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[Pudge]

I know there are departure fee reasons that UConn has stayed in the AAC, but that decision has also put us in the position of appearing interchangeable with a community college like Houston.

Look ...

This Football season is a Perfect EXAMPLE. We get our standard Yankee Conference Maine; Syracuse, Virginia, BC, nice trip to Navy, Cincinnati, Temple is in our zone (and far better than a decade ago), a resurgent UCF at home, traditional Fl away game at USF, back at Houston for a game against a solid power type school.

The only drag is travel to East Carolina & the LAST senior game late November against dregs Tulane.

Look at that: For where UConn came from, that is a damn good year. Better than most all the FBS years, frankly. How could we possibly replicate that outside the AAC? I just don't buy the whining. As Calhoun correctly stated, we loved playing that HOOP schedule where we got excited every night two or three times a week. That, quite frankly, is not available. Certainly NOT in the reconstituted Big East.

 

[FriarJ]

Thanks for educating us UConn fans on the obvious there genius! That was pretty evident when they bailed after leeching off of schools like UConn, Cincy, Cuse, Pitt and even WVU for years. Yes even your precious PC was a leech school!

UConn was a leech before us though. So the moral is you can improve your lot in life if you want, UConn did and so have the leeches. No precious PC, No BE, No JC, No NC's.

 

[FDNY99]

UConn was a leech before us though. So the moral is you can improve your lot in life if you want, UConn did and so have the leeches. No precious PC, No BE, No JC, No NC's.

UConn made more $$ for BE schools for a longer period of time the BE was together than any school but Syracuse! Your precious PC absolutely sucked for pretty much the entire time in the BE! JC was the one who changed the game! And don't even go there about NC's you ! You are probably the most annoying troll that comes on this board! Spend your time on the hoops or hockey board..otherwise stay out of the discussions as they certainly don't pertain tonPC athletics you tool!

 

[FriarJ]

UConn made more $$ for BE schools for a longer period of time the BE was together than any school but Syracuse! Your precious PC absolutely sucked for pretty much the entire time in the BE! JC was the one who changed the game! And don't even go there about NC's you ! You are probably the most annoying troll that comes on this board! Spend your time on the hoops or hockey board..otherwise stay out of the discussions as they certainly don't pertain tonPC athletics you tool!

that was easy, but I agree. I will stop posting on this board. Too much angst for me.

 

[FDNY99]

that was easy, but I agree. I will stop posting on this board. Too much angst for me.

Good don't let the door hit you in the a** on the way out!

 

[auror]

Thanks for moving this discussion to the proper thread.

1) right place, right time... Winning winners win.
2) I understand you are limiting to football only, but on the whole, athletics wise - it's disgusting to be thrown in to such a gulag with our level of success. Is that elitist? Sure. But we've earned our stripes, much more so than the rest of this lot.
2a) Ratings/metrics are not just UConn in a vacuum, which are fine if not remarkable. The real value is increasing the B12 in its entirety and generating interest via the most eyeballs, which our region has. Someone in Vernon watching a Texas game in that scenario is just as valuable.
3) B12 is giving the perception of being open when the reality is different. They have their consultant studies and already know the most valuable schools. It's giving schools false hope, and creating a gladiator like spectacle. I'm not impressed with how they have handled things. (That said, love you B12, pick us!)

2a only applies if the B12 creates a network along traditional DMA lines. If it's a new media streaming network only, regional distinction doesn't really matter, it's just pure eye-balls and who can bring more of them to actually watch the games (or pay for the service). DMAs are only a value method when networks are added to cable packages.

 

[jupitergolf]

Thanks for educating us UConn fans on the obvious there genius! That was pretty evident when they bailed after leeching off of schools like UConn, Cincy, Cuse, Pitt and even WVU for years. Yes even your precious PC was a leech school!

Perhaps it is you who needs the education.
Uconn was lucky to be in the league from the beginning.
Syracuse Georgetown and St Johns who made the league while Uconn slept
Cincy Pitt and WVU 3 of the biggest leeches on the Big East. only supplanted by Uconn who without the votes from some of the Catholic schools would be looking forward to open up this Football season in Durham NH.
Not denying the greatness that Uconn has acheived but come on now. I do agree that PC added little to the league other than a past history of Ernie D and Larry Kevertis.

