Coach Abe Effect

[dws3665]

I think I did misunderstand you. Thanks for clarifying!

 

[cancontent]

I think I did misunderstand you. Thanks for clarifying!

All good. It happens.

 

[husky429]

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IMO, Coach Abe crosses the line. One example is a technique that is obviously taught by Abe, since all her players at UCF employed it. When closing out on a shooter, defenders typically get their hand up as high as possible to contest the shot.

At UCF, Abe had defenders close out on shooters by extending their hands outward, towards a shooter’s face. There was one game in particular when I was concerned that KLS was going to lose an eye as UCF defenders repeatedly hit her in the face on her jump shot.

As I recall, Lou didn’t hit a single basket from the field, but went 12/12 from the FT line. I haven’t seen enough of UGA to know if Abe has brought this dangerous defensive technique along with her from UGA, but I would not be surprised.

It's basketball 101 to put your hand in a shooters face. That's not dirty.

 

[SECbbfan24]

The kick while the player is on the ground really bothers me.

I get we all get frustrated and the moments can get heated but some of this stuff is NEVER okay.

 

[oldude]

It's basketball 101 to put your hand in a shooters face. That's not dirty.

It’s basketball 101 to put your hand up. UCF’s defenders were sticking their hand an arm out, hitting Lou in the face on multiple occasions. That is a dangerous play designed to hurt and/or intimidate an opponent.

 

[husky429]

It’s basketball 101 to put your hand up. UCF’s defenders were sticking their hand an arm out, hitting Lou in the face on multiple occasions. That is a dangerous play designed to hurt and/or intimidate an opponent.

At UCF, Abe had defenders close out on shooters by extending their hands outward, towards a shooter’s face.

Putting your hand in someone's face is not bad--it's basketball. Yeah, poking someone in the eye is a dirty play. But what is in bold is what you criticized, and it's simply ridiculous to say that it's dirty to put a hand in someone's face.

If you can close out on a shooter and tickle their nose, you're doing something right. It crosses the line when you start hurting people. Duh.

 

[Centerstream]

Georgia was very aware of who they were hiring and for what reason(s).
Abe is going to have her "fans" and her "haters". I am curious to see how her teams end up in the SEC after UCF did quite well beating most of the teams in the AAC...once that other school left for the Big East .

 

[Jmsdawg]

BTW, I tuned into the MSU game last night and even my wife commented-"What happened to all the fans that used to attend games at the Hump?" The attendance was unbelievably pathetic. Now contrast to the 12,000+ fans in Columbia for SC and you can see the value of a coach building a program....Didn't me to kick dirt on you while you were already down....

BTW, I tuned into the MSU game last night and even my wife commented-"What happened to all the fans that used to attend games at the Hump?" The attendance was unbelievably pathetic. Now contrast to the 12,000+ fans in Columbia for SC and you can see the value of a coach building a program....Didn't me to kick dirt on you while you were already down....

Just found out from mildog the game last night was closed to the fans due to weather.

 

[oldude]

Putting your hand in someone's face is not bad--it's basketball. Yeah, poking someone in the eye is a dirty play. But what is in bold is what you criticized, and it's simply ridiculous to say that it's dirty to put a hand in someone's face.

If you can close out on a shooter and tickle their nose, you're doing something right. It crosses the line when you start hurting people. Duh.

We’re disagreeing over semantics. In the particular game in question, UCF defenders were making no effort to either block Lou’s shot or even impede her line of vision. They were basically lunging at Lou with their arms almost parallel to the ground, hitting her in the face on 4-5 occasions. It was pretty clear that UCF’s strategy was to take UConn’s top shooter out of the game by hitting her in the face repeatedly.

 

[husky429]

We’re disagreeing over semantics.

Yes, because you were wrong. Poking eyes = bad. Putting your hand in someone's face (as you said) = fine. It's rather simple. Be clear with what you're saying and it wouldn't be an issue.

I'll scurry back to the men's board now where people aren't so sensitive.

 

[oldude]

Yes, because you were wrong. Poking eyes = bad. Putting your hand in someone's face (as you said) = fine. It's rather simple. Be clear with what you're saying and it wouldn't be an issue.

I'll scurry back to the men's board now where people aren't so sensitive.

Let’s be clear. From my very first post on this subject I indicated that UCF defenders both extended their hands towards a player’s face and, in the case of Lou, repeatedly hit her in the face. You chose to cherry-pick my comments, ignoring the intent to harm in the action, and then make an issue out of it by misrepresenting what I said.

Rather then acknowledging your mistake, you now feel some compelling need to insult me to prove your point. All I can say is: Please have a safe trip back to the men’s board.

 

[Blueballer]

Putting your hand in someone's face is not bad--it's basketball. Yeah, poking someone in the eye is a dirty play. But what is in bold is what you criticized, and it's simply ridiculous to say that it's dirty to put a hand in someone's face.

If you can close out on a shooter and tickle their nose, you're doing something right. It crosses the line when you start hurting people. Duh.

Perhaps Oldude asssumed you had watched some WCBB UCF vs UCONN games. If you had, you would know exactly what he means. UCF did a lot of things that hurt or came close to hurting people. Anyone who watched is very aware of coach Abe's style of play.

