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I agree, we have become the villains.

I think it's absolutely ridiculous, UConn is such an easy team to root for. We aren't even P5 and are a testament to the fact that you don't need to be one of those schools to be successful. A win in the natty game for a school like Purdue wouldn't change much but it means everything for UConn

Go hate on a school like Kentucky, at least we aren't killing college athletics
Who cares - its what happens when you come off repeat national championships in dominant fashion. It’s a good thing. The team should use it as extra motivation to right the ship and make them all these Uconn haters eat crow again. It’s just November.
 
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I'm not gonna repeat what's probably already been said 50 times already, but I just want to add the no-call when McNeeley got mugged where the CO player was blatantly grabbing his right arm as he tried to get the rebound was complete BS. If the refs call that, we probably win yesterday.

Then again, we should have played better so that 1 or 2 missed calls by the refs wouldn't have affected the outcome. Regardless, the last couple days have sucked (and now we play a very good Dayton team that took UNC and Iowa St to the wire). Totally possible we go 0-3 in Maui but I still believe this team can right itself in time for the tourney. But not gonna be a relative cakewalk like last season.

Also, silver lining: we are still undefeated in Big East play!
 
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I can’t say I’m surprised to be honest (so much so I’ve actually made money these past few days).

We really wasted a whole summer gearing an offense and handing the keys to a 6’3 175 pound combo guard that never played point, let alone run an offense this complicated.

Then our 6th year senior somehow has no concept of time and score and chucks a contested 3 point shot even though we’re down 1 point with 6 seconds left. That’s why we never wanted him to be a starter.

Like do we teach these guys skills outside of shooting 3s and how to run this overhyped offense seriously. We have completely lost the plot to what actually made us great these past two years and it’s worriesome that Hurley has misjudged this team and what actually made us so good these past two years.
Diarra made the best out of a play that got blown up, your brain just doesn’t realize it because that’s how it goes.
 

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Diarra made the best out of a play that got blown up, your brain just doesn’t realize it because that’s how it goes.
I forgot any 3 is a good 3
 
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Things i'd like to see but hey I'm old school.
1. Stay on your feet when defending. You leave your feet you are going to get nailed most of the time. concept of verticality is over rated.
2. Don't chase cutters over screens, our bigs are going to commit fouls all by themselves, expecting them to help constantly means they will be using up their fouls for sure. Take the cuts away - no face cuts, or just get over the top of the screens.
3. Keep the ball in front of you if you are guarding it. A lot of matador defense being played.
4. You have to make 3's but too much influence on it for me. You have to be able to get the ball to the rim. It's not that every official in the country hates us we just aren't putting enough offensive pressure on our opponents.
 
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Diarra made the best out of a play that got blown up, your brain just doesn’t realize it because that’s how it goes.
There was no play. Diarra got the inbound, didn’t even look at Karaban coming back to the ball, McNeeley half-heartedly cut to the hoop to open up space (no opening), so Diarra took a step back 3

It feels like the design was for Diarra to pitch it back to Karaban who would get a Stewart screen and attack the hoop with Solo in the corner. But it can’t be a broken play since nobody even tried to run a play
 

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There was no play. Diarra got the inbound, didn’t even look at Karaban coming back to the ball, McNeeley half-heartedly cut to the hoop to open up space (no opening), so Diarra took a step back 3

It feels like the design was for Diarra to pitch it back to Karaban who would get a Stewart screen and attack the hoop with Solo in the corner. But it can’t be a broken play since nobody even tried to run a play
Diarra is good at driving the ball. He should’ve 100% taken it to the rim and at least given himself a chance to get fouled. Or an easier to make pull up jumper.

There’s no way a very contested step back 3 down by 1 with that much time on the clock was the right play. No excuse for that. As a 6th year senior.

After the heroics from yesterday the play probably should’ve been Solo’s anyways.
 
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Diarra is good at driving the ball. He should’ve 100% taken it to the rim and at least given himself a chance to get fouled. Or an easier to make pull up jumper.

There’s no way a very contested step back 3 down by 1 with that much time on the clock was the right play. No excuse for that. As a 6th year senior.

After the heroics from yesterday the play probably should’ve been Solo’s anyways.
Yeah, if we need a last second shot, I'm giving Solo the ball. He's fearless.
 
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Steph Curry’s career 3 point percentage is 42.6%, and he is viewed as the top gunner in the game. These two teams shot over 50% for the GAME. I know that our defense has been weak. I know that our defense must improve going forward. But can it be that these two teams have shot their w—— against us? Memphis beat MSU but only shot 34.5% from 3. It is incredibly rare for a team to shoot over 50% from 3. We had two teams in back to back games. Let’s settle down, this is beginning to look like just plain old bad luck.
Also, it seems to me that this dilemma has an easy fix: first, don’t double the bigs. Stay with your man on the perimeter. We saw what happened against Purdue, right? If their center scores 30 on 20 shots, let him. That’s 20 2 point shots instead of 10 made 3’s. If we played that kind of “stay in your lane” defense I do not believe we lose against Memphis or Colorado. And second, replace Aidan with Nowell. It is obvious that Nowell cannot be exploited like Aidan.
I do not believe that this current situation is hard to fix. But it will require a game plan change because, as we all know, we don’t have DC down in the paint any more.
 

