Clemson says 'Peace Out!' to the ACC

[Rich]

Clemson files lawsuit against ACC over exit fees

In a lawsuit filed Tuesday in South Carolina, Clemson calls the ACC withdrawal penalty "unconscionable" and "unenforceable."

www.espn.com

 

[bendm]

"it wasnt unconscionable when we voluntarily signed it but after consulting with our attorneys we've changed our mind"

 

[Castlevania]

with FSU and Clemson leaving the ACC, maybe it will become a basketball dominated league again?

 

[willie99]

We've seen this act before

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

Chances Clemson wins this from the board lawyers?

 

[UConnSwag11]

with FSU and Clemson leaving the ACC, maybe it will become a basketball dominated league again?

You’ll still have two football powerhouses. Miami and…


Syracuse

 

[UCAlumDE]

They were all for it when it helped their interests. Now they act like they were coerced into a bad deal.

 

[JB75]

This realignment insanity is so ridiculous. I cAnt.

 

[Waquoit]

So this means UConn's off the hook for their lawsuit, right?

 

[nelsonmuntz]

This Clemson/FSU legal action is one of the more surreal cases I have ever seen. The entire case hinges on a contract that none of the members have an actual copy of.

 

[UCan3]

with FSU and Clemson leaving the ACC, maybe it will become a basketball dominated league again?

never thought the ACC would be embarrassed like this - they will continue to unwind as those dollars peel away.

 

[StllH8L8ner]

You’ll still have two football powerhouses. Miami and…


Syracuse

 

[businesslawyer]

To give anywhere near an educated opinion on this, I’d have to do a bunch of research and read their complaint (and wait for the ACC’s response). Having said that, it’s never easy arguing that a contract you signed shouldn’t be enforced against you, but there are situations where you can get it thrown out anyway. Delaware is a “contractarian” state, where they more than others try to enforce contracts as written. But I don’t know what state’s law governs the ACC, and if it’s NC (which would be my guess) I have no clue what their state take on general principles of contract law are.

 

[brihman]

This realignment insanity is so ridiculous. I cAnt.

Create a portal for universities to transfer conferences

 

[uh-no]

To give anywhere near an educated opinion on this, I’d have to do a bunch of research and read their complaint (and wait for the ACC’s response). Having said that, it’s never easy arguing that a contract you signed shouldn’t be enforced against you, but there are situations where you can get it thrown out anyway. Delaware is a “contractarian” state, where they more than others try to enforce contracts as written. But I don’t know what state’s law governs the ACC, and if it’s NC (which would be my guess) I have no clue what their state take on general principles of contract law are.

FSU/ACC are still fighting out jurisdiction. IMO the fact that Celmson jumped into the ring with FSU's attempt ongoing at least means they don't believe FSU going SO poorly as to wait it out.

Either way, I suspect there will be a settlement at some point. I suspect the league won't want discovery on how they came to the trash-heap of a media contract, including forcing money under the table to Raycom, in backdoor deal.

 

[businesslawyer]

FSU/ACC are still fighting out jurisdiction. IMO the fact that Celmson jumped into the ring with FSU's attempt ongoing at least means they don't believe FSU going SO poorly as to wait it out.

Either way, I suspect there will be a settlement at some point. I suspect the league won't want discovery on how they came to the trash-heap of a media contract, including forcing money under the table to Raycom, in backdoor deal.

Not to get too lawyerly on folks, but jurisdiction — where you try the case — is different than governing law — which state’s statutory and case law you use to determine who is in the right. If you believe most judges try to do their best (and in any state’s I’ve had anything to do with I believe that, at least until you get to political cases) governing law is more important.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

But where are they going? SEC?

 

[CTBballfan243]

To give anywhere near an educated opinion on this, I’d have to do a bunch of research and read their complaint (and wait for the ACC’s response). Having said that, it’s never easy arguing that a contract you signed shouldn’t be enforced against you, but there are situations where you can get it thrown out anyway. Delaware is a “contractarian” state, where they more than others try to enforce contracts as written. But I don’t know what state’s law governs the ACC, and if it’s NC (which would be my guess) I have no clue what their state take on general principles of contract law are.

Sounds like Judge Judy will her work cut out for her.

 

[ec33]

with FSU and Clemson leaving the ACC, maybe it will become a basketball dominated league again?

Not when the next moves we see are UNC and Virginia leaving as well.

 

[The Yakk]

I wonder if Clemson's President was also unauthorized to sign the contract--like FSU's President--making the contract automatically void.

That tactic is 100% guaranteed to work!

 

[87Xfer]

To give anywhere near an educated opinion on this, I’d have to do a bunch of research and read their complaint (and wait for the ACC’s response). Having said that, it’s never easy arguing that a contract you signed shouldn’t be enforced against you, but there are situations where you can get it thrown out anyway. Delaware is a “contractarian” state, where they more than others try to enforce contracts as written. But I don’t know what state’s law governs the ACC, and if it’s NC (which would be my guess) I have no clue what their state take on general principles of contract law are.

So, in other words, you have nothing to add to the conversation.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Sounds like Judge Judy will her work cut out for her.

Luckily, she’s retired and not a March Madness hoops fan.

Off Topic?: clemson versus acc filing

Plaintiff’s filing

the-boneyard.com

 

[goskis2018]

I told you all last summer, UNC is shaping up to leave the ACC and will be first in line when the chips fall.

The SEC is the preferred league.

 

[B1GEast]

The Big 12 is going to grab as many top teams that they can.

Their agreement with the SEC and Big 10 provided the 12 with a look in provision.

They'll make considerably less money until realignment. Then they can renegotiate conference payouts to be better than the measly amount they agreed to.

The ACC is done. UNC, UVA will bolt to the SEC.. Pitt, Miami, and Clemson will join the 12, FSU and probably Notre Dame to the Big 10

 

[ec33]

I told you all last summer, UNC is shaping up to leave the ACC and will be first in line when the chips fall.

The SEC is the preferred league.

The large stacks at FSU are trying to bully the table.

Clemson is trying to bluff their way out before everyone realizes their glory days have passed.

UNC is just sitting there with the nuts.