College Fans Contacting Recruits on Social Media: STOP IT!!!!!!!!

[BroadwayVa]

As important perhaps, is that is encourages athletes and others within the program to actually be in each other's presence and have real conversations. A wise coach, like ours, would pretty quickly surmise the greater value of that communication as a key part of team building.

Bigbird ---I had to read your posting three times--I guess I'm reading challenged. I agree with each and every word--Damn it!! I can't nit pick on anything.
I was watching a News group speaking about tweeting and why the nasty stuff can't/isn't being said face to face. That's even true with email but in Tweeting etc you get to diss a much larger audience.

 

[BroadwayVa]

I am a proud graduate of Illinois State University. Our teams are called The Redbirds. I am a large human. I will leave it to you to unravel the rest of the moniker mystery.

I think I got it you are one of the Munkins--who turned green as they entered OZ. I'm really good at unraveling clues.. I'm so good my teachers were always testing my intelligence!! I was a standout!!

 

[BigBird]

I think I got it you are one of the Munkins--who turned green as they entered OZ. I'm really good at unraveling clues.. I'm so good my teachers were always testing my intelligence!! I was a standout!!

Ugh. You found me out. Drat.

"They gave me an intelligence test; the results were negative."

 

[Charliebball]

I am a proud graduate of Illinois State University. Our teams are called The Redbirds. I am a large human. I will leave it to you to unravel the rest of the moniker mystery.

I'm thinking Kansas Jayhawk, Iowa Hawkeye, Boston College Eagle or Virginia Tech Hokiebird

 

[Tonyc]

Do you know whether recruits or current players actually read the comments on this board? I would be interested to know because if they do, perhaps that would temper some of the comments that are made here.

I know for a fact in the past AAU coaches, parents, recruits, and friends of recruits have read this board and they all have their own opinions. They come on here to see what fans are saying about the recruits.

 

[HuskyNan]

true, is the NCAA going to investigate BigBird, find his or her IP address, try to determine the actual name of the poster, then go through every list of booster club donations , only to find out they are not associated with the school they are promoting

I think not

No, what they do is contact the admin of the site to get the pertinent details.

Most boosters (an inconsistently applied term as determined by a capricious NCAA) that get into trouble are turned in by fans of opposing teams. It's the other teams' fans that scour bulletin boards looking for violations, then convince their school to file a complaint. As a previous poster has said, two thirds of the SEC complaint against UConn was comprised of posts from the Boneyard. It cost UConn hundreds of thousands of dollars to hire a compliance lawyer to respond to the complaint. The program's and university's reputations were hurt - as well as the reputations of unfairly accused players and parents - because a couple posters on the Boneyard couldn't contain their exuberance.

Maybe fans will get away with defying the NCAA rules but why would they put UConn at risk? Remember, Geno's program was turned in for giving French fries to a recruit, for heaven's sake.

DON'T "HELP" UCONN RECRUIT! It's against NCAA rules and the UConn Compliance Office has asked us, the Boneyard specifically, to stay out of the process. This after the great French fry/cardboard sign/phantom trip from Russia to Atlanta/Boneyard bragging fiasco of a few years ago. Don't give the whackadoos (you know who I'm taking about) any ammunition.

 

[Charliebball]

No, what they do is contact the admin of the site and get the pertinent details. And most boosters that get into trouble are turned in by fans of opposing teams. It's the other teams' fans that scour bulletin boards looking for violations, then convince their school to file a complaint. As a previous poster has said, two thirds of the SEC complaint against UConn was comprised of posts from the Boneyard. It cost UConn hundreds of thousands of dollars to hire a compliance lawyer to respond to the complaint and the program also hurt the university's reputation - and the reputation of unfairly accused players and parents - because a couple posters on the Boneyard couldn't contain their exuberance.

I'm not aware of anybody currently on this board that has contacted recruits..........there are however three folks who seem to be consistently doing this that consider themselves UConn fans.............as I've said there are others doing this that are fans of ND, SC, Tenn, Ohio St, MD, Louisville, Baylor, UT, UWash, etc so there's plenty of violators out there representing all of the big teams out there..............

