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They will finish November 'strong,' I believe that. This is their schedule through December. Other than VPI it's cupcakes all the way down. Probably end up12-2. As for beating VPI, I doubt it. It's not impossible. But if they do win that game it will say more about VPI than it does about them. The real question for me is if UVa can upset them.


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I’d sure love for UVA to beat LSU, or at least give them a battle. But I don’t expect it. While we’ll be playing with some good recruits/transfers, we’ll be without Brunelle and Mir McLean till December or January.
 
Could Mulkey be like Calipari?

Some now doubt the men’s Kentucky coach’s ability because he keeps getting the best talent yet fails to deliver. Yet Calipari proved he was an excellent coach (sleazy but excellent) at UMass, Memphis and his early years at Kentucky. I think Calipari’s problem has been that since he can win almost all the recruiting battles he does so indiscriminately. He now wins one and done recruits that lack chemistry rather than win championships.

I always thought adding Morrow was more a bane for LSU than a boon. Van Lith as well, though that one made a tiny bit more sense to me. NIL and the transfer portal has the potential of creating men’s type rosters, with many elites built on immediate talent rather than developed chemistry. In such an atmosphere an accomplished coach like Mulkey may be primed to be the women’s Calipari (though much less sleazy, don’t get me wrong there).
This is a pretty grand comparison based off of one game so far. Coach Calipari has effectively turned Kentucky into an NBA 1 and done factory and they're seldom considered a title threat anymore. He's even openly stated that his goal is to get players to the NBA, not win titles.

Kim was forced to rely on the portal to revamp her team and won a title in year two at a new school. She's won 4 championships in her career and turned Baylor into a powerhouse, and is now doing the same at LSU. People harp on her using the portal so heavily, but what other option did she have to turn LSU into a title contender so quickly? She's recruited extremely well out of the HS ranks the last few years and has LSU primed to be a title threat for years to come.
 
Time will tell, but this loss may be the best thing to happen to LSU all season. It's an immediate--and very public--reminder that they are going to need to work perhaps even harder than last season to repeat as champions. Good to know that in early November as opposed to January.
I agree. I'd been wondering why Kim scheduled this game so early. But it might well have been to give her players an ego-tuneup. Now they can become the team their collective yet isolated talents suggested to pundits everywhere.
 
This is a pretty grand comparison based off of one game so far. Coach Calipari has effectively turned Kentucky into an NBA 1 and done factory and they're seldom considered a title threat anymore. He's even openly stated that his goal is to get players to the NBA, not win titles.

Kim was forced to rely on the portal to revamp her team and won a title in year two at a new school. She's won 4 championships in her career and turned Baylor into a powerhouse, and is now doing the same at LSU. People harp on her using the portal so heavily, but what other option did she have to turn LSU into a title contender so quickly? She's recruited extremely well out of the HS ranks the last few years and has LSU primed to be a title threat for years to come.
1. I have claimed a few times that Mulkey is the 2nd best coach, based on how she has won titles with totally different squads. My conjecture was not a knock on her coaching ability.

2. Despite what Calipari claims, if his goal is not also to win championships he would be gone from Kentucky before now. And he did win a championship soon after he got there, then almost had the first perfect season in 30 years. But if Kentucky does not start performing better soon in the tournament he will be gone. I am surprised you accept that excuse he makes for his results at face value.

3. Mulkey has now won soon after switching to LSU, just as Calipari did switching to Kentucky. She won in recruiting for elite transfers that made sense her first year, then won in recruiting for elite transfers that do not make as much sense in the second year. Indiscriminate recruiting for elites is also like Calipari. Calipari would go after a player like Morrow, which does not fit well with Reese and interferes with developing Rosario. Maybe you think Morrow will fit in well, point taken, let’s just see if she does.

4. A “grand” comparison suggests my tone was declarative. The tone was clearly speculative so may I suggest to you that “premature” is a better critique for you to make. It’s premature because it is speculating based on only two years of recruiting at Mulkey’s new school, though recent reports of how hard she is trying to get both Edwards and Strong with NIL offers suggests the possibility of a third year of this pattern. Going for both similar players, 1 and 2 in their class, definitely emulates Calipari, whether by intention or not. But it’s still only three years and my speculation of the pattern could prove premature. Again, we will see.

5. Frankly, I expect at least one more title for Mulkey whether or not this pattern holds, just as Calipari was successful for awhile. They are both great coaches. However, I don’t think indiscriminate recruiting of elites for the present produces as well as selective and developmental recruiting. Once again, we will see.
 
I had to look at LSU's schedule last night and, yeah. I feel bad for your Royals. LSU about to hand out a beat down.