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I’ve said that repeatedly. I’ve just noticed McNeeley doesn’t offer resistance on drives. Also thought he would be getting more rebounds from the first few games. 1 in 33 minutes is rough.

Expecting Mahaney to be Spencer or anything close is a mistake.

Expecting Diarra to be Newton or anything close is a mistake.

Mahaney should get better based on his record. Diarra isn't going to get measurably better. I think at times he thinks he has to fill Newton's role. He doesn't. Hurely needs to adjust the offense so that he doesn't.

While Bilas has been talking up Diarra's defense like a blind date's personality. The words have consistently be paired with live action of him getting burned on the court.

Johnson seems a lost cause. Not sure he even knows what a foul is. Unlike some of the other calls, Johnson is definitely fouling at a ridiculous rate.
 
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Steph was composite #9 overall. McNeeley was composite #10 overall. Steph’s supporting cast was much better. We didn’t need the sort of contribution from Steph at this juncture of the season that we need from McNeeley.
While DC cleaned up any mess from poor defense by last year's guards, I think you're discounting the impact of Steph's defense compared to McNeeley. Steph could be counted on to shut down the best guard/wing on opposing teams and is looking like he'll be doing the same in the NBA for a long time.

When your best offensive player gets stopped repeatedly they become a non-entity and it frustrates the whole team. McNeeley hasn't shown (yet) that he'll be doing anything close to that. In his defense (pun intended), he's still adjusting to the speed and athleticism of the college game but Steph was a great defender from day one, with or without DC in the game.
 

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While DC cleaned up any mess from poor defense by last year's guards, I think you're discounting the impact of Steph's defense compared to McNeeley. Steph could be counted on to shut down the best guard/wing on opposing teams and is looking like he'll be doing the same in the NBA for a long time.

When your best offensive player gets stopped repeatedly they become a non-entity and it frustrates the whole team. McNeeley hasn't shown (yet) that he'll be doing anything close to that. In his defense (pun intended), he's still adjusting to the speed and athleticism of the college game but Steph was a great defender from day one, with or without DC in the game.
I think you’re discounting my specific mention of “at this juncture in the season”.

Steph was injured and not even playing at this time last year. He missed games vs Indiana, Texas, and Kansas. His first game back he had 3 points 1-3 fg and 4 rebounds in just 10 minutes.

I know what Steph brought to the table. He went on to be the #4 overall pick. Still, he didn’t, and didn’t need to have the impact 5-7 games into his freshman season that McNeeley has had to provide.
 
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Fouling is the issue. That is defense and moving feet. 28 free throws for Colorado and 51% shooting.

Hard to win when all you do is foul.

You can't fix all at once but defense, rebounding and leadership are the biggest issues. Not sure what order, but when all four cupcakes drove at will against us that should have been a huge red flag for what was to come, so maybe it's defense. Planning to outscore everyone isn't a good plan at tournament time.

We could use some KEA level moxie so, if AN has it, a good start would be with him getting more time and, if Abraham is as good a defender as we've been told, maybe he gets more time and somebody else gets less time. Take our lumps now, play those that give the greatest upside for the long term and build for the tournament.
 
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Colorado was a 10 seed last year, didn't they beat 7 seed Florida and go out to Marquette in a close one in round 2? Are they really that bad??
 
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Colorado was a 10 seed last year, didn't they beat 7 seed Florida and go out to Marquette in a close one in round 2? Are they really that bad??

Yes, they lost all of those players.
 
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Hate to say it but it is the truth. We needed Karaban today and he didn't show up.

Not saying, he isn't a great player. Hopefully this game is an outlier. But this is the type of game that a great player wins for you. Not today. If you want to be an all American, you win this game for your team.
He is a great player, but is not a take over the game kind of a player. It is going to be difficult to find a combination of players on the squad who will allow Alex to be great. I don’t think it’s gonna be an overnight fix. The retool is a massive undertaking, greater than we all expected, and maybe staff too. Victims of excessive exuberance right now. After Maui, everyone is just going to have to accept who we are, and where we are and work from there rather than who we were and what we want to be.
 
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Colorado was a 10 seed last year, didn't they beat 7 seed Florida and go out to Marquette in a close one in round 2? Are they really that bad??
all their best players either are in the NBA or entered the portal, brand new team
 

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While DC cleaned up any mess from poor defense by last year's guards, I think you're discounting the impact of Steph's defense compared to McNeeley. Steph could be counted on to shut down the best guard/wing on opposing teams and is looking like he'll be doing the same in the NBA for a long time.

When your best offensive player gets stopped repeatedly they become a non-entity and it frustrates the whole team. McNeeley hasn't shown (yet) that he'll be doing anything close to that. In his defense (pun intended), he's still adjusting to the speed and athleticism of the college game but Steph was a great defender from day one, with or without DC in the game.
Steph exactly as you described. Andre the lockdown 6-6 defender the year before. We may have the 6-6 (or 6-7) athlete on the bench with Abraham. Got to begin getting him minutes to put out some of these perimeter fires. If we can consistently shut down the other teams premier scorer or distributor we seem to have a lot of offensive firepower to pick up the slack and Abraham has shown he can score as well in the limited minutes he has played.
 

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