Coaching Hot Seat 2021 New

[Coler]

While I have seen few games, the few I saw with Tim in the past, I think the large rotations in and out is his "thing". CTT at ASU has (at times) done something related, with mixed success.

Arizona played every one of 15 players (and 14 scored) in a rout of Texas Southern last night. Of course, Stony Brook is much better than Texas Southern (coached, if you don't know, by Cynthia Cooper-Dyke).

Chelsea is a good name. I'm not sure why Tammi Reiss, but I'm open to anybody that looks "good". The only retread, even though she is a bit long in the tooth, that I wouldn't object to is Gail G. She could probably accomplish some rebuilding.

Tammi Reiss has Rhode Island trending up. I think she’s doing good things.

My problem is that he is not giving the players any time to get into the flow of the game and he’s not using a stable 5 that will gel and learn to play with each other which is important. There’s no reason for 14 players to play in a close game when they’re not on the same page, hell we don’t even have 5 players on the same page.

That’s a coaching issue. The times he has taken over for CVS was later in the season and she had already a set rotation, so it wasn’t as hard to incorporate more players into that rotation.

Im just flabbergasted by what I’ve seen.

 

[cancontent]

From an available coaching option-the question of Matthew Mitchell's health if good, he has to be a viable candidate for any P5 opening.
While not a popular name on this site, Joanne P McCallie still has a good resume that should warrant a look at many P5 schools. I know Gail G keeps getting mentioned but it seems odd to me that (she is now an assistant at Kentucky maybe she have sway over Kyra to get that program back on track) that she hasn't landed a top job at a P5 or Big East school. We seem to value her potential more than any P5 AD.

He's been interviewed and has said he's not focused on getting back into coaching. He said the time off due to the brain issue had him re-evaluate things and he found his heart wasn't into coaching at the moment. I recall he was working on a book and focusing on his family.

I had a link to the article posted somewhere here on the BY in a previous thread, however now it's behind a paywall when I found it on line.

 

[Rooster C.]

Kristy Curry despite finally making the NCAAT last year, lost two good players to the transfer portal and simply and has not done enough to earn another extension.

I think she's safe for now. Her record of late has not been terrible - 7th or 8th in conference 3 of last 4 years. When you consider SC,TN,KY,TA&M,Ark,and Ga then 7th seems about right. Recruiting has been okay with about one Top-100 recruit each year. She will also benefit this year from relatively new coaches at Kentucky,Miss. State, Vandy, Florida, and Auburn.

 

[Rooster C.]

The other coach too watch is Kyra Elzy at Kentucky who underachieved last year with Rhyne Howard and has not looked good this year with a solid roster.

I totally agree with you on this one. It should be obvious to her by now that Treasure Hunt should be starting amongst other things.

 

[Vowelguy]

Tina Thompson #1 with a bullet
UVA just lost by 20 to UCF and is 0-3

 

[Dillon77]

Tina Thompson #1 with a bullet
UVA just lost by 20 to UCF and is 0-3

And to makes things worse, UVA heads out to the West Coast to take on UCLA and Fullerton.

When they come home, they play a 4-0 Rhode Island team that is coached by former Wahoo Tammi Reiss, who has that team on the upswing. That could make a fire a wildfire.

Pretty sure TT's contract runs through 2023. Thompson was UVA AD Carla William's first hire. Can Williams acknowledge that this isn't looking good and find the resolve and resources to move on?

 

[Coler]

And to makes things worse, UVA heads out to the West Coast to take on UCLA and Fullerton.

When they come home, they play a 4-0 Rhode Island team that is coached by former Wahoo Tammi Reiss, who has that team on the upswing. That could make a fire a wildfire.

Pretty sure TT's contract runs through 2023. Thompson was UVA AD Carla William's first hire. Can Williams acknowledge that this isn't looking good and find the resolve and resources to move on?

I wonder if Reiss will get a call whenever UVA opens. Although she’s on my wishlist for Rutgers.

GG would be a good hire for UVA too.

 

[JellyBean]

Coach Lindsay Whalen is safe. Not sure why she is on the Hot Seat. She has Minnesota's best recruiting class, in the history of the program, coming in next year. She is off to a 3-1 start heading into a battle with our beloved UConn squad. She is safe.

 

[dws3665]

Coach Lindsay Whalen is safe. Not sure why she is on the Hot Seat. She has Minnesota's best recruiting class, in the history of the program, coming in next year. She is off to a 3-1 start heading into a battle with our beloved UConn squad. She is safe.

Perhaps an over-reaction to the first game home loss to Jacksonville.

