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AntG168 said:
St Mary’s plays in the WCC. Aiden Mahaney played competent defense in that conference. Go to bed.
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Aiden Mahaney and defense just two things that don't go together.
 
Hunt for 7 said:
Well we have three burger boys coming in. Can’t comment on current players but it would seem Hurley will be able to do his portal work by the end of next weekend. Maybe that means more success in roster construction.

I mean with who we have coming in and who we probably have staying we need 6’4”to 6’7” athletes who can handle the ball create their own shots and get to the basket. The problem is every other school is looking for the same thing.

I would also take a 6’ pg. But one that is quick/fast can get in the lane at will and he must be a good shooter. Those players are out there. That type player would have made such a difference with this team. I love Diarra but 8 of first 10 team point was the definition of fools gold. That was the first bad sign of the game.
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Diarra is playing on one leg. He can't get by anyone and is scared to take shots.
 
McDermott: "A 56 possession game with UConn tells you they're not scoring on their first option, and that we're making them go to multiple things...AND THEN WE THOUGHT WE HAD SOME MISMATCH OPPORTUNITIES WITH JASEN IN THE POST..."

I hate hearing that, but it's true- especially the second part, that's a flaw that's tough to overcome as we can only work with the pieces we have.
 
Come on man st Mary plays in the wcc the best team they play all year in Gonzaga.

Kimani is a great coach he just didn’t have the players this year. You can be the greatest coach in the world but if your player don’t learn from their mistakes or just are naturally not able to do things coaching doesn’t matter. Defense is as much about effort and attitude as it is about skill. If your players do t have it in them to want to be great defenders then you can’t scheme them into it.

Steph last year was not by his own admission great defensive player when he came to UConn but by the end of his time here was elite. Why because he wanted to be a great defender.
 
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He deserves a spot in the Ring of Honor based solely on this

HASS BE CREIGHTON END 25.jpg


I can't remember being more proud of a UConn player than I was in this moment.

Hass's eyes locked on, left was LOADED. Lord help me for wishing he let one off.
 
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Scottobot said:
For all the people who want to crucify me over my comments on Kimani Young being a bad defensive coach, explain why St Mary’s is the 8th best defense on Ken Pom and UConn is 93 when UConn has an order of magnitude better player. they have faster players and more athletic players.
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We get it you're right. Everyone else is wrong.
 
Hunt for 7 said:
Well we have three burger boys coming in. Can’t comment on current players but it would seem Hurley will be able to do his portal work by the end of next weekend. Maybe that means more success in roster construction.

I mean with who we have coming in and who we probably have staying we need 6’4”to 6’7” athletes who can handle the ball create their own shots and get to the basket. The problem is every other school is looking for the same thing.

I would also take a 6’ pg. But one that is quick/fast can get in the lane at will and he must be a good shooter. Those players are out there. That type player would have made such a difference with this team. I love Diarra but 8 of first 10 team point was the definition of fools gold. That was the first bad sign of the game.
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We don't want a 6 foot point guard. That would make us incredibly small with Solo and Braylon looking like starters.
 
NCHusky91 said:
Down 4 they had 3 empty trips in a row. That could have overcome the awful OOB calls if they converted 1 or 2.
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Especially the shot clock violation because the UConn players were standing around trying to figure out who should make the proper cuts, SMH. That one drew my ire.
I was yelling, "move!" at the TV
 
Horatio said:
Coach Hurley was loyal to our “Six Man of the Year”, backup point guard and our backup center.He made them starters after they contributed to the winning of back 2 back championships. That move made the bench weaker and created a drop off in our starting 5. Given what Samson went through in the beginning of his career and what the Diarra brothers mean to the program, I think our Coach did an honorable thing that most coaches ( Pitino, etc.) wouldn’t even consider. That’s what happened this season. Our Coach was loyal.
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That isn't why we weren't more sucessful. Reed while good is inconsistent and who was going to play PG on this year's team besides Diarra? He just missed on Mahaney and on our Sophomores picking up their game.
 
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superjohn said:
We don't want a 6 foot point guard. That would make us incredibly small with Solo and Braylon looking like starters.
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I guess he just wants someone who can penetrate like Kemba, Boaright and lesser extent Shabazz who can put pressure on the other team to collapse more. We didn't have that this year.
 
Boost'ED said:
We're not going to win too many games if both Liam and Alex shoot that poorly.

Combined: 9 - 30 and 0 - 8 from three.

Considering the above, we made the game compelling.
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yep : You can try as hard as you want but if you cant make shots
and your not going to the line you aren’t coming back
Its about Stops and Pops
We actually got enough stops to make a tossup at the end but couldn’t knock anything down.
 
Scottobot said:
For all the people who want to crucify me over my comments on Kimani Young being a bad defensive coach, explain why St Mary’s is the 8th best defense on Ken Pom and UConn is 93 when UConn has an order of magnitude better player. they have faster players and more athletic players.
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OMGosh! Did he somehow completely forget how to coach after two impressive NC runs where their D was crushing?!?!