 

[UC313]

Perhaps it is you who needs the education.
Uconn was lucky to be in the league from the beginning.
Syracuse Georgetown and St Johns who made the league while Uconn slept
Cincy Pitt and WVU 3 of the biggest leeches on the Big East. only supplanted by Uconn who without the votes from some of the Catholic schools would be looking forward to open up this Football season in Durham NH.
Not denying the greatness that Uconn has acheived but come on now. I do agree that PC added little to the league other than a past history of Ernie D and Larry Kevertis.

This is gonna go over well.

 

[Excalibur]

To the Providence, SJU, Georgetown and Syracuse fan, the only Big East seasons that count in assessing UConn are 82-83 through 85-86.

 

[Pudge]

Perhaps it is you who needs the education.
Uconn was lucky to be in the league from the beginning.
Syracuse Georgetown and St Johns who made the league while Uconn slept
Cincy Pitt and WVU 3 of the biggest leeches on the Big East. only supplanted by Uconn who without the votes from some of the Catholic schools would be looking forward to open up this Football season in Durham NH.
Not denying the greatness that Uconn has acheived but come on now. I do agree that PC added little to the league other than a past history of Ernie D and Larry Kevertis.

This is simply NOT BIG EAST History week.

Yes ... we were lucky. I also think Syracuse, Georgetown, St. John's, Villanova were lucky. This league gave all of the EASTERN schools something they hadn't had ... a platform to leap off into greater space. ESPN? Sure. All lucky.

Providence? Yup. You underachieved. You were along for the ride; and, except for small snippets in certain seasons, you never played that often amongst the BE Conference giants. Quite frankly.

 

[FriarJ]

This is simply NOT BIG EAST History week.

Yes ... we were lucky. I also think Syracuse, Georgetown, St. John's, Villanova were lucky. This league gave all of the EASTERN schools something they hadn't had ... a platform to leap off into greater space. ESPN? Sure. All lucky.

Providence? Yup. You underachieved. You were along for the ride; and, except for small snippets in certain seasons, you never played that often amongst the BE Conference giants. Quite frankly.

True, everybody was lucky... For Dave Gavitt. We as fans can spin it any way you want but Jim Calhoun, Louie Carnesseca, Jim Boheim, John Thompson, Rick Pitino, and Bill Rafftery will all say the same thing to a man, despite what we may think.

Crap... FDNY99 I apologize!

 

[Sea Goat]

Perhaps it is you who needs the education.
Uconn was lucky to be in the league from the beginning.
Syracuse Georgetown and St Johns who made the league while Uconn slept
Cincy Pitt and WVU 3 of the biggest leeches on the Big East. only supplanted by Uconn who without the votes from some of the Catholic schools would be looking forward to open up this Football season in Durham NH.
Not denying the greatness that Uconn has acheived but come on now. I do agree that PC added little to the league other than a past history of Ernie D and Larry Kevertis.

Hey jupitergolf, I give you credit for coming on this board where everyone involved is a HOF whack-a-mole player. No question that UConn was considered chaff when added to the BE in 1979. Oh, but what a "rocket to the top" story it became. In all facets and for myriad reasons that I have posted about before, no single school in the old BE has grown, athletically and academically, like UConn has. UConn went from an afterthought status in 1979 to the most successful program in short order. Academics at UConn, once snickered at by other BE schools, has surpassed most all of them in quality and reputation. Affordability is a huge plus now also. UConn has become the first choice for many students. Our athletic programs have prospered and, but for the dreadful Pasqualoni hire, are led by outstanding coaches. Of the three schools you mentioned specifically only Georgetown maintains an academic advantage over UConn. Syracuse and St. John's, while decent schools, are not up to the caliber of UConn in 2016. So would we have grown without the BE? I don't know, but I agree the old YC would not have been the answer. It may have been that our greatness would have evolved in another setting, but that is like wondering what would have happened if the Archduke had the flu on that fateful day in Sarajevo.

 

[Samoo]

True, everybody was lucky... For Dave Gavitt. We as fans can spin it any way you want but Jim Calhoun, Louie Carnesseca, Jim Boheim, John Thompson, Rick Pitino, and Bill Rafftery will all say the same thing to a man, despite what we may think.

Crap... FDNY99 I apologize!