 

[azfan]

Coach Lindsay Whalen is safe. Not sure why she is on the Hot Seat. She has Minnesota's best recruiting class, in the history of the program, coming in next year. She is off to a 3-1 start heading into a battle with our beloved UConn squad. She is safe.

She has a budding star in J Powell. She put on a show in the Gopher's victory over the Sun Devils last week. Extremely quick and really can create her own shot. Also I thought her defense was solid although it's hard to tell against the anemic Sun Devil "offense".

 

[DefenseBB]

Coach Lindsay Whalen is safe. Not sure why she is on the Hot Seat. She has Minnesota's best recruiting class, in the history of the program, coming in next year. She is off to a 3-1 start heading into a battle with our beloved UConn squad. She is safe.

Before we get all gooey over Lindsay, let's see how the whole season plays out. Saying she's 3-1 against the likes of Jacksonville, ASU, GW and American U is not exactly a ringing endorsement of coaching prowess. Plus, this whole transfer business could further usurp her squad at the end of the season. Most of this forum will get a good (or should I say bad) look at her this Saturday.

for @Rooster C. at the UConn-Ark game, I sat next two women from Alabama who came up to the game and we talked about Kristy. One of the women is a season ticket holder and said Kristy, despite last year, is not high on the AD's list of success considering the money spent and the results achieved. She didn't think the contract was going to be renewed. I will take her perspective on this.

 

[Rooster C.]

Not sure why she is on the Hot Seat.

Perhaps an over-reaction to the first game home loss to Jacksonville.

Before we get all gooey over Lindsay, let's see how the whole season plays out. Saying she's 3-1 against the likes of Jacksonville, ASU, GW and American U is not exactly a ringing endorsement of coaching prowess. Plus, this whole transfer business could further usurp her squad at the end of the season. Most of this forum will get a good (or should I say bad) look at her this Saturday.

To be clear, I was the one who put her on the list. It is NOT because of that home loss although it is indicative of her lack of success.
Her predecessor four year record was 82–47 (.636) and 38–30 (.559) in conference. Minnesota finished 6th,5th,10th, and tied for 3rd including a 2nd round NCAA tournament appearance Stollings final year which I assume wasn't deemed good enough to be retained. Under Whalen their record over 3 years is 44–37 (.543) and 20–31 (.392) in conference. Her best season was her first when she inherited previous coach's players. She has gone from tied for 6th to 11th and 10th.
No Top-100 recruits in 2018, #76 Jasmine Powell in 2019, #68 Alexia Smith and #94 Erin Hedman 2020, #98 Katie Borowicz 2021 (her first MN recruit) and yes, 3 very good recruits for 2022 all from Minnesota. More importantly are all of the great Minnesota players she has missed out on during her tenure. Even with that very good 2022 class that will be the beginning of year 5 and freshmen for the most part don't pay dividends for at least a year or two so like year 6 or 7 ?
In the meantime most of the conference is getting better and it's hard to see a dramatic turnaround anytime soon. How many years should she get compared to the previous coach if that's the criteria for success?

 

[Rooster C.]

Kristy, despite last year, is not high on the AD's list of success considering the money spent and the results achieved. She didn't think the contract was going to be renewed. I will take her perspective on this.

I will agree with the fan's perspective but not agree that it's warranted unless you are pretty certain that there's someone out there who can improve things. As you know many schools have pulled that trigger only to have buyer's remorse two years later. How many "good" former P5 head coaches are currently unemployed to choose from? Or you could try the old hire an assistant from another program or head coach from a smaller school route but haven't they already been pretty well picked over? The handful who would be somewhat of a "sure bet" (no such thing) will be in demand from more attractive school destinations no doubt.
What I'm getting at is that the likelihood of the program getting better under a new coach is negligible at best. The ONLY coaches I advocate getting rid of are those whose winning percentage are at the bottom of all P5 programs and only after they've had 3 years to show progress or lack thereof.

 

[DefenseBB]

To be clear, I was the one who put her on the list. It is NOT because of that home loss although it is indicative of her lack of success.
Her predecessor four year record was 82–47 (.636) and 38–30 (.559) in conference. Minnesota finished 6th,5th,10th, and tied for 3rd including a 2nd round NCAA tournament appearance Stollings final year which I assume wasn't deemed good enough to be retained. Under Whalen their record over 3 years is 44–37 (.543) and 20–31 (.392) in conference. Her best season was her first when she inherited previous COACHES SOFT OOC schedule.

