College Football 2020: Buzz about spring football season- “Expect news to break soon”

[DoctorWho85]

Without fans...there will be monetary losses..

Programs already teetering on the edge with lower media money could drop football. The loss of ticket, parking, and concession revenue combined with lower booster contributions, could be a back breaker.

Luckily UCONN has been planning for just this situation with their tiny home crowds lately at The Rent

 

[freescooter]

I recently heard the ad from Arkansas talking about how Woodrow Wilson “encouraged” colleges to play in 1918 as if that was a rational comparison. Of course it ignores that 100 years ago the world and medical science were in radically different places than they are today. Plus that Wilson, with the country at war made a conscious effort to downplay the extent of the flu as did France Germany and Great Britain. In fact it was named the Spanish Flu because as a neutral country Spain actually reported true impacts.

Then of course there is the question of testing. We can’t get enough for the general public but they want 1000s for the Arkansas football team. And all the others as well.
Seems to me it is time for grown ups to step in and say ENOUGH! If the governors of California, Oregon, Washington, Ohio, Massachusetts New York and a few others said knock it off that would do it.

 

[UConnJim]

I recently heard the ad from Arkansas talking about how Woodrow Wilson “encouraged” colleges to play in 1918 as if that was a rational comparison. Of course it ignores that 100 years ago the world and medical science were in radically different places than they are today. Plus that Wilson, with the country at war made a conscious effort to downplay the extent of the flu as did France Germany and Great Britain. In fact it was named the Spanish Flu because as a neutral country Spain actually reported true impacts.

Then of course there is the question of testing. We can’t get enough for the general public but they want 1000s for the Arkansas football team. And all the others as well.
Seems to me it is time for grown ups to step in and say ENOUGH! If the governors of California, Oregon, Washington, Ohio, Massachusetts New York and a few others said knock it off that would do it.

Colleges will do everything in their power to get students to campus in the fall, otherwise many colleges, with the exception of the very wealthy colleges and flagship state universities, will face financial ruin. That is why I think playing football this fall will be done on a state by state, college by college basis, which I think is OK. In the 1943 season during WW2, some schools played and some did not.

The bottom line, we need to get the economy restarted as quickly as possible as the current economic numbers are saying depression, not recession. At the same time, we need to do everything we can to protect the most vulnerable.

 

[freescooter]

Colleges will do everything in their power to get students to campus in the fall, otherwise many colleges, with the exception of the very wealthy colleges and flagship state universities, will face financial ruin. That is why I think playing football this fall will be done on a state by state, college by college basis, which I think is OK. In the 1943 season during WW2, some schools played and some did not.

The bottom line, we need to get the economy restarted as quickly as possible as the current economic numbers are saying depression, not recession. At the same time, we need to do everything we can to protect the most vulnerable.

The way you protect the most vulnerable is to NOT start the economy in the way that endangers them and others. Stop the nonsense. Had we done that in February we’d have avoided a lot of this. The economy would be on its way back. But we didn’t. Too many alleged leaders twiddled their thumbs from the dope in the White House to the blockhead in Gracie Mansion afraid that taking the correct steps would damage the economy. Well how’d that work out? Now we are facing over 100000 deaths, and a ravaged economy.

 

[CL82]

The way you protect the most vulnerable is to NOT start the economy in the way that endangers them and others. Stop the nonsense. Had we done that in February we’d have avoided a lot of this. The economy would be on its way back. But we didn’t. Too many alleged leaders twiddled their thumbs from the dope in the White House to the blockhead in Gracie Mansion afraid that taking the correct steps would damage the economy. Well how’d that work out? Now we are facing over 100000 deaths, and a ravaged economy.

freescooter

 

[billybud]

I am of the Woodstock generation...and, it is little known...but Woodstock went on during a pandemic...

“It was first noted in the United States in September 1968. The estimated number of deaths was 1 million worldwide and about 100,000 in the United States. Most excess deaths were in people 65 years and older. The H3N2 virus continues to circulate worldwide as a seasonal influenza A virus.”

True claim: Woodstock took place in the middle of a pandemic

Social media users have been sharing an image online that claims the popular music festival Woodstock, which took place in August 1969, happened in the middle of a pandemic. This claim is correct.

www.reuters.com

 

[billybud]

”Susan Craddock, a professor at the University of Minnesota, told the WSJ that mortality rates for the 1968 pandemic were significantly lower than those of COVID-19, and that without 24-hour news coverage, online resources and social media to heighten public anxiety, politicians were under less pressure to act than they are today."

 

[UCFBfan]

NCAA president Mark Emmert: No sports without students on campus

"If a school doesn’t reopen, then they’re not going to be playing sports. It’s really that simple," Emmert said.

sports.yahoo.com

>>We’ve reminded you in this space many times that no one is in charge. The NCAA will have little say in football’s return. The conference commissioners are meeting every day on Zoom, but there’s still a worry that leagues are going to eventually scatter to uphold their best interests.<<

This is going to be very interesting. The NCAA is falling apart and almost done for. The fact that they have zero control over any school is now very apparent.

