Coaches road show bus gets pulled over by police and..

[Vancat]

There are also the women's fans that think because someone isnt interested in women's basketball they automatically "don't like" the UConn women.

I think one of the main reasons WB fans get a hair across their a*s is when guys dismiss it as unimportant or boring.

 

[The X Man]

It really shouldn't bother me but I get so annoyed when i see those UConn Basketball where the men are men and the women are champions bumper stickers.

 

[Yardigan]

Thanks for the info. Used to be possible to view all the CT newspapers, then one day, boom, all gone. I have no idea why.

Personal blackout/blockade and part of a larger brainwashing scheme... You should be feeling persecuted...and paranoid.
And, even if you aren't feeling paranoid...that doesn't mean 'Europe' isn't out to get you. Should bolt ASAP, while/IF you can.....

 

[Yardigan]

It really shouldn't bother me but I get so annoyed when i see those UConn Basketball where the men are men and the women are champions bumper stickers.

kinda funny...has to be Geno's ideer.....

 

[JMick]

I think one of the main reasons WB fans get a hair across their a*s is when guys dismiss it as unimportant or boring.

Which is such a weird reason to be offended. Granted a large portion of the WBB fans are total snowflakes. I don't go to their board often but it's not a coincidence that many of the boneyard deplorables spend a ton of time on the women's board. It's just the demographic

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Used to be possible to view all the CT newspapers, then one day, boom, all gone. I have no idea why.

You may have no idea why @Mokum, but try harder. , you're in the Koninkrijk der Nederlanden; not Russya, Bylorussya , China, Cuba, the House of Saud, etc. Use a good VPN in Amsterdam, you'll be able to access pretty much anything.

 

[MadDogRevival]

It really boils down to the Calhoun-Gene feud . . .

Geno.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Anyone who misspells Geno on this board does it on purpose and shows lack of respect toward him. What I don’t get, is the ones who don’t like the women’s program. Those on the women’s board are still big UConn men’s fans.

Many over there have no connection to the university and are just fans of the women’s team. Must be nice. We have the same 15 idiots bumping into each other over here

 

[Ewekon]

@Mokum 1) Pretty straightforward: UConn athletics department and coaches (Edsall, Hurley, Penders, Pappa (mush) Gino, et al reaching out to UConn alumni and other Huskies' fans; relationship building/warm fuzzies, Q&A, etc.: potential increased ticket sales, donations, etc.; 2) UConn website article, tweet links, etc. 3) Download a VPN to access things you suggest are inaccessible in the Netherlands. 4) There's a mass blockage of all US news for Mokum; appreciate the benefits!

I use cyberghost globally. There is a limited wait queue for the free version but it works everywhere I have been. Easy download. One of many but the one I use.

 

[uconnfan68]

It really boils down to the Calhoun-Gene feud, in my opinion. Women’s fans who hated Calhoun because Geno hates him too extended their dislike to the team he coached.

There are also some posts I’ve seen women’s team fans make about men’s team players here on the Boneyard that are Cesspool material, but that doesn’t have to be gotten into.

That would be news to the moderators there. They run a tight ship, and there is no tolerance for any type of personal attacks, especially on players.

 

[intlzncster]

Thanks for the info. Used to be possible to view all the CT newspapers, then one day, boom, all gone. I have no idea why.

Just fyi, an easy, free alternative: it's also possible to use Opera Browser (if you're not familiar it's a popular alternative to Firefox/Chrome/Safari).

It has a built in VPN in incognito mode that you can turn on. So you click the VPN button, select whether you want to appear from Europe/America/Asia, and off you go.

You can also use it for sites that only let you have a couple articles a month. Just open, VPN, and voila you get more as many articles as you want.

I use a regular VPN service, but also use Opera if I need to appear located from a different country during a session.

 

[Stainmaster]

That would be news to the moderators there. They run a tight ship, and there is no tolerance for any type of personal attacks, especially on players.

Yeah, no personal attacks on “their girls,” but I don’t think that extends to the men.