Look, UConn was regular season or tournament champion 17 times; Providence once.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Hey jupitergolf, I give you credit for coming on this board where everyone involved is a HOF whack-a-mole player. No question that UConn was considered chaff when added to the BE in 1979. Oh, but what a "rocket to the top" story it became. In all facets and for myriad reasons that I have posted about before, no single school in the old BE has grown, athletically and academically, like UConn has. UConn went from an afterthought status in 1979 to the most successful program in short order. Academics at UConn, once snickered at by other BE schools, has surpassed most all of them in quality and reputation. Affordability is a huge plus now also. UConn has become the first choice for many students. Our athletic programs have prospered and, but for the dreadful Pasqualoni hire, are led by outstanding coaches. Of the three schools you mentioned specifically only Georgetown maintains an academic advantage over UConn. Syracuse and St. John's, while decent schools, are not up to the caliber of UConn in 2016. So would we have grown without the BE? I don't know, but I agree the old YC would not have been the answer. It may have been that our greatness would have evolved in another setting, but that is like wondering what would have happened if the Archduke had the flu on that fateful day in Sarajevo.

Seagoat, you are a little off.

Ask yourself (or Jupiter perhaps) how long it took for PC to finish ahead of UConn in the BE.

 

[CL82]

Perhaps it is you who needs the education.
Uconn was lucky to be in the league from the beginning.
Syracuse Georgetown and St Johns who made the league while Uconn slept
Cincy Pitt and WVU 3 of the biggest leeches on the Big East. only supplanted by Uconn who without the votes from some of the Catholic schools would be looking forward to open up this Football season in Durham NH.
Not denying the greatness that Uconn has acheived but come on now. I do agree that PC added little to the league other than a past history of Ernie D and Larry Kevertis.

Who earned the natties in the old Big East?
Name the top 5 in BET championships?
Name the top 5 in conference regular season championships.
Name the teams that brought the most fans to the BET?

Let me know, if you see providence in those categories.

 

[Waquoit]

No question that UConn was considered chaff when added to the BE in 1979.

That's baloney. UConn was a promising team on the come when added to the BE in 1979. They were coming off an season that lead to a berth in the Big Dance and most of their best players were underclassmen. The Civic Center was newly rebuilt and UConn filled it for all of the Big East games. The last BET was in Hartford where the hopes were high for a good run. Everything was in place but a good coach.

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

True, everybody was lucky... For Dave Gavitt. We as fans can spin it any way you want but Jim Calhoun, Louie Carnesseca, Jim Boheim, John Thompson, Rick Pitino, and Bill Rafftery will all say the same thing to a man, despite what we may think.

Crap... FDNY99 I apologize!

It was Dave Gavitt who lobbied hard for UConn to be the 8th original Big East school, over Boston College's objections (they wanted Holy Cross).

That said, UConn was not a doormat in 1979, it was the most successful Yankee Conference school in history with a large, dedicated fan base. Gavitt simply realized the potential of UConn before anyone else not associated with the school.

This seems oddly relevant still today.

 

[HuskyHawk]

This is simply NOT BIG EAST History week.

Yes ... we were lucky. I also think Syracuse, Georgetown, St. John's, Villanova were lucky. This league gave all of the EASTERN schools something they hadn't had ... a platform to leap off into greater space. ESPN? Sure. All lucky.

Providence? Yup. You underachieved. You were along for the ride; and, except for small snippets in certain seasons, you never played that often amongst the BE Conference giants. Quite frankly.

Yes, we were all lucky.

I get tired of UConn fans jumping on PC fans or others about being "leeches". They weren't. Nobody was. Some teams will be better in each league than others. That's how it works. No matter who is there, somebody finishes last. We need to be a little less arrogant. We aren't exactly Michigan here, sitting pretty.

The Big East was great in part because the weakest teams were pretty darned good. That drove up the overall strength of the league and rankings for everybody. We won a national championship while not even getting a bye in our league tournament. That's great for UConn, but that fortitude we showed in the tournament came from knowing that we were in a game every game through the league schedule. I watched entirely too many UConn team lose at the Dunk to get on a high horse about PC.

UConn, Syracuse, Georgetown, Villanova and early on St. Johns. Those were the giants. But the rest helped make them that way. Pitt had awesome teams. BC even had some great teams. PC as well under Pitino. Even Seton Hall got into the act briefly. [Fire suit on for friendly fire flaming]

 

[FriarJ]

Look, UConn was regular season or tournament champion 17 times; Providence once.

No denying that and simply not what my post was about. UConn did it all themselves, once they were in, which is key to my point. Not everything is a slam.