Um, as a newer member of the board, l laud you passion but please double check your assumptions with facts or known data. Stollings left Minn for more money at Texas Tech. She also was notorious for scheduling cream puffs in her OOC to pad her wins. Heck, go look at her year by year game results at both Minn and Texas Tech. While most of the astute WCBB fans see that or look on Massey or WarranNolan to see SOS and the ratings, the lazy AP Coaches and writers do not and they saw Lindsay’s 12-0 record with Stollings lame opponents and with her veteran players that Whalen inherited and all thought Lindsay was good and she got an extension in Feb that 1st year. Utterly ridiculous.

Now as far as using Top 100 rankings as proof, that is really only effective if you garner Top 20 players as many of the prior BY posts over the years on the rankings of HG extrapolated for program success is not correlated. But yes, having talent is better than not having talent. But you telling me “hey they have #98 in from 2021” and #28, 39, 55 for 2022 as proof she’s good is not swaying me.
Last, I will absolutely listen to a season ticket holder of a team and her Alma mater on what the prevailing view is on that coach over a fan who has no insight of that team.

 

[JellyBean]

Perhaps an over-reaction to the first game home loss to Jacksonville.

You weren't the only one.

 

[JellyBean]

Before we get all gooey over Lindsay, let's see how the whole season plays out. Saying she's 3-1 against the likes of Jacksonville, ASU, GW and American U is not exactly a ringing endorsement of coaching prowess. Plus, this whole transfer business could further usurp her squad at the end of the season. Most of this forum will get a good (or should I say bad) look at her this Saturday.

for @Rooster C. at the UConn-Ark game, I sat next two women from Alabama who came up to the game and we talked about Kristy. One of the women is a season ticket holder and said Kristy, despite last year, is not high on the AD's list of success considering the money spent and the results achieved. She didn't think the contract was going to be renewed. I will take her perspective on this.

Good points. But Minnesota is 3-1 none the less and going into a battle with the #2 in the nation. Coach Whalen is putting a decent team together.

 

[JellyBean]

To be clear, I was the one who put her on the list. It is NOT because of that home loss although it is indicative of her lack of success.
Her predecessor four year record was 82–47 (.636) and 38–30 (.559) in conference. Minnesota finished 6th,5th,10th, and tied for 3rd including a 2nd round NCAA tournament appearance Stollings final year which I assume wasn't deemed good enough to be retained. Under Whalen their record over 3 years is 44–37 (.543) and 20–31 (.392) in conference. Her best season was her first when she inherited previous coach's players. She has gone from tied for 6th to 11th and 10th.
No Top-100 recruits in 2018, #76 Jasmine Powell in 2019, #68 Alexia Smith and #94 Erin Hedman 2020, #98 Katie Borowicz 2021 (her first MN recruit) and yes, 3 very good recruits for 2022 all from Minnesota. More importantly are all of the great Minnesota players she has missed out on during her tenure. Even with that very good 2022 class that will be the beginning of year 5 and freshmen for the most part don't pay dividends for at least a year or two so like year 6 or 7 ?
In the meantime most of the conference is getting better and it's hard to see a dramatic turnaround anytime soon. How many years should she get compared to the previous coach if that's the criteria for success?

Coach Stollings did well here in Minnesota. It was odd not seeing her come back but that is the nature of the business. Coach Whalen has some pieces in place and they are getting better each year, which is the goal of any program. I do know that with Stollings players Whalen had a pretty good run. Those players left and Coach Whalen had to move on. As for missing out on some of the state's great talent. LOL. Must have miss the part about how she (Whalen) has the programs best recruiting class in history coming in next year. Anyway not sure who comes up with those terms but all I do know is, not all talent stays at home. Some kids want to get out and go see other places. Some kids have goals of playing elsewhere. That is not Coach Whalen's fault. Kids either have a desire to stay home and play for the home team or they go elsewhere. Nothing wrong with that. How many years should she get compared to the previous coach? Who knows. That is up the AD and the boosters. If they see a steady progression, all is good. If there is a huge drop off and things look awkward and the program is a hot mess, then the AD will probably hear from the boosters and then make the call. But for the most part, Coach Whalen, in this case, is safe.

 

[Rooster C.]

But you telling me “hey they have #98 in from 2021” and #28, 39, 55 for 2022 as proof she’s good is not swaying me.

I wasn't saying she was good, just the opposite. I did say that her 2022 recruiting class was good is all.

 

[Rooster C.]

Now as far as using Top 100 rankings as proof,

I wasn't but all of the teams at the top echelon are absolutely loaded with Top-100 recruits. Nearly impossible to get in to the Sweet 16 and especially beyond that w/o them. Possible? Yes. But that would be the exception

 

[Rooster C.]

please double check your assumptions with facts or known data.

