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Transfers are what can kill your APR. When you reach for players who aren't good enough to play here, there is very good chance they transfer and a decent chance they cost you an APR point.

This.

The concern isn't that we take academic risks late in the recruiting year. The concern is we take lousy basketball players who we try to force out the door in a year or two. Unless transfers are really good academically (I think they need a >2.6 GPA), they cost a point.

This is exactly what killed our APR in the 2007-2010 timeframe. It wasn't just poor students, it was poor basketball players/decent-but-not-good-enough students.

And, APR aside, I'd rather not take a kid who we know we're going to recruit over in a few years and who might gum up the works scholarship-wise.
 
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We really need to get away from this APR academics at all costs mindset. We got caught and punished - lets target passable APRs not perfect scores. I would much rather bring in some talent than scholars.
Kind Sir Chief:
I apprehend that the focus on academics is born of a healthy distrust of the NCAA and the relish with which they censure our basketball programs. The objective being to avoid eligibility pitfalls and force them to grin and award championship trophies.
 
As someone that really wants a zone buster, I hope the bank is closed!

Happy to read this quote about filling them!
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Sterling Gibbs is a name that I've heard as a possibility. He would add valuable experience and more importantly a solid ball handler
 
Sterling Gibbs is a name that I've heard as a possibility. He would add valuable experience and more importantly a solid ball handler
He wouldn't have to sit out a year?
 
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I recall the year Napier was recruited, he was a late add. Didn't he move up a year to join the huskies?
Is it possible Ollie could be looking at 2016 recruit that might be available now?

Yea. I guess this could have been answered, but I was a jr when he committed and he was supposed to be '12 but reclassified very late with the intent of coming here.
 
Sterling Gibbs would be perfect. Is the staff working on him/is it realistic to think he may come here?
 
Sterling Gibbs would be perfect. Is the staff working on him/is it realistic to think he may come here?

I don't think he has even expressed interest in transferring. People just noted that he'd be immediately eligible if he did, but he has to want to transfer first, and he's not forced to like Miller was.
 
A good case can be made that the staff will roll with the Omar Calhoun/Sam Jr. duo instead of adding a 5th yr grad transfer shooter type addition. The more I think about it ...I don't see Ollie recruiting over either 1 of these guys. Recruiting over in this case meaning reducing potential minutes. The only way that happens could be IF the player they decide to consider is just a BIG TIME talent. UConn may not be into recruiting JUCO players (my guess is they really aren't) but a real good 1 with 2 years of eligibility can be worked into the system next year and flourish in his final year. That may be a tough sell on a JC kid with high major potential (the pool is dwindling anyways).

It is what it is...I would like to add but it isn't that easy. Definitely guys out there that we are not pursuing.
 
A good case can be made that the staff will roll with the Omar Calhoun/Sam Jr. duo instead of adding a 5th yr grad transfer shooter type addition. The more I think about it ...I don't see Ollie recruiting over either 1 of these guys. Recruiting over in this case meaning reducing potential minutes. The only way that happens could be IF the player they decide to consider is just a BIG TIME talent. UConn may not be into recruiting JUCO players (my guess is they really aren't) but a real good 1 with 2 years of eligibility can be worked into the system next year and flourish in his final year. That may be a tough sell on a JC kid with high major potential (the pool is dwindling anyways).

It is what it is...I would like to add but it isn't that easy. Definitely guys out there that we are not pursuing.

Not saying they will go this route. Nothing indicates they are. But SCJR came from the Junior college ranks.
 
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A good case can be made that the staff will roll with the Omar Calhoun/Sam Jr. duo instead of adding a 5th yr grad transfer shooter type addition. The more I think about it ...I don't see Ollie recruiting over either 1 of these guys. Recruiting over in this case meaning reducing potential minutes. The only way that happens could be IF the player they decide to consider is just a BIG TIME talent. UConn may not be into recruiting JUCO players (my guess is they really aren't) but a real good 1 with 2 years of eligibility can be worked into the system next year and flourish in his final year. That may be a tough sell on a JC kid with high major potential (the pool is dwindling anyways).

It is what it is...I would like to add but it isn't that easy. Definitely guys out there that we are not pursuing.
Well I agree that from the outside looking in it doesn't seem that KO has anyone on his radar. Though from the quote in the article and him focusing on true point guards like the one we lost out to Marquette on I'm sure he might have someone on his mind. Do you really want TSAM and Sam Jr. as your backup guards? I know I don't feel comfortable with them especially with OC as the only other option. We just seem very weak at those 1-3 backup positions.
 
Well I agree that from the outside looking in it doesn't seem that KO has anyone on his radar. Though from the quote in the article and him focusing on true point guards like the one we lost out to Marquette on I'm sure he might have someone on his mind. Do you really want TSAM and Sam Jr. as your backup guards? I know I don't feel comfortable with them especially with OC as the only other option. We just seem very weak at those 1-3 backup positions.
I don't disagree that adding a player would be the right move. There are guys out there that can help us. What we really need is a guy that can come in and hit 50 + 3's at a 40% clip. The staff may think Omar & Sam Jr. will be the answer. I think J. Adams has a shot to hit +60 from behind the arc in 2015-16 at close to a 40% clip (probably 38%'ish but maybe 40%).
 
