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Cole, Gaff, Martin, Akok, Sanogo

He's not an "elite" passer. Again, there's an example of folks here crowning him.

He needs to work on his D. "Flashes?" Maybe. He couldn't get off the court without fouling too much last year, and many of those fouls were unnecessary and way too far from the basket.

Does he currently have a role? Yes. Can it increase? Yes. Can it decrease? yes.
That's not crowning him as anything by saying he's an elite passer. It does nothing for his game if he doesn't start taking 3's and the defender can play 10 feet off him. Until then all the passing skills in the world won't do him any good just like his athleticism doesn't help getting to the rim for the same reason
 
That's not crowning him as anything by saying he's an elite passer. It does nothing for his game if he doesn't start taking 3's and the defender can play 10 feet off him. Until then all the passing skills in the world won't do him any good just like his athleticism doesn't help getting to the rim for the same reason
If he's a brick-layer, he shouldn't be taking 3's in games until he's figured it out in the gym. And he's not an "elite" passer. Stop saying that. Last year, he averaged almost as many turnovers as assists per game - 1.2/1.6
 
Neither impress me anymore, but Polley can at least be relied upon to shoot more and shoot better. Also, he is less prone to bad fouls on the defensive end. If I had to choose one right now, it's Polley. That could change though. You're asking me to split hairs. Ultimately, when I watch games (and I watch them all), I curse less at Polley.
Polley is supposed to be good at one thing, shooting and he's not good at that. He's a liability on defense. With Jackson you know you're getting better defense, rebounding, passing, ball handling. If you have
 
Jackson is absolutely terrified to shoot the ball. If Gaffney continues to fill it up AJ will see his minutes drop significantly.

He can almost read AJ’s mind. “Everyone thinks I can’t shoot. If I do shoot they’ll know it.”

Per my previous post in this thread, I think our shooting isn’t dire as most do, but that is with Gaffney on the floor.
 
Polley is supposed to be good at one thing, shooting and he's not good at that. He's a liability on defense. With Jackson you know you're getting better defense, rebounding, passing, ball handling. If you have
Did you see Jax's stats I just posted from last year? He's also a liability on D. He's not a better passer. And are you even watching these games? Eye test fails as well.

3 point % was .118
More fouls per game than points - 2.8/2.7
Almost as many turnovers as assists per game - 1.2/1.6
 
If he's a brick-layer, he shouldn't be taking 3's in games until he's figured it out in the gym. And he's not an "elite" passer. Stop saying that. Last year, he averaged almost as many turnovers as assists per game - 1.2/1.6
I'm just going to move on and enjoy my night, it's clear you're not going into this with an open mind and any opinion other than Andre Jackson is not a D1 basketball player is wrong. You can continue to come here and take your "victory" laps that Andre sucks, I suspect we won't be seeing you very often in post-game threads
 
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this may end up being our best lineup. that being said, i'd like to see some of the small-ball lineups once hawkins gets back. hurley has basically played two bigs 100% of the first two games -- i am not mad about that (our front court is our strength and they have to be able to guard smaller guys) but curious about the versatility of this squad.
 
He does suck. I was just being nice. And that doesn't mean I don't think he has the ability to improve. And many here crowned him way too early, and won't listen to anyone who questions his ability. You can't all be his NIL agent.
You don't even want to wish him a happy 20th birthday?
That'd be "nice."
 
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this may end up being our best lineup. that being said, i'd like to see some of the small-ball lineups once hawkins gets back. hurley has basically played two bigs 100% of the first two games -- i am not mad about that (our front court is our strength and they have to be able to guard smaller guys) but curious about the versatility of this squad.
it's not very versatile when whaley gives you 2 pts and 1 reb as the starting PF that's for sure
 
I'm just going to move on and enjoy my night, it's clear you're not going into this with an open mind and any opinion other than Andre Jackson is not a D1 basketball player is wrong. You can continue to come here and take your "victory" laps that Andre sucks, I suspect we won't be seeing you very often in post-game threads
Enjoy your night my friend. You will be hearing from me after every game. I hope my critiques of Ajax become incorrect. I will gladly admit if I'm wrong...I don't think you will though.
 