This is their second year in Division 1, they went 8-21 last season. They played at Ole Mi$$ to start the season, so they know what its like to face a $EC power. My Royals actually led 5-2 early in the game. It got out of hand after the first quarter though
 
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I’d sure love for UVA to beat LSU, or at least give them a battle. But I don’t expect it. While we’ll be playing with some good recruits/transfers, we’ll be without Brunelle and Mir McLean till December or January.
Brunelle injured again? I don’t think she has been consistently healthy since her freshman year. Muffett played her hard that year, wonder if that has contributed to her injuries.
 
Brunelle injured again? I don’t think she has been consistently healthy since her freshman year. Muffett played her hard that year, wonder if that has contributed to her injuries.
Can you define "hard?' As in a lot of minutes? If so, she did play more than 33 minutes per game her freshman season. ND was besieged by injuries that year and Sam played all forward positions. After Muffet retired and Coach Ivey took over, Sam came off the bench and played 10 minutes less per game, or some 23 per outing. At no point was she injured those two years.

The injuries came her junior year. Sam’s momentum was halted with a shoulder sprain injury in which she was forced to exit a Louisville game in early February. She wore s a shoulder brace/sling for the remainder of the season.

The lower body injuries have, unfortunately, taken place since she transferred back home to Charlottesville. Hope she can get over them because she's out of eligibility.
 
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I agree. I'd been wondering why Kim scheduled this game so early. But it might well have been to give her players an ego-tuneup. Now they can become the team their collective yet isolated talents suggested to pundits everywhere.
Not sure why any one would expect a defending national champion not to schedule aggressively.
 
Mulkey is a great coach, if not particularly likeable. Arguably #3 behind Geno and Pat all time.

The SC-LSU rivalry should be intense.

I think Vic joining the party with a promising Texas squad might be pretty fun too.
 
Mulkey is a great coach, if not particularly likeable. Arguably #3 behind Geno and Pat all time.
Not sure she jumps ahead of Tara. 1 more Championship, but way short in victories and Final 4s. Like barely over half as many wins. That seems like quite a stretch.
 
Not sure she jumps ahead of Tara. 1 more Championship, but way short in victories and Final 4s. Like barely over half as many wins. That seems like quite a stretch.
It took Tara 30 years to win her 3rd title and they barely won. If not for Haley Jones and a couple of missed layups, she wouldn't have that one. She's also been a head coach way longer than Kim.
 
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It took Tara 30 years to win her 3rd title and they barely won. If not for Haley Jones and a couple of missed layups, she wouldn't have that one. She's also been a head coach way longer than Kim.
Only 3 Titles is the knock on Tara, but Kim should have a lot more Final 4s. Dawn has just as many as Kim, in a lot less years of coaching. Tara has been winning consistently for a very long time, that's gotta be worth something. And racking up a lot of Final 4s. Way more than anybody not named Geno or Pat.
 
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Only 3 Titles is the knock on Tara, but Kim should have a lot more Final 4s. Dawn has just as many as Kim, in a lot less years of coaching. Tara has been winning consistently for a very long time, that's gotta be worth something. And racking up a lot of Final 4s. Way more than anybody not named Geno or Pat.
Not just the 3 titles but how long it took her in between titles. 30 years? That's insane! Kim hasn't even been a head coach for 30 years. And yes, final fours are great but titles are greater imo.
 
Not just the 3 titles but how long it took her in between titles. 30 years? That's insane! Kim hasn't even been a head coach for 30 years. And yes, final fours are great but titles are greater imo.
Titles are one thing, but they aren't everything to me. Kim has never even been to back to back Final 4s. Somehow when she's had a group of players good enough to win it all, it's been a one off. She's all or nothing. Cuts down the nets or flames out early. Way more so than any of the other elite coaches in the conversation. That is a legit knock against her.
 
I don't actually have a stake in the Kim vs Tara debate, but I can't agree that Kim is "all or nothing."

Sure she's never been to back to back final 4s, but in her last 12 years of NCAA tournaments at Baylor she never missed a sweet 16: 3 sweet 16s, 6 elite 8s, one final 4, and 2 championships. [there was an excellent chance Baylor would have been a #1 seed and a final four favorite in year tournament was cancelled." It's also a very impressive feat that her 4 titles have come from only 5 Final Four appearances.
 
I don't actually have a stake in the Kim vs Tara debate, but I can't agree that Kim is "all or nothing."

Sure she's never been to back to back final 4s, but in her last 12 years of NCAA tournaments at Baylor she never missed a sweet 16: 3 sweet 16s, 6 elite 8s, one final 4, and 2 championships. [there was an excellent chance Baylor would have been a #1 seed and a final four favorite in year tournament was cancelled." It's also a very impressive feat that her 4 titles have come from only 5 Final Four appearances.
Weren't they a #1 or #2 seed pretty much every one of those seasons? Getting to the Sweet 16 isn't exactly a huge accomplishment for the elites in womens hoops. I just remember her having quite a few very talented teams that fell short of expectations. Too many for me to consider her the third best coach of all time.
 

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