Cooper Flagg Commits to Duke

[UConnTrumbull]

Duke is the perfect place for him. He’ll play iso ball. Never have to pass. Score 20+ ppg. Go out in Round of 32. Done by St. patty’s day.

 

[Palatine]

But he has always dreamed of playing for Duke! I thought he was smart. But he is just unoriginal.

The Duke he dreamed of play for, no longer exists.

 

[husky429]

Duke is the perfect place for him. He’ll play iso ball. Never have to pass. Score 20+ ppg. Go out in Round of 32. Done by St. patty’s day.

I know we want to crap all over him because he didn't commit here, but he's actually a team-first player. Much, much moreso than most top draft picks. His best qualities are defense and passing.

 

[Hunt for 7]

I know we want to crap all over him because he didn't commit here, but he's actually a team-first player. Much, much moreso than most top draft picks. His best qualities are defense and passing.

Agree on all points. You are correct the only reason we are throwing any shade his way is because he did not pick us. Then your points about his playing skills and make up are all spot on. And because of that he would have fit better with our program. The problem with Duke moving forward as I see it, Scheyer is just not enough of an alpha leader to get all those 5* to play together. Even Coach K had his issues with that challenge. So that is going to create IMO unneeded pressures on CF for the one year he is there. Dook better hope he brings them another Chip because he is the only player I have seen recently that has enough of all the qualities you mention to help bring a team together when the coach is not capable of doing it. If Scheyer does not win with CF he will not be back, the boosters will circle the wagons. He could have honed his skills so much better playing in a culture that maximizes those skills. But of course everything about my analysis is biased and I get that reality.

 

[REB1094]

From Duke's perspective - Best case scenario, they figure it out as the season goes on and Cooper joins a team with newly found championship aspirations next year

Worst case scenario, Duke stumbles through this season and Cooper gets a chance to be the hero that turns the ship around

I guarantee Cooper won't give his decision any second thoughts, even if Duke collapses and finishes .500

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Duke is just another program with K gone. Sure they are a good academic program and have a rich alumni base that can pay more than most in NIL, but so can Northwestern and Vandy and Stanford. Duke's "blue blood" status is going to fade quickly.

 

[HooperScooper]

Duke is just another program with K gone. Sure they are a good academic program and have a rich alumni base that can pay more than most in NIL, but so can Northwestern and Vandy and Stanford. Duke's "blue blood" status is going to fade quickly.

I don't agree with you on Duke. If they fire Scheyer because he ruins the program then they'll be able to get a really good coach and then they'll be back. Coach K isn't the only coach in the world who can win at Duke. As we've seen at UConn with Calhoun.

 

[87Xfer]

"Duke's blue blood status is going to fade quickly". LOL

 

[uconngb]

"Duke's blue blood status is going to fade quickly". LOL

Another genius take by that guy

 

[John]

I don't agree with you on Duke. If they fire Scheyer because he ruins the program then they'll be able to get a really good coach and then they'll be back. Coach K isn't the only coach in the world who can win at Duke. As we've seen at UConn with Calhoun.

They have the financial flexibility to get rid of Scheyer without embarrassing antics AND turn around and pay a premium to hire another coach.

 

[ctchamps]

From Duke's perspective - Best case scenario, they figure it out as the season goes on and Cooper joins a team with newly found championship aspirations next year

Worst case scenario, Duke stumbles through this season and Cooper gets a chance to be the hero that turns the ship around

I guarantee Cooper won't give his decision any second thoughts, even if Duke collapses and finishes .500

If Cooper was sincere in his statements about UConn than I could see him change his mind and come here. If there is enough evidence that Scheyer is not a good coach Cooper may not want to play his one college year in a negative environment.

Anyways hope Duke crashes and burns with or without the Cooper sweepstakes. Added bonus is watching ESPN"s ratings crash and burn as well.

 

[ctchamps]

I don't agree with you on Duke. If they fire Scheyer because he ruins the program then they'll be able to get a really good coach and then they'll be back. Coach K isn't the only coach in the world who can win at Duke. As we've seen at UConn with Calhoun.