 

[DaddyChoc]

I'm not aware of anybody currently on this board that has contacted recruits.....there are however three folks who seem to be consistently doing this that consider themselves UConn fans...as I've said there are others doing this that are fans of ND, SC, Tenn, Ohio St, MD, Louisville, Baylor, UT, UWash, etc so there's plenty of violators out there representing all of the big teams out there....

Charlie.... they're not UConn! When you're on Top everyone try to find a way to knock you do. Its easier when your own helps "the enemy"

I just don't understand how a few is trying to justify the problem of bothering recruits. #scary #sad #creepy #getalife

 

[Charliebball]

Charlie.... they're not UConn! When you're on Top everyone try to find a way to knock you do. Its easier when your own helps "the enemy"

I just don't understand how a few is trying to justify the problem of bothering recruits. #scary #sad #creepy #getalife

I would guess that these folks are totally unaware that what they are doing is wrong..........from their viewpoint they are just encouraging a great basketball player to enroll in their favorite school whether it be UConn or Notre Dame etc

 

[DaddyChoc]

I would guess that these folks are totally unaware that what they are doing is wrong.....from their viewpoint they are just encouraging a great basketball player to enroll in their favorite school whether it be UConn or Notre Dame etc

very possible

but the ones in this current thread are pushing back as well, an "Admin" chimed in and explained to us how the school contacts them after the NCAA contacts the school... doesnt get any more simple than that.

and if you want to help go on Twitter and let the "unaware" know as well... help your favorite team

 

[Charliebball]

very possible

but the ones in this current thread are pushing back as well, an "Admin" chimed in and explained to us how the school contacts them after the NCAA contacts the school... doesnt get any more simple than that.

and if you want to help go on Twitter and let the "unaware" know as well... help your favorite team

I've been holding off contacting these people as I am libertarian by nature but perhaps I will send them a friendly reminder........if Admin wants to handle this I will pass on the guilty party's addresses

 

[BroadwayVa]

bags27 said:
This is what I remember:
"Over the last 24 hours, the University of Connecticut, the American Athletic Conference and the NCAA have been working together to determine whether a violation occurred when head women's basketball coach Geno Auriemma spoke with Mo'ne Davis over the phone during the 2014 Little League World Series," Manuel said in a statement. "The NCAA has determined a secondary rules violation of bylaw 13.1.3.1 did occur and while UConn accepts this decision, we do not agree with it.

"Prior to attempting to reach Davis, Coach Auriemma checked with the UConn compliance department and was advised such a call would be permissible since Davis is not considered a prospective student-athlete by the NCAA and the call was to be congratulatory rather than recruiting in nature.
NCAA Hits UConn With Violation For Geno's Call To Mo'ne Davis

CajunHusky reply:
from the same article:
"... even though it was not Auriemma's intent to speak directly to Davis, the fact that he initiated the call simply to express support and congratulations obviously did not sit well with NCAA compliance"

"Before her team's semifinal game against Nevada, which Davis started, Auriemma placed a call to the Little League's administrative office, on behalf of a request from the Philadelphia 76ers, to say hello."

"The conversation between Auriemma and Davis was witnessed by those in the Little League's administrative office, where Davis was standing when the call came in. It was reported that nothing more than small talk took place between Davis and the Hall of Fame coach, who encouraged her to get a few hits."

Smoke and no fire---The smoke was because Geno , a head coach contacted a kid who stated she wanted to be a guard at Uconn, to congrat her for winning Little league BaseBall World Series--
Stupid noise, ignorant people denigrating the call, poorly informed media--mucha ado about nothing--that noise faded into the ether plasma.
But that was a phone call --not social media...

 

[BroadwayVa]

Do you know whether recruits or current players actually read the comments on this board? I would be interested to know because if they do, perhaps that would temper some of the comments that are made here.

Over they years Geno has stated --he does not read (at the time) fans comments in the courant--
but in media interviews, the Geno show CPTV or WFSB or others, reaction, while not directly mentioning, to the comments was clear . Either he or someone who relayed the comments to him reads the Boneyard, the Courant sports (reader comments).
Geno's kids are not prohibited from reading the Boneyard nor the newpaper sports sections--you can be a bit more that sure that some of them are reading that now.
If I were Gabby, KLS, Collier, and the new kids--I'd think I was pretty good after reading the Boneyard.

