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sportsart said:
Tim Polask from ND St. Without even looking him up, I know his team can score a lot and if he can recruit talent to North Dakota I'm guessing he can sell ice to an Eskimo.
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Looking over NDST's roster, 75 players came from MN/ND/WI.

Maybe the draw out there is the opportunity to play indoors...
 
SonsOfNutmeg said:
Let's go get this kid!!!
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Seems to have a nice arm and can break tackles in open field. OTOH, in pretty much every sequence, the defense is horrendous.

But probably better than Williams.
 
sportsart said:
Tim Polask from ND St. Without even looking him up, I know his team can score a lot and if he can recruit talent to North Dakota I'm guessing he can sell ice to an Eskimo.
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Ever been to Fargo? That's exactly what he does. ;)

I kid of course. NDSU plays their home games in the 70 degree FargoDome.
 
SonsOfNutmeg said:
Ok, now that we've all come to grips that Randy Friggin' Edsall is coming back to lead our boys back into glory, who do we think he'll bring in as OC? Wondering who we could potentially target given money and given our issues right now (conference, geography, instability, recruiting problems, post-Diaco stuff...) I know FAU (Lane Kiffin's new gig) just hired Art Briles kid- Kendal Briles who was OC at Baylor. Kinda crazy, would love to see Randy bring in a higher profile up and coming OC who will develop these kids and take shots down the field. Here's a few options I came up with...

  • Donnie Kirkpatrick- James Madison OC (FCS)
  • Tim Polask- North Dakota State OC (FCS)
  • Kirk Ciarrocca- Western Michigan OC
  • Frank Ponce (or) Shawn Clark- App. State Co-OC's
  • Kenny Endenfield- Troy OC
  • Tyson Helton- Western Kentucky OC
  • Brian Wright- Toledo OC
  • Frank Scelfo- Louisiana Tech OC

Other guys in Edsall's past...
  • Gary Crowton- Stephen F. Austin OC (FCS)- was on Maryland staff under Edsall (2011)
  • Mike Locksley- Alabama Offensive Analyst- was on Maryland staff under Edsall as OC (2012-2015)
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This is quite a list but my question is:
Do you know for a fact that these guys were responsible for the success of these teams offenses or maybe it was the HC that was really calling the plays?
 
If Orlovsky choose to retire from the least demanding job in Professional football, while making a virtual Brinks truckload of money, then I would welcome him as an offensive assistant. QB coach at best for the first year or two, not Offensive Coordinator just yet. However, when the team is working on shotgun plays out of their own end zone, Danny O is the last guy I want in the QB's ear. ;)



Which henceforth should be referred to as a Kessler:

 
gtcam said:
This is quite a list but my question is:
Do you know for a fact that these guys were responsible for the success of these teams offenses or maybe it was the HC that was really calling the plays?
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No, just ideas based on offensive success of each school.
 
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Papadukes said:
Yes Dan O for QB coach I hope and I mean hope Randy lets an OC let er rip
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Playing in the NFL doesn't translate into bring a good coach. It would be a popular move but risky as you want a proven developer of talent at that position
 
UCFBalum1986 said:
Playing in the NFL doesn't translate into bring a good coach. It would be a popular move but risky as you want a proven developer of talent at that position
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Which is why it makes sense to bring DanO in in another coaching capacity that would also allow him to learn how to be a true QB coach behind the main guy. Keeps those UCONN ties in place from playing career to cosching.
 
UCFBalum1986 said:
Playing in the NFL doesn't translate into bring a good coach. It would be a popular move but risky as you want a proven developer of talent at that position
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While I agree with this premise, I think it would be great to have Dan O on staff. Give him a chance to show what he can do. He has had a good mix of clipboard and playing time, which I see as more conducive to learning to teach than playing alone does.
 
UCFBalum1986 said:
Playing in the NFL doesn't translate into bring a good coach. It would be a popular move but risky as you want a proven developer of talent at that position
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Well that's good, because since Dan was drafted in the Spring of 2005 he's played in 27 total games. That means while he is technically an NFL player, he's worn a headset and held a clipboard for well over 86% of the games his teams have played since graduation. That indicates more of a coach, who happens to be able to throw the ball 40 yards to me.
 
Husky25 said:
Well that's good, because since Dan was drafted in the Spring of 2005 he's played in 27 total games. That means while he is technically an NFL player, he's worn a headset and held a clipboard for well over 86% of the games his teams have played since graduation. That indicates more of a coach, who happens to be able to throw the ball 40 yards to me.
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And why do teams keep signing him to be the back up? ...Because he has demonstrated the ability to learn new offenses repeatedly which is a cerebral task.
 
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Exit 4 said:
And why do teams keep signing him to be the back up? ...Because he has demonstrated the ability to learn new offenses repeatedly which is a cerebral task.
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To a point, yes, but if you look just a bit deeper, Jim Caldwell and Jim Bob Cooter must be comfortable with him as well. All 3 were in Indy and now with Detroit.

Dan will be a 34 year free agent next year and while I could see him reupping behind Matthews (provided Caldwell doesn't get the ax), he really doesn't have to put on another set of pads in his life. He's made just shy of $10 mil on NFL salary alone and has an estimated net worth of $2.4 Mil according to some sources. He's been in the League for 12 years and is fully vested in the NFLPA pension. Also because he's started the equivalent of less than a full season, the dude is presumably going to live long past the NFL norm...with a fully functioning brain and body intact.

Considering his recent Twitter activity, it would not be a shock to see him in Storrs within a few years.
 
