Creighton Post game thread

[UCONNFAN179]

Great class coming in atleast

Yes...highly ranked and skilled shooters, which is great, but again, the group overall is slow and unathletic. Liam was supposed to be the best shooter in his class. He was a VERY good player for us as a freshman, but he didn't strike me as an exceptional shooter. Shooting is very important, but doesn't always translate, especially in year one. Let's hope we supplement those players in this class with some starter level athletes via the portal because we definitely need that.

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

Our defense is frequently atrocious.

Our wing players haven't locked up anyone all season.

 

[Hunt for 7]

Nope, cuz Dan Hurley won't adjust from his Euro style offense. I remember seeing a you tube vid of the intricacies and sophistication of Hurley's (cuts, screens, ball movement). But it is not working with this void of shot finishers on this team.

He has actually commented on giving his players to play off script offensively, don’t just run the offense if you see an opening take it. Problem is we really don’t have many players who can play off script and create. Last year we had Cam, Tristen and Castle to some extent. But Cam and Tristen got us many baskets when the offense sets got clunky.

 

[Palatine]

Here's a metric for you.

Creighton made 13 free throws the Huskies made 2. Two for the entire game.

Creighton won the free throw contest by 11 and the game by 9.

 

[superjohn]

McDermott is sort of a phony imo. He's also not a "great" coach although everyone seems to say it. He's made 1 Elite Eight & 2 Sweet 16's in his entire coaching career (age 60) and has had some highly ranked teams that lost early....underachiever. Great coaches tend to win something, he's not making the HOF because he beats UConn.

McDermott also started the $1 beer game thing against UConn so his drunken fans could scream obscenities at UConn players & Dan Hurley for 2 hours. Then McDermott gets "offended" when Dan Hurley gives it back to drunken fan's at the end of 2 hours of constant nonsense and uses it as an excuse for his player dunking the ball with a second left when UConn had already waved the white flag.

Maybe I'm in the minority but not a McDermott fan. Pitino is a great coach, Dan Hurley is a great coach....McD not so much.

He's had Creighton #2, #3, #3, #3, #1, #2, #4, #3, #2, #2 in the Big East in 10 of his 12 seasons coaching in the league. His last 6 seasons- #7 in the country when Covid hit and they canceled the tournament, sweet 16, round of 32, elite 8, sweet 16, this season #2 Big East regular season Big East conference title game so far...

He's an excellent coach and he's 9-3 vs. Hurley since Hurley has been at UConn. It's pretty remarkable what he's done at Creighton.

 

[bendm]

We need to bring in a Tyrese Martin for next year on the wing

 

[Dogdeacon]

The tough play in this league is what prepared us for our two national championships, moron.

The knee jerk reactions to wanting out of the big east are baffling.

We've been in that wilderness before it sucked.

And way more schools have failed in new conferences.

Prior two years were pretty, pretty good, it ain't broke.

 

[Kowalski]

McDermott is sort of a phony imo. He's also not a "great" coach although everyone seems to say it. He's made 1 Elite Eight & 2 Sweet 16's in his entire coaching career (age 60) and has had some highly ranked teams that lost early....underachiever. Great coaches tend to win something, he's not making the HOF because he beats UConn.

McDermott also started the $1 beer game thing against UConn so his drunken fans could scream obscenities at UConn players & Dan Hurley for 2 hours. Then McDermott gets "offended" when Dan Hurley gives it back to drunken fan's at the end of 2 hours of constant nonsense and uses it as an excuse for his player dunking the ball with a second left when UConn had already waved the white flag.

Maybe I'm in the minority but not a McDermott fan. Pitino is a great coach, Dan Hurley is a great coach....McD not so much.

I’ve been a McDermott fan & I think he’s a good coach but for him to act like his team was offended by Hurley’s response to heckling fans is dumb. Whether or not he thinks Hurley should be engaging with fans is an entirely different issue - Bottom line is Hurley wasn’t being disrespectful in any way to the Creighton team. If he was barking at Luke for that, he was out of line.

 

[superjohn]

I’ve been a McDermott fan & I think he’s a good coach but for him to act like his team was offended by Hurley’s response to heckling fans is dumb. Whether or not he thinks Hurley should be engaging with fans is an entirely different issue - Bottom line is Hurley wasn’t being disrespectful in any way to the Creighton team. If he was barking at Luke for that, he was out of line.

Give me a break, Hurley threatened to knock out a fan in Omaha last season and then did his two rings routine this season. You bring that smoke and of course the coach and players are going to use it as a rallying cry.

 

[uh-no]

McDermott is sort of a phony imo. He's also not a "great" coach although everyone seems to say it. He's made 1 Elite Eight & 2 Sweet 16's in his entire coaching career (age 60) and has had some highly ranked teams that lost early....underachiever. Great coaches tend to win something, he's not making the HOF because he beats UConn.