I absolutely DID make an assumption about Stollings leaving but I did use known data of wins - losses and winning percentage. I did not factor in ooc schedule because Baylor and others have done that for years as well as UConn usually playing in creampuff conferences that guarantee them almost 20 wins each year. As for P5 conferences the proof is in how you do in conference anyway which is why I included both statistics.

 

[Plebe]

I absolutely DID make an assumption about Stollings leaving but I did use known data of wins - losses and winning percentage. I did not factor in ooc schedule because Baylor and others have done that for years as well as UConn usually playing in creampuff conferences that guarantee them almost 20 wins each year. As for P5 conferences the proof is in how you do in conference anyway which is why I included both statistics.

You have some nerve pulling UConn into that discussion. In no way does what Stollings did in her nonconference schedule compare to what UConn's schedules were like since 2014. Go back and look at the rankings of overall SOS in those years, and compare UConn's SOS to Stollings'. UConn always managed to have one of the top SOS rankings in the country regardless of what conference they were in. So that pretty much blows your argument to bits.

 

[Rooster C.]

Coach Whalen has some pieces in place and they are getting better each year, which is the goal of any program.

Not accurate. She went from 21 -11/9 - 9 to 16 - 15/
5 - 12 to 7 - 11/6 - 10. Yes, not all talent stays home but in order to turn around a program you do need to get that ONE super talented player locally to stay local.

 

[Rooster C.]

You have some nerve pulling UConn into that discussion. In no way does what Stollings did in her nonconference schedule compare to what UConn's schedules were like since 2014. Go back and look at the rankings of overall SOS in those years, and compare UConn's SOS to Stollings'. UConn always managed to have one of the top SOS rankings in the country regardless of what conference they were in. So that pretty much blows your argument to bits.

In P5 conferences nearly every week is a dogfight of 2 or 3 tough games decided by a handful of points. SOS is heavily weighted in favor of playing a handful of ranked opponents. It's nice to be well rested between a handful of tough opponets/games every year and for most years those are played at home.
And I wasn't comparing UConn's scheduling to Stollings but to Baylor and Mulkey's scheduling.

 

[Plebe]

In P5 conferences nearly every week is a dogfight of 2 or 3 tough games decided by a handful of points. SOS is heavily weighted in favor of playing a handful of ranked opponents. It's nice to be well rested between a handful of tough opponets/games every year and for most years those are played at home.
And I wasn't comparing UConn's scheduling to Stollings but to Baylor and Mulkey's scheduling.

Please spare us the tired clichés. You're not gonna tell me that Clemson and Virginia and Pitt and Auburn and Florida are "dogfights". South Florida just got through taking Tennessee all the way to the wire -- that's the same Tennessee team that just beat South Carolina last year. Quit fetishizing the power 5.

And there's no "weighting" of SOS in favor of ranked opponents. I don't know who told you that but it's completely false. I'm beginning to agree with my colleague @DefenseBB that facts and logic really are not happening for you.

 

[nwhoopfan]

So...Nancy Fahey should be at the top of this list. 6-64 (.086) in conference in 4 years at Illinois. I thought Jody Wynn was bad, she had about twice that many conference wins in the same time frame. Tonight Illinois lost at home, by 9, to previously winless SIU Edwardsville...who previously lost to lowly Kansas by 36. Finished 14th or 13th each year in the B1G. That she still has a job tells you absolutely nobody cares about WBB in Champaign.

 

[Rooster C.]

You're not gonna tell me that Clemson and Virginia and Pitt and Auburn and Florida are "dogfights".

First off, I respect both of you and your opinions.
No, not saying the teams you mentioned are dogfights,that's why Auburn replaced their coach and Florida well, is to be determined now that their coach is also gone. I was the one who put Pitt and Virginia on the list. But neither would I compare playing NC and ND, or Georgia and Texas A&M, or Michigan and Iowa, to any teams in the AA other than the team you singled out. UCF and Tulane look better this year but that's this year. When it comes to at-large bids how many teams from UConn's conference get bids outside of USF on average compared to the P5 invites? I'm being objective here. I admire UConn and what they've accomplished as well as many other teams. I'm just saying it's a very weak conference that if Maryland,Louisville,Oregon, or many others played in then they would also be undefeated in that conference.

that's the same Tennessee team that just beat South Carolina last year

Hardly. Rennia Davis, Rae Burrell, and Kasiyahna Kushkituah accounted for a combined 50 pts, 21 rebounds, and 9 assissts in that victory over SC none of who were in the game vs USF