 

[David 76]

I've noticed a lot more snowflake men posters. But, then again, I'm here.

 

[uconnphil2016]

I’d honestly be more interested in going to women’s games if the crowd didn’t look like bingo night at the senior center. I’ve never understood why that’s the case

 

[David 76]

Maybe it's because I'm close to looking like bingo night, but that doesn't bother me in the least. I watch the players and they're pretty good.

 

[Stainmaster]

I’d honestly be more interested in going to women’s games if the crowd didn’t look like bingo night at the senior center. I’ve never understood why that’s the case

The actual basketball being played on the court -- below the rim and emphasizing fundamentals -- reminds them of their youth. The athleticism and low-post physicality in the men's game today renders it almost a separate sport for them.

 

[uconnfan68]

The actual basketball being played on the court -- below the rim and emphasizing fundamentals -- reminds them of their youth. The athleticism and low-post physicality in the men's game today renders it almost a separate sport for them.

Where did you see that low post physicality and athleticism? Just wondering.

 

[Huskyforlife]

Where did you see that low post physicality and athleticism? Just wondering.

Everywhere

 

[intlzncster]

Where did you see that low post physicality and athleticism? Just wondering.

You didn't see our guys getting teabagged into the second row over the last few years?

 

[David 76]

The actual basketball being played on the court -- below the rim and emphasizing fundamentals -- reminds them of their youth. The athleticism and low-post physicality in the men's game today renders it almost a separate sport for them.

I don't think it is an either or proposition for most people. I enjoy the fundamentals being well executed by the women and their skill level. And I enjoy the men's game even more.
People should stop seeing this as a contest. I think there is an insecurity shown by that. By either set of fans. And it is a loud minority on each side that perpetuates it, not a majority. There is no obnoxious women's fan that threatens my being a fan of the men. And their is no macho men's fan or aging crowd for the women that cause me to lose appreciation for the women.

 

[uconnfan68]

Everywhere

But here.

 

[Paesano]

I don't think it is an either or proposition for most people. I enjoy the fundamentals being well executed by the women and their skill level. And I enjoy the men's game even more.
People should stop seeing this as a contest. I think there is an insecurity shown by that. By either set of fans. And it is a loud minority on each side that perpetuates it, not a majority. There is no obnoxious women's fan that threatens my being a fan of the men. And their is no macho men's fan or aging crowd for the women that cause me to lose appreciation for the women.

Very well said! I would add that the men's game would be even better to watch if the teams played with the same level of discipline and as fundamentally sound as the UConn women's team. There actually is existence proof of this as there are a few examples in both the college level and the NBA. As for our team, if we won't be able to recruit one and dones from within our conference, we will need to move more in this direction.

 

[champs99and04]

I've never bought the idea that people watch the UConn women's team because of how good they are. That's a completely arbitrary justification that doesn't hold up to further scrutiny. Quality is subjective and can be manipulated quite easily to fit any narrative you want. If ESPN televised boys high school games or D-3 men's action, would you watch? Probably not, because even if they were equivalent to the UConn women in terms of dominance, they still wouldn't wear the UConn jersey. The sentimental appeal wouldn't exist and people wouldn't care. Similarly, if the UConn field hockey team embarked on a similar streak, they wouldn't garner near the attention that the women's basketball team gets.

The reason I point these things out is to show how gender intersects with a host of other variables on the topic of college sports. That might seem obvious (thank you Einstein for telling us UConn fans would rather watch UConn than Trinity High), but it masks a central truth that the rest of the dialogue then pivots from: people feel obligated to watch the women's team because they've been deprived of every excuse not to. The crutch that exists for, say, Wisconsin football fans does not for UConn basketball fans because patriarchy is not built into the sport itself in the same way. They can say "I don't like basketball that much" just like the Duke fan can say "I don't like high school basketball" or the NBA fan can refuse to watch anything that's not the best. People find a way to circumvent the decisive variable - gender - when it comes to explaining their preferences in entertainment.