McDermott also started the $1 beer game thing against UConn so his drunken fans could scream obscenities at UConn players & Dan Hurley for 2 hours. Then McDermott gets "offended" when Dan Hurley gives it back to drunken fan's at the end of 2 hours of constant nonsense and uses it as an excuse for his player dunking the ball with a second left when UConn had already waved the white flag.

Maybe I'm in the minority but not a McDermott fan. Pitino is a great coach, Dan Hurley is a great coach....McD not so much.

People cite his record....but i'm curious how he's going to do after cockbrenner finishes his 19th year of eligibility.

 

[tennmike]

We cut it to 5 with about 12 minutes to go, and I really felt Creighton would run out of gas. But we couldn't make shots.

Thought McNeeley played outside of himself, and didn't do the little things. But this team can't win with AK is off like that.

Officials are not the reason we lost, but that sequence were we had cut it to 3, and then the ball goes off Creighton in back to back sequences, yet gets the ball both times, and then increased it is inexcuseable.

Seems like there was some tension between the coaching staffs...

The officials had a couple bad calls late, but the foul shot disparity was 18-4. That's right. UConn had 4 foul shots the entire game. Can that be right?

 

[superjohn]

Wow all those great teams and the only thing he's accomplished is beating UConn...lol. Make a Final 4 once and we'll talk about "great"

Dude, nice swipe at UConn basketball.

 

[VA Blue Dog]

UCONN 2024-2025 is a slow unathletic team especially evident on defense.
After watching St. Johns and Marquette it seemed like we were in slow motion.
Quite a contrast visually. St Johns battles every play. Always looking for the double team or trap. Not afraid to over commit because they know they are quick enough to challenge the open man on the far side. This all out, every play doctrine is engrained in their minds by Pitino. In the Marquette game, after Marquette had finally made a three after 12 straight misses, when the camera went to the huddle Pitino's first comment was to blast his players "You just gave up an open three". For UCONN to win against a good team, assuming we can maintain parity at the 5, we need two of the three; Alex, Liam or Solo, to have a good game offensively.

 

[Zonepress]

Give me a break, Hurley threatened to knock out a fan in Omaha last season and then did his two rings routine this season. You bring that smoke and of course the coach and players are going to use it as a rallying cry.

You make way too much sense for this forum
Lol

 

[BugsyCT]

He's had Creighton #2, #3, #3, #3, #1, #2, #4, #3, #2, #2 in the Big East in 10 of his 12 seasons coaching in the league. His last 6 seasons- #7 in the country when Covid hit and they canceled the tournament, sweet 16, round of 32, elite 8, sweet 16, this season #2 Big East regular season Big East conference title game so far...

He's an excellent coach and he's 9-3 vs. Hurley since Hurley has been at UConn. It's pretty remarkable what he's done at Creighton.

Actually surprised he hasn't jumped to a P4 school - he must like what he has at Creighton.

Would be shocked if they beat St John's tonight at MSG though - Johnnies look like a defensive juggernaut.

 

[UCfor3]

When UConn screws around running down the shot clock, what ends up happening is one of the centers ends up with the ball out near the 3 pt line with 7 seconds left and panicking to find somebody to pass to and, in turn, they panic to get off a shot. UConn had THREE shot clock violations of this nature last evening. Not good.This team is too lacking in athleticism.

That's a seperate issue completely than I was responding to but yeah we stink at the end of the shot clock. No shot creators will do that. Not sure just coming down and launching a shot is an offensive system or philosophy that will help. The only remedy for what we have going on unfortuately will take place in the offseason with the portal.

 

[Gutter King]

The knee jerk reactions to wanting out of the big east are baffling.

We've been in that wilderness before it sucked.

And way more schools have failed in new conferences.

Prior two years were pretty, pretty good, it ain't broke.

The leave the big east movement is predicated on being accepted to one of the big boy tables NOT leaving just to leave. How/why does this need to be explained?

The Big East does not deserve us. We've given it credibility, and more importantly made it $$$ way above our share. And our reward? To consistently have to battle the whistle/downright horrid calls in marquee BE games.

 

[todbo]

Not the reason we lost, but Kalk only getting called for 1 foul with all the contact he made with our guys driving in the lane for layups sums up the BE refereeing issues nicely.

Yup. We were 2 for 4 from the free throw line. Creighton was 13 for18. The Creighton D did a good job of keeping us outside, too.

 

[Scrutineer]

He's had Creighton #2, #3, #3, #3, #1, #2, #4, #3, #2, #2 in the Big East in 10 of his 12 seasons coaching in the league. His last 6 seasons- #7 in the country when Covid hit and they canceled the tournament, sweet 16, round of 32, elite 8, sweet 16, this season #2 Big East regular season Big East conference title game so far...

