Creighton Post game thread

[UCfor3]

This confuses me, though. Are we supposed to religiously believe in the metrics, or are they meaningless?

Neither. The choices aren't just everything or nothing. It's a tool but without context they can be deceiving.

 

[Waquoit]

Alex needs to play like a star for UConn to win. 3-10 with 1 rebound isn't going to cut it. I think we overestimated expected too much from him.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

This fan base is amazing.

All but maybe three or four fan bases would give their left nut, their eye teeth and their first born for what we've witnessed in the very recent past yet this season, one that all but maybe thirty or so programs would view as a quality season was evidently such an abomination that we end up with pages of posts criticizing our head coach, assistant head coach, a two time national championship team starter, a McD's All American (and soon to be NBA lottery pick) and the overall athleticism and skill of the team.

Wow. Just wow.

 

[superjohn]

You can be a good coach and a phony they are not mutually exclusive traits look at Pitino although he may be more of a liar than a phony but along the same lines. I don’t like McDermott, I grew up in CT lived in the Midwest for 20 years and hated it. They have this trait in the Midwest of appearing to be your friend to your face and then doing exactly the opposite behind your back. McDermott for me embodies many of the traits I experienced first hand living in the Midwest. I will never like him and his players actions at the end of the game showed their true colors.

If they are so pure he should have lost his job after the “off the reservation” comment. As much as I dislike StJohns and Pitino I will be rooting for them tonight. Don’t think I dislike a coach more than fake “McDermott.

Of course you can be a phony and a good coach. I think McDermott is a great guy and an excellent coach.

I like people everywhere but I've lived in the Midwest for just over 20 years now and I prefer the people out here to people on the east coast overall but I would never judge anyone based on where they're from or where they live.

My experience is the exact opposite of yours. I completely disagree with your stereotype and I don't undertand your takeaway at all with McDermott. Neal did the dunk with 1 second left as the coaches were shaking hands. Hurley and McDermott were cool with each other, they like each other. Luke had something to say, I don't know what it was and McDermott said something about how they didn't appreciate the 2 ring thing in Omaha. That was pretty clear because Neal did the same thing after the dunk. McDermott admonished Neal for the dunk and Neal apologized and gave respect to the UConn program. It's all a bunch of nothing and some of our fans sound like babies.

Hurley talks tons of crap, threatened to beat up a Creighton fan and was telling their fans he has two rings, told a ref not to turn his back on him because he's the best coach in the sport. I wouldn't stereotype eastcoasters as arrogant and fake tough guys because of Hurley's actions.

 

[Palatine]

The knee jerk reactions to wanting out of the big east are baffling.

We've been in that wilderness before it sucked.

And way more schools have failed in new conferences.

Prior two years were pretty, pretty good, it ain't broke.

The Big East is the wilderness.

 

[Kowalski]

Give me a break, Hurley threatened to knock out a fan in Omaha last season and then did his two rings routine this season. You bring that smoke and of course the coach and players are going to use it as a rallying cry.

I’m not defending Hurley. I don’t think he should be engaging with obnoxious fans. But it’s somehow a disrespectful affront to the Creighton team that he gets into it with taunting / heckling fans? No it isn’t. I don’t care if they use it as a rallying cry or not. And if yelled at Luke about it, he’s wrong.

On the other hand, everybody in the game knows you don’t do what Neal did at the end because it’s disrespectful to the other team. Hurley doesn’t do it & I’m sure coach Mac doesn’t encourage it. But Neal apologized for it, so it’s over now.

 

[Hunt for 7]

64-58 and AK missed that open 3, you could feel the team and the crowd kinda deflate with that miss

I agree Alex is the key. I went back and looked at the final 4:30 of the game.
1) 4:03 62-58 Ball bricks a three might have been fouled but they never showed any angle and -payed on.
2) 3:11 64-58 Alex misses a wide open three and you could feel how bad it was
3) 2:43 64-58 Alex gets taken to the woodshed by Green
4) 38.3 66-60 game probably over but Alex can’t box out Green on a free throw miss but you never know. But after the rebound game over.

So out of 5 pivotal plays down the stretch Alex does not show up for 4 and we lose. Pretty simple your star has to make big plays or he is not a star. Alex really has had a bad year. Never thought he was Castle or even Cam but I expected more from him this year he just did not have it in him.

 

[uconnfan68]

Yeah switching on defense only works when you have guys with good height all across the lineup so you aren't a huge disadvantage.

They weren’t switches. He was their slowest guy.

 

[Hurleyman216]

The leave the big east movement is predicated on being accepted to one of the big boy tables NOT leaving just to leave. How/why does this need to be explained?

The Big East does not deserve us. We've given it credibility, and more importantly made it $$$ way above our share. And our reward? To consistently have to battle the whistle/downright horrid calls in marquee BE games.

This is 100% spot on. UConn literally pulled the Big East out of being completely irrelevant. Yes, Nova had a couple good years with Jay Wright, but if we left the league now, what do they have left? We must account for something like 50% of the media and more than 50% of the NCAA Tourney payouts that come into the conference. I get the refs don’t like Hurley but it’s time for a re-set for next year. They either need to get rid of some of these most egregious officials or the UConn AD needs to start embarrassing the league publicly. You don’t get to use us as your cash cow while simultaneously kicking us in the teeth. That ain’t gonna cut it.

 

[giddyup]

That's crap. Johnson invites penetration. It's not his fault. He sucks at the 5. This isn't rocket science.