It is more than fair to say--they do read--and comments should be tempered --negative comments--keep the positive comments coming--it is alway good to know people think your are pretty good.

 

[HuskyNan]

Over they years Geno has stated --he does not read (at the time) fans comments in the courant--
but in media interviews, the Geno show CPTV or WFSB or others, reaction, while not directly mentioning, to the comments was clear . Either he or someone who relayed the comments to him reads the Boneyard, the Courant sports (reader comments).
Geno's kids are not prohibited from reading the Boneyard nor the newpaper sports sections--you can be a bit more that sure that some of them are reading that now.
If I were Gabby, KLS, Collier, and the new kids--I'd think I was pretty good after reading the Boneyard.

It is more than fair to say--they do read--and comments should be tempered --negative comments--keep the positive comments coming--it is alway good to know people think your are pretty good.

I can state with absolute certainty that parents and some players read the Boneyard. I know this because I spoke with a number of parents in Indy this year. The 'yard is also read by state and some national media writers, recruits, various bloggers, some AAU and/or high school coaches. I, personally, got interviewed by Morley Safer for the 60 Minutes show on the UConn women's program years ago but ended up on the editing room floor. But the 60 Minutes folks got my name from reading the Boneyard. You just never know.

 

[BroadwayVa]

I can state with absolute certainty that parents and some players read the Boneyard. I know this because I spoke with a number of parents in Indy this year. The 'yard is also read by state and some national media writers, recruits, various bloggers, some AAU and/or high school coaches. I, personally, got interviewed by Morley Safer for the 60 Minutes show on the UConn women's program years ago but ended up on the editing room floor. But the 60 Minutes folks got my name from reading the Boneyard. You just never know.

Nan--You chastised me, rightly, for comments about Diamond DeShields, and if I'm not mistaken about speaking about a team member (UC) that wasn't, as I believed, performing up to stuff. Never thinking the kids would be reading this. Obviously, it was something I would never say face to face with them--I have a bit more decency. Jeeze
Point is --since you know FACTUALLY that the Kids read this--it is only fair you occasionally remind us of that FACT -- BEFORE the FACT---and keep some of us from making fools of ourselves--while the UConn WBB is in our minds we are not always thinking of their presence on the Boneyard.

 

[DaddyChoc]

Nan--You chastised me, rightly, for comments about Diamond DeShields, and if I'm not mistaken about speaking about a team member (UC) that wasn't, as I believed, performing up to stuff. Never thinking the kids would be reading this. Obviously, it was something I would never say face to face with them--I have a bit more decency. Jeeze
Point is --since you know FACTUALLY that the Kids read this--it is only fair you occasionally remind us of that FACT -- BEFORE the FACT---and keep some of us from making fools of ourselves--while the UConn WBB is in our minds we are not always thinking of their presence on the Boneyard.

but we expect 16 yr old kids to be mature 24/7/365

 

[BigBird]

I can state with absolute certainty that parents and some players read the Boneyard. I know this because I spoke with a number of parents in Indy this year. The 'yard is also read by state and some national media writers, recruits, various bloggers, some AAU and/or high school coaches.... You just never know.

Nan, when I first joined the BY, I came from a couple of other boards that were "free fire zones." It was a big change, and the adjustment wasn't immediate. I thought back then that you were perhaps a bit of a control freak; a helicopter, or a mother hen.

Now, years later, it is very clear to me that UConn is a unique WBB program, and the BY is a unique fan board. It plays to a somewhat atypical audience. It requires a different level and type of management. I really appreciate all you do for us. The days of "free fire" boards, if not over, should be over. The risks are too high, and the rewards are too small.

Go Huskies!

 

[BroadwayVa]

but we expect 16 yr old kids to be mature 24/7/365

I really don't think so--but it sure appears that way--it's called the HUMAN condition--we expect more from others than ourselves.
Some kids are mature at 16 (whatever Mature really means)---in some cultures it only means OLD--I'm mature!!

 

[triaddukefan]

So UCONN players actually read this forum ??

hmmmmmm......

to a player who shall remain nameless

 

[Alydar]

No, what they do is contact the admin of the site to get the pertinent details.

And do the admins release the personal information of it's posters upon request? I may be wrong but I don't remember seeing anything in the board rules that says that the admins are free to dispense private information about their posters. I can understand if it involved a criminal investigation but the NCAA is a private party and has no more right to this information than I. Does this mean I can get anyone's name, email, etc. merely by asking?