He's an excellent coach and he's 9-3 vs. Hurley since Hurley has been at UConn. It's pretty remarkable what he's done at Creighton.

And he's done it over the best coach in the sport in the last few years..........

 

[JeffConn]

This has been one of the most baffling parts of this season for me. After watching what Steph turned into defensively by the end of last season, and frankly how much attention he got for said defense, I was sure Ball, Stewart and Ross spent the offseason competing to be that guy and they would all be dogs out there. It was clear pretty early that that wasn’t the case

Post game impression and some analytical differences from last year:
The defense suffered from losses of Castle and Clingan who were both elite college defensive players. Last year, Castle consistently shut down either the best opposing point guard or shooting guard. As someone previously noted, Clingan had such a large physical presence and was there to intimidate and erase when our outside defenders were beaten off the dribble. McNeeley and Ball consistently show high level offensive play, but as newer starters, sometimes their defensive play gets taken advantage of by opposing teams. Regarding our defensive schemes, besides the often-mentioned inadequacies of the high hedge, our defensive switching has allowed advantages to opposing teams. Last night, Ball, at 6'3" was continually left guarding Creighton's 6'8" Green to get isolated and backed down near the basket for an easy Creighton score. This year, we don't have someone as fearless as Cam and a ball handler that's as emotionally steady as Tristen; they were long-term college starters who helped last year's team maintain consistent, mental playing toughness; on-court decision-making was not as optimal as last year. Diarra and Johnson are warriers and they were elite depth providers as back-ups last year. Alex is a terrific all-round starting player and star; he does all the little things providing strong leadership that maintain team cohesion and may sometimes be unnoticed, but he was not a consistent scoring headliner offensively this year. Our sophomores are excellent players, but they started the year with limited playing experience to build on and they sometimes played like younger players. Hopefully they stay here to play next year so UConn benefits from their experience. We lost 4 starters from last year that were NBA eligible players; their starting replacements along with Alex each had to take on new roles this year. It's worth repeating that because of continuous annual roster changes in the current college game, as well as other things, It's really, really difficult to finish at the absolute top every year. I am thankful for this year's players winning efforts. You continue to make UConn Nation proud!

 

[caw]

After the past few days I think I'm actively rooting against SJU and Creighton in the NCAAT just because their fans were horrendous at the Garden. MU fans were pretty chill. X fans were a mixed bag.

 

[UCfor3]

McDermott is sort of a phony imo. He's also not a "great" coach although everyone seems to say it. He's made 1 Elite Eight & 2 Sweet 16's in his entire coaching career (age 60) and has had some highly ranked teams that lost early....underachiever. Great coaches tend to win something, he's not making the HOF because he beats UConn.

McDermott also started the $1 beer game thing against UConn so his drunken fans could scream obscenities at UConn players & Dan Hurley for 2 hours. Then McDermott gets "offended" when Dan Hurley gives it back to drunken fan's at the end of 2 hours of constant nonsense and uses it as an excuse for his player dunking the ball with a second left when UConn had already waved the white flag.

Maybe I'm in the minority but not a McDermott fan. Pitino is a great coach, Dan Hurley is a great coach....McD not so much.

I think he's a solid coach. As far as a person....I don't know him personally so I won't say he is a jerk but I also won't say he is a class act or a good guy. 90% of this board said Ed Cooley was a great guy and a class act. Public persona is different than actually knowing someone. Joe Paterno had one of the best reputations going. Not comparing the two. Just saying we just don't know these people. As far as last night, he did make some qualifiers I didn't care for as far as Neal's dunk. He said the loss at Creighton "was emotional"(as if losing at Gampel wasn't emotional for us). Heaven forbid we win one game at their building and they are so traumatized that they have to dunk and show bad sportsmanship. He also was in an argument with Luke about a 2 rings comment apparently??? He said he didn't like what Neal did but what else is he going to say with a mic in his face. I guess I should take him at his word but he may have privately enjoyed it. Who knows. He certainly revealed he and the team had some underlying animosity about our last game for sure. Kalk, Ashworth and Neal are all seniors. They have work to do this offseason as well.

 

[80shusky]

UConn played a terrible first half. Like epically bad. Creighton did whatever they wanted to do offensively. It's not the conference. It's not the refs. It's not the coaching. They don't have the horses this year. There's no magic to this.

 

[buddy]

Actually surprised he hasn't jumped to a P4 school - he must like what he has at Creighton.

Would be shocked if they beat St John's tonight at MSG though - Johnnies look like a defensive juggernaut.

Tonight the rigging will be in St John's favor. The big center for St John's will eat up Kalk, and Ashworth will be put to rest.

 

[UCfor3]

This confuses me, though. Are we supposed to religiously believe in the metrics, or are they meaningless?

Neither. The choices aren't just everything or nothing. It's a tool but without context they can be deceiving.