Correct answer AK and Liam were awful on D, and terribly inefficient on O. The net impact: losing basketball.

 

[uconnfan68]

The officials had a couple bad calls late, but the foul shot disparity was 18-4. That's right. UConn had 4 foul shots the entire game. Can that be right?

Lucky we got 4.

 

[UCTitleTown]

I still think we can do damage in the NCAA Tournament. We historically underperform in the Big East Tournament. No one remembers years later who won the Big East Tournament.

 

[J187Money]

Yeah, nah. There is obnoxious. There is rude. Then there were Creighton fans.

SJU fans were pretty bad but they directed things at me (an adult). So maybe when I calm down I’ll change my mind on rooting for SJU.

I want Creighton to lose every game they play for eternity because of who Creighton fans targeted. Nothing bad enough could happen to them. Nothing.

lol I give them a pass because they have never won anything. Just jealousy. Haters. Yawn.

Being on top of the mountain means people are going to take shots at you. Best revenge is to laugh it off and keep winning.

 

[BlueandOG]

The loss is pretty simple: our team did not play very well. Perhaps they had an emotional let down after the big game the prior evening. Perhaps they were nervous playing a team that beats us almost every time we play them. Perhaps they didn't have the legs to play late at night on back to back dates. Whatever.

I am confident they will use the time to rest and prepare for the NCAA. If we end up playing a 1, that will be an opportunity to shine. Hurley will get them ready.

 

[alphasigko]

They’re the exact same team they were in November.

Sadly THIS.....

 

[yungdowork]

I think someone needed to pull Liam aside and just tell him to be patient on offense. He obviously has so much talent, but seems like he's making the game harder for himself right now. He took 9 more shots than anyone on the team and there was quite a few that weren't great shots. I don't think there's a ton of instances where taking 20 shots with 0 assists is great offensive execution.

 

[cellocgg]

At what point does any of the blame for the poor behavior also get shared with the Creighton fans who cuss out and throw stuff at Hurley and our players when we play in Omaha

Not excusing Hurley but the Creighton fans cussing out and throwing stuff at our players and coaches shouldn't get a free pass.

Breaking news: Man pokes bear and is surprised bear attacks

 

[superjohn]

At what point does any of the blame for the poor behavior also get shared with the Creighton fans who cuss out and throw stuff at Hurley and our players when we play in Omaha

Not excusing Hurley but the Creighton fans cussing out and throwing stuff at our players and coaches shouldn't get a free pass.

Breaking news: Man pokes bear and is surprised bear attacks

What was thrown at Hurley and UConn players?

 

[cellocgg]

What was thrown at Hurley and UConn players?

They were throwing plastic bottles at our guys entering and exiting the tunnel in Omaha

Last year (after Hurley understandably, albeit stupidly, made his comment to a fan) Creighton ADs sent an email to the students telling them to knock their behavior off

 

[superjohn]

They were throwing bottles at our guys entering and exiting the tunnel in Omaha

You have any video of this? Any articles referencing this? I watched every game we played them in Omaha and never saw this. Haven't seen any video of this and haven't seen any reference to it. I saw Hurley chants, Hurley threatening to knock a fan out if he stepped over the barrier and the two rings thing.

 

[cellocgg]

You have any video of this? Any articles referencing this? I watched every game we played them in Omaha and never saw this. Haven't seen any video of this and haven't seen any reference to it. I saw Hurley chants, Hurley threatening to knock a fan out if he stepped over the barrier and the two rings thing.

I didn't see it myself but a few UConn fans on the college basketball subreddit corroborated it. Given the fact it happens pretty often in sports I'm not surprised

The email to Creighton students absolutely happened as one posted a picture of it on the same subreddit when it was sent out

 

[gsmooth]

I think someone needed to pull Liam aside and just tell him to be patient on offense. He obviously has so much talent, but seems like he's making the game harder for himself right now. He took 9 more shots than anyone on the team and there was quite a few that weren't great shots. I don't think there's a ton of instances where taking 20 shots with 0 assists is great offensive execution.

His perimeter shooting has abandoned him. Since that inferno in Omaha, he has been shooting 25% from 3. And some of these misses in the last few games are wiiiiide open looks and he isn't knocking them down.

I thought he should have pulled up and shot the 8-10 footer with just enough space between him and Kalkbrenner (shooting over Kalk when he standing in front is tough). I would rather he shoot an uncontested 8-10 footer than shoot a heavily contested shot 2-3 footer with Kalkbrenner in his face.

 

[Woodson]

You have any video of this? Any articles referencing this? I watched every game we played them in Omaha and never saw this. Haven't seen any video of this and haven't seen any reference to it. I saw Hurley chants, Hurley threatening to knock a fan out if he stepped over the barrier and the two rings thing.

Oh my gosh Hurley threatened them?? Call the police!

 

[Hankster]

Yea defense was the issue. Can’t be down 17 and expect to win. We ran plays for McNeeley because thats how we beat the drop coverage D. He has a bad shooting game. We didn’t have AK most of the game, Ball was bottled up and can’t create. So McNeeley was only one.

However Green was not to be denied last night. He scored in every possible. Het the tone.

 

[superjohn]

I didn't see it myself but a few UConn fans on the college basketball subreddit corroborated it. Given the fact it happens pretty often in sports I'm not surprised

The email to Creighton students absolutely happened as one posted a picture of it on the same subreddit when it was sent out

The letter to the students said nothing about things being thrown at Hurley and the players. It was words and gestures.