 

[Plebe]

First off, I respect both of you and your opinions.
No, not saying the teams you mentioned are dogfights,that's why Auburn replaced their coach and Florida well, is to be determined now that their coach is also gone. I was the one who put Pitt and Virginia on the list. But neither would I compare playing NC and ND, or Georgia and Texas A&M, or Michigan and Iowa, to any teams in the AA other than the team you singled out. UCF and Tulane look better this year but that's this year. When it comes to at-large bids how many teams from UConn's conference get bids outside of USF on average compared to the P5 invites? I'm being objective here. I admire UConn and what they've accomplished as well as many other teams. I'm just saying it's a very weak conference that if Maryland,Louisville,Oregon, or many others played in then they would also be undefeated in that conference.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

You've been hanging around too much at Volnation. All the more reason why your protestations of "respect" ring completely hollow. Why else would you bring up UConn's conference affiliation in a completely irrelevant discussion about Stollings?

Further evidence of your ill-informedness is that you seem unaware that UConn for years was in a conference that regularly sent 8 or 9 teams to the NCAA tournament. Give yourself a history lesson and go back and count how many wins UConn racked up during that period, and how many undefeated seasons they achieved despite being in a "good" conference.

But since I doubt you really care about facts, you're probably better off just spinning the same tired tropes on Volnation, where your schtick is a better fit.

 

[UConnCat]

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

You've been hanging around too much at Volnation. All the more reason why your protestations of "respect" ring completely hollow. Why else would you bring up UConn's conference affiliation in a completely irrelevant discussion about Stollings?

Further evidence of your ill-informedness is that you seem unaware that UConn for years was in a conference that regularly sent 8 or 9 teams to the NCAA tournament. Give yourself a history lesson and go back and count how many wins UConn racked up during that period, and how many undefeated seasons they achieved despite being in a "good" conference.

But since I doubt you really care about facts, you're probably better off just spinning the same tired tropes on Volnation, where your schtick is a better fit.

Ooooh. I'll help.

Back when UConn played in the Big East Part une, they won 90 consecutive games. The 90-game winning streak spanned 3 seasons -- 2008-2009, 2009-2010 and 2010-2011 -- and UConn did not lose a conference game. For those 3 seasons combined, the Big East sent more teams to the NCAA tournament than any conference in the country. More than the SEC, more than the Big 12, more than the ACC and more than the PAC12. From the 2007-2008 season through the 2010-2011 season, UConn lost one regular season conference game (Rutgers in 2008). Again, during that stretch, the Big East sent more teams to the NCAA tournament than any conference in the country.

 

[KnightBridgeAZ]

Ooooh. I'll help.

Back when UConn played in the Big East Part une, they won 90 consecutive games. The 90-game winning streak spanned 3 seasons -- 2008-2009, 2009-2010 and 2010-2011 -- and UConn did not lose a conference game. For those 3 seasons combined, the Big East sent more teams to the NCAA tournament than any conference in the country. More than the SEC, more than the Big 12, more than the ACC and more than the PAC12. From the 2007-2008 season through the 2010-2011 season, UConn lost one regular season conference game (Rutgers in 2008). Again, during that stretch, the Big East sent more teams to the NCAA tournament than any conference in the country.

A lot of folks don't really realize how exceptional UConn is. A look at their win / loss record is all that is needed. And playing one of the toughest schedules in the country year in and year out, I do not remember a year the UConn schedule was not in the top 5

What I referenced in a different thread was that Geno certainly did play some creampuffs (mixed in with some very good teams) out of conference when he was in the old Big East. Now that he plays so many in conference, he has taken an already respective OOC schedule and stepped it up a notch.

What is true is that UConn is not the only team that would likely have gone undefeated in the American and now the Big East. There are not many, but the "top" teams such as a Stanford or South Carolina or (when they were good) Notre Dame, even Maryland would only struggle with DePaul in all likelihood. UConn has a more guaranteed likelihood of going undefeated in conference because, well, they just don't lose many games at all. But other teams likely would feast in the American and New Big East as well.

 

[VA Huskie]

And to makes things worse, UVA heads out to the West Coast to take on UCLA and Fullerton.

When they come home, they play a 4-0 Rhode Island team that is coached by former Wahoo Tammi Reiss, who has that team on the upswing. That could make a fire a wildfire.

Pretty sure TT's contract runs through 2023. Thompson was UVA AD Carla William's first hire. Can Williams acknowledge that this isn't looking good and find the resolve and resources to move on?

I believe Tina is in year 4 of a 5 year contract. Unless she also get a free year because of COVID