Or they can end up like Georgetown. It will be an interesting to see what happens to Nova and Duke in the future. Heck it will be interesting to see if Kentucky and UNC someday end up like Indiana and Missouri. The only constant we have in life is there is no constant.

 

[mauconnfan]

They have the financial flexibility to get rid of Scheyer without embarrassing antics AND turn around and pay a premium to hire another coach.

Yup their next coach would be a Billy Donovan or alike and they’d be fine. I mean I don’t care for anyone that coaches Duke at any point, but they’re giving Scheyer a better chance to prove himself than the Boneyard would.

 

[JohnnyJr]

They have the financial flexibility to get rid of Scheyer without embarrassing antics AND turn around and pay a premium to hire another coach.

They’d have to pay Scheyer a lot of money they just gave him a big extension. Yea they could do it but that extension would look stupid. They wouldn’t fire him after this year with the class they have coming in

 

[WhereistheDove?]

They have the financial flexibility to get rid of Scheyer without embarrassing antics AND turn around and pay a premium to hire another coach.

They’re not firing Scheyer with that recruiting class coming in next year.

 

[SubbaBub]

Duke is a premier Nike school, same as us. They have a lot invested in the brand. If it came down which NIke school they were going to steer him too (via NIL), it was going to be Duke. They are in trouble and need the help.

 

[87Xfer]

Now Dook needs help via NIL. These are some awesome narratives you guys come up with.

 

[Palatine]

The loss of Dick Vitale is a huge blow. Maybe more than the loss of K. Vitale used to turn every college basketball contest into a Duke infomercial even if it wasn't a Duke game. Vitale, and ESPN to a lesser extent, constantly raved about Coach K, Duke players and the Duke fans non-stop. He was a one man hype machine and he held the biggest megaphone in the sport. The Duke that Flagg dreamed about was a media creation that no longer exists.

Of course, there will be a drop off. How big a drop off remains to be seen.

 

[The Viking]

He probably should have been honest and said he picked Duke because they were the school he rooted for growing up.
When it’s Hurley vs scheyer and you say that it was Scheyer and his staff that helped drive you to the decision and what they would demand from you and they would hold you accountable and all that jazz.
Well it looked silly then and it looks even sillier now.
Duke won’t fire him but I’m sure there are a few people up there who think they just gave a massive extension to someone a lot more like Calipari than Hurley.

 

[HooperScooper]

Or they can end up like Georgetown. It will be an interesting to see what happens to Nova and Duke in the future. Heck it will be interesting to see if Kentucky and UNC someday end up like Indiana and Missouri. The only constant we have in life is there is no constant.

Could happen. You never know. But would you bet on any of that happening for an extended period of time like Indiana and Georgetown have gone through? I wouldn't.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Could happen. You never know. But would you bet on any of that? I wouldn't.

I would absolutely bet that the future of college sports will be very different from the past. NIL, the Transfer Portal, and Streaming have changed and will continue to change the sport dramatically.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Another genius take by that guy

Do you have any of your own takes, or is your schtick to just insult other posters? I went searching through your history, and I can't find any actual insight or thoughts on anything. Just insults.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

The loss of Dick Vitale is a huge blow. Maybe more than the loss of K. Vitale used to turn every college basketball contest into a Duke infomercial even if it wasn't a Duke game. Vitale, and ESPN to a lesser extent, constantly raved about Coach K, Duke players and the Duke fans non-stop. He was a one man hype machine and he held the biggest megaphone in the sport. The Duke that Flagg dreamed about was a media creation that no longer exists.

Of course, there will be a drop off. How big a drop off remains to be seen.

Besides saying that “I’m finna do __” means “I am finally about to do __” this idea that Vitale meant more to Dukes success than K is my favorite take of yours.

 

[Chin Diesel]

The Duke he dreamed of play for, no longer exists.

The child is grown
The dream is gone