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contract Incentive for 1,000 APR

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Tenspro2002 said:
The only problem is it fuels the narrative that the APR is a legitimate measure and that we're apologetic for having run afoul of it. Why do we give people like Emmert credence? Giving KO his first contract because of first-semester grades in 2012 was the same way.
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That’s another obvious point.

We spent years pointing out it’s a sham and then kowtowed to it multiple times.
 
whaler11 said:
Seriously. You are smart.

There is a ocean sized gulf between meeting the standard and 1000.
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Not really. You need a 4 year average score of 930 to stay eligible. If each player can earn 4 points and you have 13 scholarship players it only takes losing 4 points to knock your score down to 923. Two kids transferring while in bad academic standing kills the score

whaler11 said:
Rewarding him for hitting 1000 does exactly what Chief says.

Pay him for staying eligible - don’t pay him for maxing out a stupid metric that gives him a reason not to push for some kids with questionable academics.

If you think you can win with a bunch of bookworms you can’t. If you are so blind to this reality go root for Trinity and stop rooting to destroy this basketball program.
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What would the punishment be? You can't go to class anymore? If they needed to expel a player they could petition the NCAA for an adjustment.

Kentucky regularly gets scores of 1000 and they don't have a bunch of book worms. It's a score that is easily gamed, and there isn't any reason not to game it.
 
Is Chief seriously still arguing that the Mike Noyes scholarship, awarded in August/September, could have instead been given to someone who could’ve contributed on the court meaningfully that year?

Why do any of you continue to give him the time of day?
 
Penfield said:
Not really. You need a 4 year average score of 930 to stay eligible. If each player can earn 4 points and you have 13 scholarship players it only takes losing 4 points to knock your score down to 923. Two kids transferring while in bad academic standing kills the score



What would the punishment be? You can't go to class anymore? If they needed to expel a player they could petition the NCAA for an adjustment.

Kentucky regularly gets scores of 1000 and they don't have a bunch of book worms. It's a score that is easily gamed, and there isn't any reason not to game it.
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I fully support gaming it.

That’s the point, UConn doesn’t. Kentucky games it because they don’t treat the kids as students.

If UConn is going to apply the academic standards of Kentucky or UNC it means nothing to offer the incentive.

They haven’t. So it shouldn’t be a goal.

They need to win, win fast and win pretty big. There shouldn’t be a competing priority around some dopey metric that measures nothing.
 
Stainmaster said:
Is Chief seriously still arguing that the Mike Noyes scholarship, awarded in August/September, could have instead been given to someone who could’ve contributed on the court meaningfully that year?

Why do any of you continue to give him the time of day?
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This is a message board and people clearly like playing characters. This is the only reason I've been able to come up with considering the Drummond story...
 
13 guys in a basketball program doesn't define a university of tens of thousands of students.

Game the metric, get the appropriate scores, and move on.

I don't think Hurley is ultimately going to be too beholden by this, but by the same time it's just another tone-deaf stipulation set forth by the admin.
 
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Just about every school has figured out how to keep their major sports programs out of trouble on this metric. They are rewarding him for perfect scores, because it will keep the team eligible. There's nothing wrong with that. It is a joke, they know it is a joke, and they are going to reward him for continuing to make a joke out of it. As long as we stay eligible, I'm all in.
 
whaler11 said:
I fully support gaming it.

That’s the point, UConn doesn’t. Kentucky games it because they don’t treat the kids as students.

If UConn is going to apply the academic standards of Kentucky or UNC it means nothing to offer the incentive.

They haven’t. So it shouldn’t be a goal.

They need to win, win fast and win pretty big. There shouldn’t be a competing priority around some dopey metric that measures nothing.
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UConn started gaming the system after we got banned from the NCAA tourney. Most of the players are expected to attend summer school classes before their freshmen year. 2 years ago when they went to NYC I remember reading that the academic adviser took them to some historic sites for a day and they all got a credit.
 
There's a lot of hand-wringing in this thread over a contract provision that is (1) common, if not universal among major universities, (2) done almost entirely for PR purposes, and (3) worth pennies in comparison to the total value of the contract . . .
 
polycom said:
This is a message board and people clearly like playing characters. This is the only reason I've been able to come up with considering the Drummond story...
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The Drummond story was absolutely true. Why would I make it up - like no one would notice he wasn’t at Gampel. His plans changed and it took awhile before it got fully communicated to everyone - yes including the b!t(he’s. Not rocket science but so hard for some minds to comprehend.
 
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Chief00 said:
The Drummond story was absolutely true. Why would I make it up - like no one would notice he wasn’t at Gampel. His plans changed and it took awhile before it got fully communicated to everyone - yes including the b!t(he’s. Not rocket science but so hard for some minds to comprehend.
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No it wasn’t. But it doesn’t matter I’m not arguing with you. We don’t know each other it doesn’t matter. Just know that story isn’t true.
 
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polycom said:
No it wasn’t. But it doesn’t matter I’m not arguing with you. We don’t know each other it doesn’t matter. Just know that story isn’t true.
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It is true - that was the plan. Ask Facey if you don’t believe me.

Why did I know Dre was coming to UConn in Sept 2011 when no one else did?
 
Penfield said:
Let's go back to a time before we cared about APR and lost scholarships and eventually got banned from the NCAA tourney. That was great
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Did win a championship the following year.....
 
Chief00 said:
It is true - that was the plan. Ask Facey if you don’t believe me.

Why did I know Dre was coming to UConn in Sept 2011 when no one else did?
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Because someone told you. Look all I’m saying is Drummond is a unique individual and isn’t someone who did “random” stuff like you suggest.
 
polycom said:
Because someone told you. Look all I’m saying is Drummond is a unique individual and isn’t someone who did “random” stuff like you suggest.
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Did you predict in July and early August of 2011 that Dre was going to UConn in that Sept? If not, just perhaps, I know him much better and longer than you do.
 
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Chief00 said:
Did you predict in July and early August of 2011 that Dre was going to UConn in that Sept? If not, just perhaps, I know him much better and longer than you do.
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I've grown to appreciate your schtick. Sure, it's borderline sad but it's also pretty entertaining and every once in a while you stumble on some real insight, but good lord how did you get to this place where you're so desperate for attention / validation? Other than Trump, I've honestly never seen anything like it.
 
Chief00 said:
Did you predict in July and early August of 2011 that Dre was going to UConn in that Sept? If not, just perhaps, I know him much better and longer than you do.
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Okay Chief. Keep it up. You know someone in Drummond’s camp.
 
Chief00 said:
Did you predict in July and early August of 2011 that Dre was going to UConn in that Sept? If not, just perhaps, I know him much better and longer than you do.
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Don't mind the casual haters, Chief!

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Chief00 said:
The Drummond story was absolutely true. Why would I make it up - like no one would notice he wasn’t at Gampel. His plans changed and it took awhile before it got fully communicated to everyone - yes including the b!t(he’s. Not rocket science but so hard for some minds to comprehend.
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You have to respect a man who sticks to his story. Even if his story has more holes than a golf course.
 
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