I support the position that college athletes and their families have a right to privacy and I am uncomfortable with the idea of trying to contact them directly. But as soon as colleges put turnstiles at the door and started charging admission they turned college athletics into a multi-billion dollar business and is it really so strange that some fans consider the celebrities of this business public figures?

 

[UcMiami]

And do the admins release the personal information of it's posters upon request? I may be wrong but I don't remember seeing anything in the board rules that says that the admins are free to dispense private information about their posters. I can understand if it involved a criminal investigation but the NCAA is a private party and has no more right to this information than I. Does this mean I can get anyone's name, email, etc. merely by asking?

I support the position that college athletes and their families have a right to privacy and I am uncomfortable with the idea of trying to contact them directly. But as soon as colleges put turnstiles at the door and started charging admission they turned college athletics into a multi-billion dollar business and is it really so strange that some fans consider the celebrities of this business public figures?

And do the admins release the personal information of it's posters upon request? I may be wrong but I don't remember seeing anything in the board rules that says that the admins are free to dispense private information about their posters. I can understand if it involved a criminal investigation but the NCAA is a private party and has no more right to this information than I. Does this mean I can get anyone's name, email, etc. merely by asking?

I support the position that college athletes and their families have a right to privacy and I am uncomfortable with the idea of trying to contact them directly. But as soon as colleges put turnstiles at the door and started charging admission they turned college athletics into a multi-billion dollar business and is it really so strange that some fans consider the celebrities of this business public figures?

Unless specifically stated, there is no 'right to privacy' inherent in any message board that you post on, just as there is no privacy guarantee on anything else on-line - every purchase you make on the internet unless specifically identified is recorded by the seller and likely sold on as 'database' information for other sellers - that is why email addresses fill up quickly with unsolicited offers - political parties and charities being the worst offenders! When breaches of truly confidential information do occur, there is very little legal recourse for the individuals and generally there remedy is a voluntary action by the entity that was breached as part of a PR effort to beg for your forgiveness. Data mining being a business that is huge in the connected world.

On your second paragraph, yes I agree, it is a minefield, but it has nothing to do with the turnstiles - it has to do with fandom. As soon as the competition is open to the public whether charged or not, it becomes an issue. But like hiring security to protect both the fans and the athletes during the competition, the schools do try to provide other levels of security as well. As with every other part of our society, it can never be perfect, but responsible fans, like responsible citizens, need to be part of that protection.

 

[BroadwayVa]

So UCONN players actually read this forum ??

hmmmmmm.

to a player who shall remain nameless

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Me too---I miss the entire team of Soph, Jr, Sr, and newbies --that shall be fixed in Nov, I hope!!

 

[BroadwayVa]

Unless specifically stated, there is no 'right to privacy' inherent in any message board that you post on, just as there is no privacy guarantee on anything else on-line - every purchase you make on the internet unless specifically identified is recorded by the seller and likely sold on as 'database' information for other sellers - that is why email addresses fill up quickly with unsolicited offers - political parties and charities being the worst offenders! When breaches of truly confidential information do occur, there is very little legal recourse for the individuals and generally there remedy is a voluntary action by the entity that was breached as part of a PR effort to beg for your forgiveness. Data mining being a business that is huge in the connected world.

On your second paragraph, yes I agree, it is a minefield, but it has nothing to do with the turnstiles - it has to do with fandom. As soon as the competition is open to the public whether charged or not, it becomes an issue. But like hiring security to protect both the fans and the athletes during the competition, the schools do try to provide other levels of security as well. As with every other part of our society, it can never be perfect, but responsible fans, like responsible citizens, need to be part of that protection.

Data mining isn't new--just the area which is mined. The internet makes it almost a gift. If you want Privacy you can stay off the internet or buy top flight SECURITY program/apps

The second highlighted is the one that bugs me---No matter who you are or where you are--no one will ever protect you more effectively than your self--know who you correspond with, where you are, --there are 100 other things you should do to protect YOURSELF--still, people sue others for not doing what they don't do for themselves--(usually if they survive)..

Today Security is a real pain in the butt---but I wouldn't want it any other way. I thank security guards and Homeland folks at the airport--even when delayed--I still breath because they do their jobs.