Just go away! Since the players showed the ability to defend in the second half, they should have been able to execute solid D in the first, but the technique and effort just weren't there. They've been defending better lately, but they're just not a very good defensive team.
 
Two big atletic tall guards are definitely needed for next year's team with one of them being a PG. If we can't get that I do agree with another poster we need a dynamic 6'0" guard in the Mark Sears mold and not someone like Mahaney or Nowell.
 
Horatio said:
Coach Hurley was loyal to our “Six Man of the Year”, backup point guard and our backup center.He made them starters after they contributed to the winning of back 2 back championships. That move made the bench weaker and created a drop off in our starting 5. Given what Samson went through in the beginning of his career and what the Diarra brothers mean to the program, I think our Coach did an honorable thing that most coaches ( Pitino, etc.) wouldn’t even consider. That’s what happened this season. Our Coach was loyal.
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Once it became clear that McDermott would be going all-in on the Andre Jackson perimeter defensive strategy against SJ, it should have been a steady diet of Reed. He at least presents the threat of a serviceable dribble drive (versus an opposing big) and Kalk couldn't do anything against him in the post.
 
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TouchdownHusky said:
Try some video study Hurley. That team cannot run that offense. They don't have a Newton or Spencer to create a shot at the last second. Just get the ball down court and launch a shot or attack the hoop. Feed anyone that seems hot. Maybe he goes on a tear. Hurley's offense was cute when he had the players, can't run it with these skilled challenged players.
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Just get down the court and launch a shot? That's not an offense.
 
People are mentioning who was it the game and who was out when we went on our run. Sadly i think the biggest factor was Creighton went on a stretch where they weren't hitting anything. We also had empty pocessions in that stretch. But we scored enough to get it to 3..This is one reason I think the +/- stat is vastly overrated. You can be on the floor where the opposing team is clanking wide open shots and your +/- goes up with no doing of your own.
 
Mister P said:
We ended up making something out of nothing. Not worth to pick apart all of the negatives.
Time for the them to pack up, forget about the loss and get prepared for tournament play. It’s win or go home time.

Happy to see Diarra standup to Neal.
Let the fire continue to the next game and beyond.
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Reed. Cleared the middle and we pressed. That was the secret sauce in the 2nd. We will flourish next week just to spite the officiating in our conference. Also consider Aidan has emerged with the overly physical play. We are going to be more battle tested than the last two years. We have more to prove and theirs is a part that thinks we want nattys over conferences. A little possum? Our defense was elite in both second halves. ELITE!!!! Cut the holds pushes and hard bumps and we are back at 80 pts a game. Let’s take whoever comes our way. Reed IS the key. There are like 2 other 5s like him in the league and they aren’t in our system. He’s a cheat code.
 
Not many teams can play this poorly and still win. But how is it possible that this team -- with all of its flaws -- can play this poorly and still make it interesting late (and have a few bad calls make it less interesting).

They don't deserve it, but I am not sure we give this team enough credit at times.
 
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superjohn said:
I think his unbelievable success in back to back seasons had him believing he could turn anyone into what he wants them to be. In a way that massive back to back success led to this flawed roster.

I'm a bit worried about this freshman class despite 3 burger boys.
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Just curious why you are worried about this Freshman group. Are you worried they may be asked to play too much of a role or do you think they are not as good a group as most think?
 
superjohn said:
People on this board are pretty damn tough on Solo. He averaged 16 ppg, 5 rebs, 2 assists this Big East season.
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It’s not his offense that people are being hard on him for most of the time it’s his lack of defense at times
 
We need some Alpha dogs on this team. We had too many complimentary players. I want to see some Spencer, Castle, and even Clingans coming in. I know easier said than done but we need some difference makers. I would even take a Tristen Newton on a team like this.
 
sdglast said:
Just curious why you are worried about this Freshman group. Are you worried they may be asked to play too much of a role or do you think they are not as good a group as most think?
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They aren't very athletic or with great defensive ability which are the weakest points of this years team. Only Mullins has the atlhetic ability but people are worried he is too slight.
 
superjohn said:
People on this board are pretty damn tough on Solo. He averaged 16 ppg, 5 rebs, 2 assists this Big East season.
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I thought tonight his pull-up game was very good. If he builds that into his game moving forward, he will be that much tougher to defend. He can shoot and should be a better finisher near the rim. Like Stewart, he needs to add more muscle to his frame and be able to take contact better. However, I agree he has been pretty damn good for really his first year of playing. I expect an even better year next year.
 
superjohn said:
People on this board are pretty damn tough on Solo. He averaged 16 ppg, 5 rebs, 2 assists this Big East season.
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And he doesn't play a lick of defense and can't drive that well. He is a great shooter but definitely has warts in his game.
 
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