Except, rationalization is never necessary as a consumer, and so, yes, I do get annoyed when people in the media trip over themselves to acknowledge Geno's success because it feels so shamelessly manufactured, even after every pixel of novelty has dissolved. "Can you imagine not losing a conference home game since 1943, Seth?" "Seth, you there?"

Please don't accuse me of generalizing, because I'm well aware that there are plenty of people legitimately invested in women's basketball. All the power to them, and if they're passionate about growing the sport, they should continue to promote the players and coaches with the same vigor that ESPN grants LeBron. Ultimately, the reason does not matter. If you're rooting for the program because you love the school, or want to encourage your daughter to play, or just can't find anything else on TV, every contribution means a lot and supports a great cause.

Let's just stop insulting everyone's intelligence. People tend to care about things that other people care about. Certainly, there is something to be said for pioneering change and stepping out on an island every now and again, but don't allow the lazy social angle to obscure the nature of people (ironically, the popularity of men's sports are sustained by a bandwagon effect that is largely associated with femininity and group think). Some give and take is required.

 

[David 76]

I've never bought the idea that people watch the UConn women's team because of how good they are. That's a completely arbitrary justification that doesn't hold up to further scrutiny.

You actually wrote those words to make a point?"
Come on Champs

 

[Mokum]

Personal blackout/blockade and part of a larger brainwashing scheme... You should be feeling persecuted...and paranoid.
And, even if you aren't feeling paranoid...that doesn't mean 'Europe' isn't out to get you. Should bolt ASAP, while/IF you can.....

What are you talking about?

 

[champs99and04]

@David 76 I don't want to go down the "high school boy's team x is better than UConn" rabbit hole because I think it's generally shallow and insulting. However, when we talk about gender and sports, a couple things need to be considered:

1. The purported athletic advantages that men have over women are socially constructed and developed to fit a language that is written and maintained by men. To the extent that men are better at basketball is a function of the game being invented by a male, making it difficult to then separate the origins of the sport from gender.

2. Along those lines, Patriarchy - which promotes things like aggression, force, pain, and competition - is so ingrained in the vernacular of sport that women competing is almost counter-intuitive. The actual premise would have to be modified in order to create a model that achieves fair representation, not just with respect to women but also gay men. Assigning women to a completely separate domain only prepares them systematically for second class citizenship.

3. The fact that our constructed definition of basketball talent favors men over women may cause some to distort the persisting gender inequality in our country at large. I do not have that concern with someone like you, necessarily, or even most people, but when we misrepresent something with deeply sexist roots as being equal opportunity, we risk obscuring the true meaning of feminism.

None of this is reason to disinvest in women's sports. Quite the opposite. Women's sports can obtain equal if not greater popularity than men's sports. We've seen it happen in tennis, maybe occasionally in soccer or hockey (all sports that, non-coincidentally, tend to induce more national pride). It's entertainment like anything else. You sell the story well enough and people will consume the product. They care far less about quality than they'll have you believe. The UConn women's team is evidence of that - their appeal does not derive from their play so much as it does their dominance. They're the glitch in the system. Restore them to a more level playing field, without changing a thing about their skill level, and watch the intrigue fade. Even the attention they receive is a reflection of the deck being stacked against them.

 

[Paesano]

You say so much that is so wrong.

Your entire position is socially constructed. Your entire value system is socially constructed.

 

[CL82]

1. The purported athletic advantages that men have over women are socially constructed and developed to fit a language that is written and maintained by men. To the extent that men are better at basketball is a function of the game being invented by a male, making it difficult to then separate the origins of the sport from gender.

Possibly my quote of all time on the BY, knocking off my prior favorite Fishy's hanging sentence.

 

[Rico444]

When did champs go off the deep end?

 

[Stainmaster]

When did champs go off the deep end?

He’s perfectly lucid and merely saying things that reflect various degrees of outrageousness in order to stoke the fire and stir up more discussion. To me, that post read like pure satire, especially given that it’s somewhat divergent from stuff he’s posted on sociopolitical issues in the past.