 

[BroadwayVa]

And do the admins release the personal information of it's posters upon request? I may be wrong but I don't remember seeing anything in the board rules that says that the admins are free to dispense private information about their posters. I can understand if it involved a criminal investigation but the NCAA is a private party and has no more right to this information than I. Does this mean I can get anyone's name, email, etc. merely by asking?

I support the position that college athletes and their families have a right to privacy and I am uncomfortable with the idea of trying to contact them directly. But as soon as colleges put turnstiles at the door and started charging admission they turned college athletics into a multi-billion dollar business and is it really so strange that some fans consider the celebrities of this business public figures?

I too have issues with PRIVACY being usurped. If in doing what the NCAA thinks is essential to protect College players or potential recruits that creates a Personal Privacy matter for you--you can sue everyone and every outlet involve, often even if you think you signed away that right. But just the act of investigating and discussing your contacts (if ever there is one) does not violate your privacy--. In the stone age--lawyers would not take a case of little merit--or that you could not show definitely how you were damaged--but it is a new world, even with lawyers.

 

[HuskyNan]

And do the admins release the personal information of it's posters upon request? I may be wrong but I don't remember seeing anything in the board rules that says that the admins are free to dispense private information about their posters. I can understand if it involved a criminal investigation but the NCAA is a private party and has no more right to this information than I. Does this mean I can get anyone's name, email, etc. merely by asking?

No, I do not give out personal info to anyone outside law enforcement. What I do is take contact info then PM the poster with that info. I pass on any message but that's it. If the poster wants ignore the message, I won't do anything further.

Having said that, if anyone is breaking a law, threatening, or harassing posters, I will absolutely comply with requests from law enforcement for contact info.

 

[HuskyNan]

Nan, when I first joined the BY, I came from a couple of other boards that were "free fire zones." It was a big change, and the adjustment wasn't immediate. I thought back then that you were perhaps a bit of a control freak; a helicopter, or a mother hen.

Now, years later, it is very clear to me that UConn is a unique WBB program, and the BY is a unique fan board. It plays to a somewhat atypical audience. It requires a different level and type of management. I really appreciate all you do for us. The days of "free fire" boards, if not over, should be over. The risks are too high, and the rewards are too small.

Go Huskies!

My philosophy is that you can say just about anything but there's no need to be insulting or obnoxious to get the message across. I never understood why some people need to take a pugnacious stance in discussions. I appreciate that the vast majority of folks here can discuss topics like adults.

 

[Charliebball]

Texas has moved ahead of UConn in volume of fan/social media interactions.........the players don't seem to mind and the NCAA couldn't possibly go after all the fans.......so it continues...............

Carol Polumbo‏@CarolPolumbo
Hey @iball_crzy Meg, we are hooked on you. #HookEm. Burnt orange is the best fall color. Dab it!#TexasWomensBasketball

 

[RockyMTblue2]

She retweeted this Orange photo op and one could hardly blame her. All our youngsters have grown up in a media and internet besotted "culture" in which the icons are those who have abandoned cultural norms - like clothes - in order to first gain and then retain notoriety. This just looks like harmless fun when measured against that. I do find counterproductive and repugnant the fans who tweet flat out begging. The other day one recruit put out a request that people stop and when she knows she'll tell everyone. Right on.

I hope the recruits do appreciate that the perceived power they have goes poof as soon as they commit, because they become captive to the NCAA's and conference transfer rules.

 

[Vowelguy]

Texas has moved ahead of UConn in volume of fan/social media interactions....the players don't seem to mind and the NCAA couldn't possibly go after all the fans..so it continues....

The NCAA doesnt need to go after individual fans. It just tells the school: get your boosters in line, or else.

 

[SCGamecock]

Texas has moved ahead of UConn in volume of fan/social media interactions....the players don't seem to mind and the NCAA couldn't possibly go after all the fans..so it continues.....

Carol Polumbo‏@CarolPolumbo
Hey @iball_crzy Meg, we are hooked on you. #HookEm. Burnt orange is the best fall color. Dab it!#TexasWomensBasketball

Wow, you see this kind of pandering in the men's sports... and was always glad that you didn't see this in women's sports. So long to that idea!