Mike Locksley, even sans his son, would be my pick. Would likely take $500K/yr money to get him here though. I hope Edsall's "low" salary means more money is freed up to fill a complete, talented staff. $500K/yr for OC and DC and then a few good position coaches.
 
Dooley said:
Mike Locksley, even sans his son, would be my pick. Would likely take $500K/yr money to get him here though. I hope Edsall's "low" salary means more money is freed up to fill a complete, talented staff. $500K/yr for OC and DC and then a few good position coaches.
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Can someone please explain what the love fest over Locksley is all about? He was a miserable HC and his offenses as OC have been overwhelmingly bad-mediocre
 
Exit 4 said:
Or not - just left Texas for a community college in AZ. His high school tape looks alot like Donovan Williams to me.

Former Gilman quarterback Kai Locksley transferring from Texas after season

Breaking: Charlie Strong Confirms Transfer For Former 4-Star Quarterback

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I don't believe Williams was a highly ranked recruit. 2 or 3 * guy at best.

I would take Locksley and his son in a heartbeat.
Locksley would be a good recruiter in a key region such as Maryland and the mid-Atlantic.

I think 500K would absolutely do it if not a bit less like $400K.

I would think that, at this very early stage, he is the leader in the clubhouse for the OC position.

However, I do also agree with those here who like taking a young JMU coordinator and grooming him for future. JMU offense has certainly been exciting and powerful.
 
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JMick said:
Can someone please explain what the love fest over Locksley is all about? He was a miserable HC and his offenses as OC have been overwhelmingly bad-mediocre
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1. OUTSTANDING recruiter. Was able to get 5-star recruits to IL and MD (most notably, Stephon Diggs). Great ties to DC area which is not too far out of the surface map that we should recruit. There's a reason why Kiffin wanted him at FAU and Bama hired him as part of their staff.

2. I could not care less about his HC record. We already have a HC - Randy Edsall. His offenses offer diversity - he can run spread or pro style. Right now, we are better suited for pro style. Over time with recruiting classes and transfers, we can sprinkle in some more spread tempo.

3. Might even give us a shot at getting his son to come play here: a 4-star rated QB. It's a long shot but a shot.
 
This I will say about RE, he had great assistants when he was here. All of them have gone on to better things. Nothing has changed that. RE will again have great assistants. If it's Losksley then it's great. But I have no doubt RE is a better coach now than when he left.

"He'll tell you himself, we didn't always see eye to eye," former UConn running back Andre Dixon said. "But we put our differences aside and we're good friends now. We both have grown a lot. The person he is now, I think they're going to get an even better coach than we had at UConn, to be honest. He's a little more understanding."
 
warbler13 said:
This I will say about RE, he had great assistants when he was here. All of them have gone on to better things. Nothing has changed that. RE will again have great assistants. If it's Losksley then it's great. But I have no doubt RE is a better coach now than when he left.

"He'll tell you himself, we didn't always see eye to eye," former UConn running back Andre Dixon said. "But we put our differences aside and we're good friends now. We both have grown a lot. The person he is now, I think they're going to get an even better coach than we had at UConn, to be honest. He's a little more understanding."
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Nobody should question Edsall's ability to find talented coaches and under-recruited players. Everyone's top two choices for head coach - Joe Moorhead and Todd Orlando - both Edsall hires here.
 
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FASTEDDY said:
I don't believe Williams was a highly ranked recruit. 2 or 3 * guy at best.

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I am familiar with D William's star ranking. My point is, watch both their videos and tell me if you see a difference. I don't. He tosses long bombs to wide open kids (I want to see timing throws and stuff with more zip) and can get yards on the ground shredding really bad defenses. His star ranking may have something to do with this family name.
 
businesslawyer said:
The right OC is way too important here to bring Locksley in as a recruiter and call him the OC. If Edsall can work with he guy (and who knows) I am fine having him on the staff assuming the Administration is willing to recognize what that will mean. But not as OC.
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Yea, not enamored with his results as sole OC, but also don't think he would come here unless he had the OC title. Maybe Co-OC/recruiting coordinator paired with a great tactical offensive mind? I think his recruiting prowess would be worth the title.
 
HobokenHusky said:
Yea, not enamored with his results as sole OC, but also don't think he would come here unless he had the OC title. Maybe Co-OC/recruiting coordinator paired with a great tactical offensive mind? I think his recruiting prowess would be worth the title.
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There was a point where the D was shared between Orlando, as DC, and Hank Hughes, as Associate Head Coach. Orlando felt Hughes had too much power and left. Not the right result for us.

You could call him Associate Head Coach and pay him accordingly. But he can't be in charge of our offense.

But I'd guess this is moot because having him at Maryland did not help the program become successful (not saying it was Locksey's fault).
 
I don't care what title he has as long as he comes here and recruits for us. Associate HC would be fine by me too. Pay him $500K/yr to be in charge of recruiting and painting the walls at the Shenk!
 
HobokenHusky said:
Yea, not enamored with his results as sole OC, but also don't think he would come here unless he had the OC title. Maybe Co-OC/recruiting coordinator paired with a great tactical offensive mind? I think his recruiting prowess would be worth the title.
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He's a terrible offensive coordinator. If he became the OC I'd rather have Diaco as HC with an unknown OC. That's how little I think of Locksley.
 
JMick said:
He's a terrible offensive coordinator. If he became the OC I'd rather have Diaco as HC with an unknown OC. That's how little I think of Locksley.
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If he learned a few tricks hanging out in Alabama with Saban, and Edsall learned a few too hanging out with the Detroit Lions, that's a chance I take.....
 
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