So let's say schools start going at it based on their states guidelines. Many southern and Midwestern states have not been hit as hard and have lessened restrictions. I could see many SEC and Big 12 schools start up. However, I look at the B1G, what happens if Iowa and Nebraska can play but the rest can't? Do they go forward playing? Same with ACC? Miami, Clemson, FSU can play but Syracuse and BC are absolute no.

So some of those conferences decide to go forward without their conference mates for now. What happens to TV revenue? Do those conferences still feel ok giving non playing members their 20+ million dollars when they don't play a down of football? Does Iowa and Nebraska stay in the B1G if they can't play? Do these conferences still get massive TV deals for this season if they can't play?

It's going to be an interesting mess.

 

[Husky25]

NCAA president Mark Emmert: No sports without students on campus

"If a school doesn’t reopen, then they’re not going to be playing sports. It’s really that simple," Emmert said.

sports.yahoo.com

>>We’ve reminded you in this space many times that no one is in charge. The NCAA will have little say in football’s return. The conference commissioners are meeting every day on Zoom, but there’s still a worry that leagues are going to eventually scatter to uphold their best interests.<<

This is going to be very interesting. The NCAA is falling apart and almost done for. The fact that they have zero control over any school is now very apparent.

So let's say schools start going at it based on their states guidelines. Many southern and Midwestern states have not been hit as hard and have lessened restrictions. I could see many SEC and Big 12 schools start up. However, I look at the B1G, what happens if Iowa and Nebraska can play but the rest can't? Do they go forward playing? Same with ACC? Miami, Clemson, FSU can play but Syracuse and BC are absolute no.

So some of those conferences decide to go forward without their conference mates for now. What happens to TV revenue? Do those conferences still feel ok giving non playing members their 20+ million dollars when they don't play a down of football? Does Iowa and Nebraska stay in the B1G if they can't play? Do these conferences still get massive TV deals for this season if they can't play?

It's going to be an interesting mess.

Michigan's SaH orders prohibited a Super-Walmart grocery shopper purchase a rake from the same location. Safe to say that Wolverine and/or Spartan football is nonessential.

 

[billybud]

I don't think not playing Syracuse or Boston this season would be of geat effect to the ACC....could be even a cause for celebration at FSU and Clemson. The hope would be a switch with GT.

Both FSU and Clemson are GT's closest rivals yet neither play them in division. A precursor to a north-south realignment?

GT is FSU's oldest (1st game 1902) and closest ACC rival and GT started playing Clemson way back in 1898.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

I don't think not playing Syracuse or Boston this season would be of geat effect to the ACC....could be even a cause for celebration at FSU and Clemson.

If this absurd idea of 60% of a conference's schools playing comes to fruition, it does not bode well for the low-level P5 schools like SU, BC, Washington State, Iowa State, Vanderbilt, etc. who are propped up by the high-end ones.

 

[UConnJim]

The way you protect the most vulnerable is to NOT start the economy in the way that endangers them and others. Stop the nonsense. Had we done that in February we’d have avoided a lot of this. The economy would be on its way back. But we didn’t. Too many alleged leaders twiddled their thumbs from the dope in the White House to the blockhead in Gracie Mansion afraid that taking the correct steps would damage the economy. Well how’d that work out? Now we are facing over 100000 deaths, and a ravaged economy.

Unfortunately, a depression would devastate the economy and the health of millions. Ask anybody you know who owns a business about how they are feeling as many will not survive the shutdown even if we opened up tomorrow. And, there will be more layoffs in many industries.

I also understand that people are scared and many have witnessed the death of loved ones, friends, and neighbors, but, we now know through lots of data (unfortunately) who the vulnerable are and we can protect them. I believe the stats from Massachusetts are pretty accurate:

Deaths under age 30 = 4
Deaths under age 50 = 64
Deaths over age 60 = 4610
Average age of those who died = 82
98.4% had an underlying health issue.
60% of deaths are residents of LT health facilities.

We do know that the number of infected people has been underreported as many had the virus before there was testing or they sent people home who were sick without testing early in the pandemic, or they were asymptomatic. The mortality rate for those under 50 in Massachusetts who tested positive for COVID-19 is 0.2%. This percentage is overstated due to the underreported number of people who were exposed and almost all had an underlying health issue.

So, we need to protect those over age 65, those with underlying health issues, and those in LT health care facilities. People in those categories should continue to stay at home. If they were working before the pandemic, offer them LT disability pay to stay home until there is a vaccine or successful treatments.

 

[huskymedic]

Unfortunately, a depression would devastate the economy and the health of millions. Ask anybody you know who owns a business about how they are feeling as many will not survive the shutdown even if we opened up tomorrow. And, there will be more layoffs in many industries.