He's not an "elite" passer. Again, there's an example of folks here crowning him. Almost as many turnovers as assists per game - 1.2/1.6

He needs to work on his D. "Flashes?" Maybe. He couldn't get off the court without fouling too much last year, and many of those fouls were unnecessary and way too far from the basket. He averaged more fouls per game last year than points.

Does he currently have a role? Yes. Can it increase? Yes. Can it decrease? yes.
I'd say Andre has excellent court vision and he is a good passer. I think his turnover percentages are that way because he too ofter tries to thread the needle and make the high degree of difficulty pass too often. He needs to curtail that for sure.
 
Did you see Jax's stats I just posted from last year? He's also a liability on D. He's not a better passer. And are you even watching these games? Eye test fails as well.

3 point % was .118
More fouls per game than points - 2.8/2.7
Almost as many turnovers as assists per game - 1.2/1.6
He passes the eye test with flying colors. If you look at statistics you'll see Polley is average at best. Go through each individual game and look at Polley's statistics. He had two big games that brought up his scoring average. He had several games of 0's across the board. Jackson also missed ~4 games. No one expects him to score like they do Polley, but he does a lot more on both ends
 
it's not very versatile when whaley gives you 2 pts and 1 reb as the starting PF that's for sure
He is also our best defender. He'll probably average 6 and 8
 
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He is also our best defender. He'll probably average 6 and 8
that would be great but so far it's 5 and 2 against the softest of cupcakes. akok has totally eclipsed him by comparison thus far.
 
Jackson is absolutely terrified to shoot the ball. If Gaffney continues to fill it up AJ will see his minutes drop significantly.

He can almost read AJ’s mind. “Everyone thinks I can’t shoot. If I do shoot they’ll know it.”

Per my previous post in this thread, I think our shooting isn’t dire as most do, but that is with Gaffney on the floor.
Agreed. As of now Gaff is lighting it up. Gaffney would take Polleys minutes
 
Do you think Polley should play over him?
Actually I don't think either Polley or Jackson deserve alot of playing time at the moment - even while we wait to see Hawkins. Polley can't play decent defense and Dre has no offensive game to speak of - he is even missing gimme layups! And while Dre dibbles around the perimeter, defenses collapse and double/triple team in the paint. Even in limited action, Diggins looks more comfortable with the ball than Dre does.
 
Jackson still hasn’t shown me he can’t shoot, he just chooses to not shoot. Jury is still out on him, but my god I hope he figures it out.
 
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After 2 games I'd like to see the rotation look something like this. Can trim down to 9 come Big East play, and maybe Akok takes over the starting 4 spot or Hawkins the starting 2 spot by then too

PG: Cole (25), Gaffney (10), Diggins (5)
SG: Gaffney (15), Hawkins (20), Jackson (5)
SF: Martin (15), Jackson (15), Polley (10)
PF: Whaley (10), Akok (20), Martin (5), Johnson (5)
C: Sanogo (25), Whaley (15)
Martin only getting 20 minutes and Cole 25? Not going to happen even in your best dreams. They both will be on the court for 30 plus minutes when the big games come up. Those 2 and Sanogo are integral parts of our success,.
 
Enjoy your night my friend. You will be hearing from me after every game. I hope my critiques of Ajax become incorrect. I will gladly admit if I'm wrong...I don't think you will though.
You’re weird man lol
 
Martin only getting 20 minutes and Cole 25? Not going to happen even in your best dreams. They both will be on the court for 30 plus minutes when the big games come up. Those 2 and Sanogo are integral parts of our success,.
Yeah Hurley just confirmed as much in his presser. Said he expects RJ, Sanogo and Terese to each be playing 32-33 minutes or more by Atlantis.
 
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