I understand that a LOT of people are down on SCJR.. But I wouldn't underestimate what he will be able to bring with a year in the program under his belt and being completely healthy. Let the hate begin, but I think he can bring some of what we need..
 
I understand that a LOT of people are down on SCJR.. But I wouldn't underestimate what he will be able to bring with a year in the program under his belt and being completely healthy. Let the hate begin, but I think he can bring some of what we need..

Maybe he can, but it would be irresponsible to going into this season relying on heavy minutes from Cassell or Samuel. I'm sure that the staff is still working on some potential additions, and there will be more transfers announced at the end of the semester.
 
I understand that a LOT of people are down on SCJR.. But I wouldn't underestimate what he will be able to bring with a year in the program under his belt and being completely healthy. Let the hate begin, but I think he can bring some of what we need..
I do agree with you that I have more faith in Sam I am having an impact next year than TSAM. I liked how SCassell ran the offense in the minutes he got. I think KO actually preferred him running the offense when RB was out than TSAM based on his substitution patterns this season. I love TSAM's energy but he just isn't a point guard unless we play a team like AZ St. who puts no pressure on the ball all season long. LOL!
 
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I understand that a LOT of people are down on SCJR.. But I wouldn't underestimate what he will be able to bring with a year in the program under his belt and being completely healthy. Let the hate begin, but I think he can bring some of what we need..
No hate but what leads you to believe this? I know that he was battling injuries and has room for improvement but he was awful both offensively and defensively. I would love nothing more than to see him make substantial progress but 28% from the field and a defensive liability is not someone I want to have to count on next season.
 
Id rather not use the scholarships just for the sake of using them. If it came to giving them out to projects like Michael Bradley or Ben Eaves, id rather not use them

What about projects like Austrie and Armstrong and Thabeet? It's nice that we don't want projects who don't become valuable contributors, but it would be nice if we recognized that there is no way of knowing for sure which projects will develop and which won't
 
Austrie and Thabeet both started Day 1. I don't think I'd call either of them "projects," at least in the sense that we use the word to describe Bradley or Eaves. I don't even think Austrie improved very much at UConn.
 
No hate but what leads you to believe this? I know that he was battling injuries and has room for improvement but he was awful both offensively and defensively. I would love nothing more than to see him make substantial progress but 28% from the field and a defensive liability is not someone I want to have to count on next season.
If you watched the games where he came into relieve RB at the point and run the offense he did pretty well. Definitely better than TSAM. The problem his shooting and shot selection are still awful. Though if he can improve on that and run the offense well he would be a great backup point guard for next year. Hopefully the injury was the reason his shooting and quickness were so off last year.
 
If you watched the games where he came into relieve RB at the point and run the offense he did pretty well. Definitely better than TSAM. The problem his shooting and shot selection are still awful. Though if he can improve on that and run the offense well he would be a great backup point guard for next year. Hopefully the injury was the reason his shooting and quickness were so off last year.

I watched those games, and everything you've said here is wrong. His shot selection wasn't even the problem. He just missed a lot. He wasn't able to functionally run the point because he's not quick enough to get past anyone.
 
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I watched those games, and everything you've said here is wrong. His shot selection wasn't even the problem. He just missed a lot. He wasn't able to functionally run the point because he's not quick enough to get past anyone.

People are higher on SCJ because they haven't seen him play in as long. Nothing more to it.
 
Look at Ollie's recruiting task from a 2 year perspective.

2015 now looks so much better with Miller committed, but the 2016 and 2017 recruiting classes need to be historic. To have 13 scholarship players after the 2016 and 2017 classes, we need to recruit a minimum of TEN players, likely ELEVEN to replace Hamilton, and POSSIBLY TWELVE if Adams proved good enough to go after a sophomore season. Enoch could be the last man standing. 10-12 players in 2 recruiting classes seems huge given the competition for talent. Clearly we will be too 'class heavy' in those years so I would expect transfers, juco, 5th year players, and unused ships to get sprinkled in so we don't have more than 5 recruits in any one year with 4 years eligibility. This year we offered everybody, had obvious needs to give playing time, and still missed on so many. Getting 3 good recruits a year should keep a program competitive nationally, but if we do just that we'll have only 7-8 players. Recruiting in volume will sometimes have to be at the same positions so it will be very interesting.

On my greed list I hope it includes both Kegler and Samuels, and both Gilbert and Gibbs, as well as Zach Brown and Mathias. Throw in an unknown German 6'9 who shoots the 3 at 40% or better, and all is well. (Have not seen Bradley or Davis play but you can add them in too)
 
What about projects like Austrie and Armstrong and Thabeet? It's nice that we don't want projects who don't become valuable contributors, but it would be nice if we recognized that there is no way of knowing for sure which projects will develop and which won't
To be fair you don't not start a 7'3" center when you have a team of freshman
 
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