 

[husky429]

Perhaps Oldude asssumed you had watched some WCBB UCF vs UCONN games. If you had, you would know exactly what he means. UCF did a lot of things that hurt or came close to hurting people. Anyone who watched is very aware of coach Abe's style of play.

Well aware of it--I watch most women's games. UCF clearly crossed the line with physical play a few times, including poking folks in the face. He suggested that putting your hand in the defenders face AT ALl was dirty, and that is ludicrous.

 

[HuskyNan]

For the third time, I had season tickets to UCF for two years. The team did NOT usually play rough or dirty basketball. They were physical, yes, but so is UConn. I saw absolutely nothing out of the ordinary in most games.

UCF turned up the physicality in the UConn games because they were at a clear disadvantage in height and talent. UConn always gets teams that play physical. Some of the kids did go too far, and Coach Abe didn’t seem to mind I’ll admit, but it was not typical of UCF.

UConn fans go into “our girl” protective mode sometimes. I understand that a lot of you think of the players as granddaughters but it’s kinda paternalistic, to be honest. I’m sure the players see themselves as players that are women, not girls that play basketball.

I haven’t seen any Georgia games so I can’t speak to how Abe is going about her business there. I’ll be interested to see what our SEC fan friends think

 

[oldude]

For the third time, I had season tickets to UCF for two years. The team did NOT usually play rough or dirty basketball. They were physical, yes, but so is UConn. I saw absolutely nothing out of the ordinary in most games.

UCF turned up the physicality in the UConn games because they were at a clear disadvantage in height and talent. UConn always gets teams that play physical. Some of the kids did go too far, and Coach Abe didn’t seem to mind I’ll admit, but it was not typical of UCF.

UConn fans go into “our girl” protective mode sometimes. I understand that a lot of you think of the players as granddaughters but it’s kinda paternalistic, to be honest. I’m sure the players see themselves as players that are women, not girls that play basketball.

I haven’t seen any Georgia games so I can’t speak to how Abe is going about her business there. I’ll be interested to see what our SEC fan friends think

Nan, having only watched UCF games vs UConn, I accept your assessment that UCF did nothing out of the ordinary in most games. But as you indicate, the UCF games vs UConn were different. Those games often turned into high fouling battles, not unlike the OBE games with Rutgers.

It’s a time honored strategy of an inferior team to try to pull off the upset by bringing the better team down to their level. It never worked for UCF vs UConn. As for Coach Abe’s new gig at UGA, we’ll see how it goes.

 

[Ron and Vida]

No surprise from me. Only surprise from me is that this doesn't happen more often with KAH coached teams. Her teams live on the line of tough/dirty.

She was like that when she coached UAlbany women.
It looks like it’s finally catching up with her

 

[Ron and Vida]

I said it before, once Coach Abe got the job at Georgia, I feel the pain for the rest of the SEC and others that will have to deal with this cr@p.

On the other hand the SEC is a powerful conference and not put up with her shenanigans or the UGA admin

 

[triaddukefan]

If the NCAA selection committee reads this board, look for UGA as the #8 seed in UCONN's region.

 

[Jmsdawg]

For the third time, I had season tickets to UCF for two years. The team did NOT usually play rough or dirty basketball. They were physical, yes, but so is UConn. I saw absolutely nothing out of the ordinary in most games.

UCF turned up the physicality in the UConn games because they were at a clear disadvantage in height and talent. UConn always gets teams that play physical. Some of the kids did go too far, and Coach Abe didn’t seem to mind I’ll admit, but it was not typical of UCF.

UConn fans go into “our girl” protective mode sometimes. I understand that a lot of you think of the players as granddaughters but it’s kinda paternalistic, to be honest. I’m sure the players see themselves as players that are women, not girls that play basketball.

I haven’t seen any Georgia games so I can’t speak to how Abe is going about her business there. I’ll be interested to see what our SEC fan friends think

I love WBB and I really like to watch players give the extra effort it takes to be better players. Coach Abe appears to me to be an excellent coach who expects her players to go all out, it is her job to win but it is also her responsibility to ensure her players do not cross the line so physical play actually is designed to hurt opponents. Every game, there have been many, that I watched UCF or UGA play with Coach Abe has been physical but I NEVER saw anything that I felt crossed the line of trying to hurt other players. I welcome Coach Abe to the SEC and wish her good fortune but not when UGA plays MSST!

 

[HuskyNan]

A reminder to UConn fans that a Coach Abe-led UCF played UConn in Gampel 7 months ago without any problems

UConn-UCF postgame press conference

Geno starts at 19:50.

the-boneyard.com

 

[CL82]

They were physical, yes, but so is UConn. I saw absolutely nothing out of the ordinary in most games.

Uh-huh, I see.

 

[LwrcasefaN]

If the NCAA selection committee reads this board, look for UGA as the #8 seed in UCONN's region.

Women's Bracketology: Indiana ascends to No. 1 seed, replaces Iowa State

 

[LwrcasefaN]

Battles and Warren sat out this low-level scrum. They couldn't be bothered. lol

 

[SECbbfan24]

 

[cancontent]

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