I also understand that people are scared and many have witnessed the death of loved ones, friends, and neighbors, but, we now know through lots of data (unfortunately) who the vulnerable are and we can protect them. I believe the stats from Massachusetts are pretty accurate:

Deaths under age 30 = 4
Deaths under age 50 = 64
Deaths over age 60 = 4610
Average age of those who died = 82
98.4% had an underlying health issue.
60% of deaths are residents of LT health facilities.

We do know that the number of infected people has been underreported as many had the virus before there was testing or they sent people home who were sick without testing early in the pandemic, or they were asymptomatic. The mortality rate for those under 50 in Massachusetts who tested positive for COVID-19 is 0.2%. This percentage is overstated due to the underreported number of people who were exposed and almost all had an underlying health issue.

So, we need to protect those over age 65, those with underlying health issues, and those in LT health care facilities. People in those categories should continue to stay at home. If they were working before the pandemic, offer them LT disability pay to stay home until there is a vaccine or successful treatments.

People tend to key in on how many people died in an age demographic of their choosing to prove a point (not just here or pointed specifically @ you)... what seemingly gets lost in the shuffle is all the short term/long term health effects that are arising on a weekly basis for people of all ages with no pre-existing medical problems until they got Covid-19. Great, you didn’t die but could end up on blood thinning meds to prevent clots, on dialysis to keep your kidney functioning or unable to continue to work because your pulmonary function is in the toilet.

There are no simple answers here with so much still unknown...The emerging long-term complications of Covid-19, explained. These have much more of likelihood of impacting college campuses/sporting events decision making than focusing on just mortality rates.

 

[huskymedic]

>>MAAC Resumption of Athletic Competition Principles:

• The safety of student-athletes, coaches and staff should guide us as we look to reengage in athletic activities and competition. A measured approach to the startup of fall and winter sports should be taken so we don’t end up having to shut down sports again in the fall.
• COVID-19 will still be with us with the startup of the fall season and enhanced protocols will be needed for the foreseeable future that detail disinfectant processes for practice and training sites, athletic facilities and transportation systems. This adds to the strain on budgets and staffing. There remains the possibility that a ‘second wave’ of the virus may impact sports during the coming year requiring the cooperation of conference members to accommodate changes to schedules and post-season formats.
• The primacy of conference scheduling and championship opportunities for the student-athletes must be prioritized. The championship environment is an essential positive influence for the student-athletes.
• Disruptions in academic and athletic schedules may continue through fall and into winter sports. Conference members have agreed to work as a single entity in meeting these challenges and will not seek competitive or fiscal advantages at the expense of other conference member schools.
• It may be necessary that all student-athletes and personnel may be required to be tested for the COVID-19 virus, or antibody immunity in order to participate in athletic competition and practice.
• It can be anticipated that even with testing an athlete, coach, etc. will subsequently test positive for COVID-19 sometime after sports start up. Safety and communication protocols will be needed to inform persons in contact with the individual who tested positive.
• State and local authorities will have control over the startup of public events. The conference staff must manage differences in their approaches and any attendance limitations and be empowered to switch home sites as dictated by decisions of the governing authorities to maintain the integrity of conference competition.
• Non-conference scheduling may be limited to regional opponents for fall sports as different parts of the country may be hot spots for the virus even as the tri-state region may see the threat diminish in its intensity. <<

 

[huskymedic]

 

[billybud]

Those southern teams have done this before...

 

[Guapo]

Those southern teams have done this before...

UGA in Argonne; Tech in Atlanta.

Disgusting.

 

[billybud]

University of Alabama president Stuart R. Bell has also said the university’s plan is that “we’ll have a season and we’ll have fans as part of that season in our stadium.” Byrne said all parties are looking at all options should the stadium’s 101,821-fan capacity be limited because of the pandemic but didn’t have an answer for exactly which fans would receive access.

 

[billybud]

UGA in Argonne; Tech in Atlanta.

Disgusting.

Argonne? The U of Georgia is in Athens.

 

[billybud]

This is disgusting as well...

 

[Guapo]

Argonne? The U of Georgia is in Athens.

C’mon Billy Bud, know your football history. That photo was taken in 1918. UGA didn’t play because all their men were fighting in Europe. Meanwhile, Tech still played

In the 1919 game, Georgia fans had a banner that said the above, tech got super pissed and refused to play UGA again, in any sport, till 1921

 

[Husky25]

This is disgusting as well...

What's disgusting about a two month old photo taken 3 days before New York's SaH orders went into effect?? What am I missing?

 

[billybud]

C’mon Billy Bud, know your football history. That photo was taken in 1918. UGA didn’t play because all their men were fighting in Europe. Meanwhile, Tech still played

In the 1919 game, Georgia fans had a banner that said the above, tech got super pissed and refused to play UGA again, in any sport, till 1921

My grandpa fought in the Meuse-Argonne...as a kid in the early 1950's, I'd still see his army wool coat with patch hanging on a peg in his barn. The Big Red 1.

 

[Storrs South]

 

[huskymedic]