 

[FriarJ]

Who earned the natties in the old Big East?
Name the top 5 in BET championships?
Name the top 5 in conference regular season championships.
Name the teams that brought the most fans to the BET?

Let me know, if you see providence in those categories.

Come on now, he takes a shot at PC, he's obviously not a PC fan.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

As some who was actually there, we were competing successfully in the same conference th ECAC , as our fellow schools.
We had tournament teams in the late 70's and although not a private or a Catholic were an obvious choice. Dave Gavitt saw the potential of UConn well before the pea brains at Storrs did. Personal friendship didn't hurt ,UConn was an original choice. Gavitt understood the state's appetite for basketball despite UConn inferiority complex.
The reality is except in their own minds not one Big East team was perceived as a national player.
Gavitt saw that as ridicules and was proven to be a visionary

 

[Sea Goat]

Seagoat, you are a little off.

Ask yourself (or Jupiter perhaps) how long it took for PC to finish ahead of UConn in the BE.

I didn't get the sense he was touting PC over UConn - maybe he knows I'm a scratch whack-a-mole player myself.

Re: PC and trying to give credit where due, Gavitt was the creative force behind the BE. The trouble with the Providence-centric mind set, however, was that there was zero appreciation for the importance of football.
More of the PC mentality followed Gavitt in the person of Tranghese and "Meatball" Marinatto (all three came out of the PC athletic department). The old BE never "got it" re: football and was "whistling through the graveyard" when the final destruction commenced in 2011..

 

[Sea Goat]

That's baloney. UConn was a promising team on the come when added to the BE in 1979. They were coming off an season that lead to a berth in the Big Dance and most of their best players were underclassmen. The Civic Center was newly rebuilt and UConn filled it for all of the Big East games. The last BET was in Hartford where the hopes were high for a good run. Everything was in place but a good coach.

Fair or not, trouble was we couldn't control how people thought of us in those days. Heck, I thought we were great when Toby, ably assisted by Dom Perno and Spider Hesford, led us to our first elite eight appearance in '64. (no TV in those days, just the radio brilliance of George Ehrlich)

 

[pepband99]

PeeCee is neither premium, nor top shelf. Please stop polluting this thread with nonsense.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Fair or not, trouble was we couldn't control how people thought of us in those days. Heck, I thought we were great when Toby, ably assisted by Dom Perno and Spider Hesford, led us to our first elite eight appearance in '64. (no TV in those days, just the radio brilliance of George Ehrlich)

Channel 8 televised some UConn games especially Yale
I worked with a guy that was a camera man for WNHC
They had Miltary surplus cameras for remote broadcasts
The entire game consisted of making sure you had at least on of your cameras working.
Radio was king though

 

[FDNY99]

True, everybody was lucky... For Dave Gavitt. We as fans can spin it any way you want but Jim Calhoun, Louie Carnesseca, Jim Boheim, John Thompson, Rick Pitino, and Bill Rafftery will all say the same thing to a man, despite what we may think.

Crap... FDNY99 I apologize!

This is actually IMHO the best post you have ever had on here!

 

[FDNY99]

Perhaps it is you who needs the education.
Uconn was lucky to be in the league from the beginning.
Syracuse Georgetown and St Johns who made the league while Uconn slept
Cincy Pitt and WVU 3 of the biggest leeches on the Big East. only supplanted by Uconn who without the votes from some of the Catholic schools would be looking forward to open up this Football season in Durham NH.
Not denying the greatness that Uconn has acheived but come on now. I do agree that PC added little to the league other than a past history of Ernie D and Larry Kevertis.

Ahhh another troll with a post on a UConn board. Have a nice day..don't let the door hit you in the a** on the way out!

 

[#MACtion]

I disagree that those are premium tweets in that other thread.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

From the ISU president's comments - if they truly are anticipating this to run into the winter (he said by Christmas this could be wrapped up) this is GREAT news for us. The longer this drags out, the more of an opportunity we have to prove on the football field that we belong. If it somehow ran into the spring, that would be even better as it would give our basketball programs the opportunity to put UConn at the forefront of people's minds.

 

[mavblues]

Re: the ISU President's interview, the "play fairly" comment is most likely directed at BYU, since a number of their players are older. Not even sure which of the other candidates would require "play fairly" consideration or commentary.

Unless, of course, this guy is just an a$$hat and has absolutely no idea what he is talking about, which is probably a 50/50 proposition.