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I believe JC is 4 - 3 vs Coach K. I thought I heard he is the only coach with a winning record vs Coach K. Does anyone know if this is a fact?
 
shizzle787 said:
The guy who coached Lehigh or SFA might have a winning record against him.
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Good point. I should have included coaches with more then 1 game coached vs Coach K
 
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Duke lost the 1978 national title game to Kentucky. In the subsequent two seasons they made the tournament (a bit more difficult then) and finished the seasons ranked. The year after was K's first year at Duke.

Compare what K started with at Dike to what JC started with here and then tell me who accomplished more.

Yes, what K did was tremendous but what JC did was off the charts incredible.
 
Palatine said:
If Calhoun had Dick Vitale as his lead recruiter (as K did). He would have done much more wth the talent than Coach K. It would have put JC in Geno territory.
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Your opinion about this seems to be a popular one on here.

There is no question that Calhoun did “more with less” compared to K.

But in the men’s game, there isn’t as wide of a gap between most top players (5* guys) and the rest (4* guys), as there is in the women’s game.

I wouldn’t trade a single team Calhoun had for one K had. 4 chips in 15 years. Hard to imagine things could have been better.

Plus, Calhoun pretty much had the pick of any players he wanted from 1999 on. I just think Calhoun and K preferred different type of guys.

Calhoun liked gritty, team first winners. K liked the 5 star divas.
 
Ratso said:
calhoun doesn't cry
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Color his hair jet black at the age of 75

Have a losing season expunged from his record

Tell kids their ruining his program if they leave for the NBA

Allow dirty play and trash talking from people like Laettner, Allen and McRoberts

Turn a lottery pick into a 2nd round pick

And teaching kids how the flop



PS: K landed infinitely higher recruits than JC. Many primadonnas don't want to work, they just want to park their "talent" somewhere until they get drafted. That's where K and Squid reside..

Calhoun developed talent better than anyone ever.
 
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JC was one of the best at 'getting every drop of juice out of the orange'. He and his staff knew how to develope guys and he was great at adapting to his talent as well. The early successful teams pressed. He won his first championship with a guard oriented team. Then he won with Okafor/Gordon group. Finally, he let Kemba loose on the world. He knew he wasn't getting 88 McD's players so he took guys with a lot of potential and who didn't mind tough love. Both of those last two words were key in what he built.

I look at Coach K and see a guy who often got the best talent to underperform. The guy could recruit, but he was not the best X's and O's guy and was not the best at developing talent.
 
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huskyinfl said:
Calhoun is one of the best coaches of all time.

I'm not saying that Coach K is not but what I am saying is deep down in my gut I feel that Coach K is a weirdo.
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I don’t know about that, but he kind of reminds me of this guy from the first Deadpool movie.

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JC is 2-2 against K when it matters. In the tournament. Our 2 wins lead to championships. Only one of Ks wins lead to a championship. Our wins are both in the Final Four. Ks wins are in earlier rounds. Prior to the 99 final the national media had already crowned the 99 Duke team as the best team of all time. Now they are a forgotten runner up.

Also K lost both games with his dumb decisions. Giving the ball to poor ball handlers late in both games. Langdon and Reddick we improperly prepared for those moments. Khalid, RIP and Ben Gordon were extremely prepared for those moments. JC had put our guards in those situations many times. They knew exactly what to do. Don't turn the ball over. Beat your man. Win the game.
 
Umami Zen said:
To K's credit--When asked who he would not want to coach a big game against--He said-- JC-- Respect
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Jim Calhoun seems the type a guy that would be comfortable leading men while walking the sidelines or storming the frontlines.
 
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There is no comparison. JC ate Krablooie's lunch throughout. And the great part is, he knew it. Here's the telling anecdote. March 29, 1999. St. Petersburgh. Tropicana Dome. UConn v Puke. Puke is the odds on favorite. We have no chance whatsoever. Midway through the first half, we were down 8-10 points, then came back to within a hoop or so. Jim put in Antric Klaiber for a few minutes. Basically told K that it doesn't matter who you have on the floor, we are going to beat your ass, even with our end-of-the-bench players. Total intimidation. Final result: 77-74. Jim was (still is) the greatest bench coach of all time. Understands the flow of the game and how to use it to our advantage. K is only looking for 'relationships.'
 
geordi said:
There is no comparison. JC ate Krablooie's lunch throughout. And the great part is, he knew it. Here's the telling anecdote. March 29, 1999. St. Petersburgh. Tropicana Dome. UConn v Puke. Puke is the odds on favorite. We have no chance whatsoever. Midway through the first half, we were down 8-10 points, then came back to within a hoop or so. Jim put in Antric Klaiber for a few minutes. Basically told K that it doesn't matter who you have on the floor, we are going to beat your ass, even with our end-of-the-bench players. Total intimidation. Final result: 77-74. Jim was (still is) the greatest bench coach of all time. Understands the flow of the game and how to use it to our advantage. K is only looking for 'relationships.'
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Other than Magette Duke couldn't play their bench. Nate James. Chris something (big guy)..... all the bench players who got regular minutes in all the other games were useless against us. They played terrified and incapable of matching speed or physicality of the game. Our bench (mourning, Jones, wane, saunders) played well. Very well actually. And yes, Klaiber got some minutes :-)
 
I use to live a few homes from Jim Calhoun vacation home in Madison. He used to live next to a small community access beach.
I met him once but I did not say anything to him and I fully regret it.I just wanted to say thank you and I missed the opportunity in front of me. I saw him a few x riding his bike as well abs his wife was in stop b shop a couple x. I didn’t want to bother the man— I knew that he probably got bothered daily but I wanted him to that I was such a big fan and a hero to me-. I’m sure he’s a hero to many people here— there’s no comparing jc to anyone else imho.
 
Scrappy3 said:
I use to live a few homes from Jim Calhoun vacation home in Madison. He used to live next to a small community access beach.
I met him once but I did not say anything to him and I fully regret it.I just wanted to say thank you and I missed the opportunity in front of me. I saw him a few x riding his bike as well abs his wife was in stop b shop a couple x. I didn’t want to bother the man— I knew that he probably got bothered daily but I wanted him to that I was such a big fan and a hero to me-. I’m sure he’s a hero to many people here— there’s no comparing jc to anyone else imho.
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I doubt there is anything wrong with saying thanks for everything coach and then leaving him alone. Harry Carson was in line right behind me at our Boston Market a while back. I just said I enjoyed watching him play. He said thanks and we went out sep ways. Didn’t seem annoyed at all.
 
He always reminded me of Isaac from Children of the Corn. I wouldn't say evil, but close to it.

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K is a better recruiter on paper. If they were given equal talent to work with it would be even more one sided for Calhoun.
 
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