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8893 said:
I was so wrong about Cuppy. I loved his flash and rooted like hell for him, and for the first half of that season I was convinced that he would eventually replace KO (JC loved pulling that crap with KO btw). I was wrong.

So I moved on to food threads after that.
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A cup of Cormier, the gateway drug.
 
8893 said:
I was so wrong about Cuppy. I loved his flash and rooted like hell for him, and for the first half of that season I was convinced that he would eventually replace KO (JC loved pulling that crap with KO btw). I was wrong.

So I moved on to food threads after that.
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Didn't he play okay in the HOF game at the Springfield CC vs Glen Robinson and the Boilermakers but soon thereafter the roof caved in on his game? I was at the game but somehow I don't remember too much of it.
 
Does anyone know if we've offered Jackson? 247 says we've offered Vital and I assume we can't take both. Not really sure who would be a better fit; Vital seems to be a better ball handler but Jackson probably a better shooter.
 
mauconnfan said:
Didn't he play okay in the HOF game at the Springfield CC vs Glen Robinson and the Boilermakers but soon thereafter the roof caved in on his game? I was at the game but somehow I don't remember too much of it.
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That sounds right. I remember exactly where I was when I realized that he was over his head. It was a Gampel game and I was in my student season ticket seat in the last row directly behind the basket, and I watched him approach the hoop in traffic and totally out of control time and time again, with dipsy-doodle moves I was convinced were going to work but never did.
 
Horatio said:
With all due respect Sir, you can not list Johnny Selvie amongst the mere Juco
Players that were lucky to attend Uconn. Johnny Selvie has a cult following that makes Him more than just a lowly Juco player that luckily played for Uconn. Johnny was a Flintstone sir and the only reason that he went to a Juco is because he refused to play for the "diet" Jim Calhoun ( Tom Izzo). He wanted to play for the real Jim Calhoun. Also, any recent camera shot of Johnny Selvie at a Uconn game would instantly create threads that would rival the old Drummond thread or the Pizza thread. He is greatness. Do you not remember the battle cry " It's Johnny Time "!!!! You are forgiven.
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There's not a UCONN fan in existence (from that era) who doesn't chuckle at a Johnny joke, Boneyard or no. Guy is indelibly burned into the collective UCONN fan unconscious.
 
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On a typical official visit the recruit arrives Thursday night and leaves Sunday. As of right now (Noon on Saturday), CJ is in Los Angeles. I'm assuming the visit was canceled/rescheduled or the initial report was bogus.

Forgot to add, I know he's in LA b/c of geo tags on his snapchat.
 
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CGarr said:
On a typical official visit the recruit arrives Thursday night and leaves Sunday. As of right now (Noon on Saturday), CJ is in Los Angeles. I'm assuming the visit was canceled/rescheduled or the initial report was bogus.

Forgot to add, I know he's in LA b/c of geo tags on his snapchat.
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I cant believe you found a JUCO kid's snapchat.
 
UConnStats said:
I cant believe you found a JUCO kid's snapchat.
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CGarr's relatively young iirc. It's all the kids do these days. Takes no effort, especially if you are on it all day.
 
It's more than a little disappointing that Johnny Selvie hasn't been invited back and got his place into the Huskies of honor. My guess is he wants to come back for games but is feeling spurned by not getting the recognition he deserves. The guy was arguably our best power forward ever, treat him with the respect he earned.
 
Cassell's JUCO freshman year:

2P FG 95-170 (55.9%), 6.3 points from 2Ps/game
3P 71-213 (33.3%), 7.1 points from 3P/game
FT 157-195 (80.5%), 5.2 points from FT/game

Jackson's JUCO freshman year:

2P FG 70-149 (47%), 4.4 points from 2Ps/game
3P 100-222 (45.5%), 9.4 points from 3Ps/game
FT 102-139 (73.4%), 3.2 points from FTs/game

What does this data show me? That in JUCO, Cassell didn't have a great outside jumper, but he took advantage of the sub-standard opposing defensive play and designed his offense by attacking the rim, especially since 11.5 ppg were generated from either 2 pt attempts or free throws. Now that Cassell is playing D1 basketball, against tougher opponents, he's not able to generate that same interior offense, thus forcing him to settle for more of an outside game, which he isn't that great in anyway.

The breakdown of Jackson's numbers make it look like he's more of an outside shooter. He doesn't generate a lot of free throw attempts (4.3/game compared to 6.5/game of Cassell), so I guess that his offensive game does not penetrate the interior often. He sticks to what he's good at, shooting threes, and the good news about 3 point shooters is that 3 point shooting ability translates better across different levels of play than lets say a guy like Cassell who was relying on attacking the rim in JUCO games.

If you can shoot a 3 in JUCO, you can probably shoot a 3 in D1 and with Gibbs and Calhoun both graduating, I'd gladly take a 3 point specialist and Jackson looks like he can help with that.
 
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UConnStats said:
I cant believe you found a JUCO kid's snapchat.
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Haha, took me longer to find his Twitter (about 3 mins). Once I had that it took 10 seconds to find his snap. Great behind the scenes footage can be caught on snap during visits.
 
Sam's team was absolutely loaded, many D-1 guys and they had a smaller guy run point a lot. Not even wading into argument but Sam's team was like a juco all-star team!
 
superjohn said:
It's more than a little disappointing that Johnny Selvie hasn't been invited back and got his place into the Huskies of honor. My guess is he wants to come back for games but is feeling spurned by not getting the recognition he deserves. The guy was arguably our best power forward ever, treat him with the respect he earned.
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I miss "Johnny-Time". Likely the best lefty JC transfer at UConn since Jimmy Foster.
 
mauconnfan said:
I miss "Johnny-Time". Likely the best lefty JC transfer at UConn since Jimmy Foster.
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Selvie brought so much energy to our frontcourt, something we currently need. I'd prefer we bring in a juco like that.. A PF/C that is tough around the basket. Can rebound with the best of them and is physical and strong
 
ktuck911 said:
Selvie brought so much energy to our frontcourt, something we currently need. I'd prefer we bring in a juco like that.. A PF/C that is tough around the basket. Can rebound with the best of them and is physical and strong
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Unfortunately had the same IQ as what we currently have also. :confused:
 
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Mulder, Kentucky's JuCo player, has barely seen the court this season, I wonder why. As for the rest of you, the most common phrase in this whole thread has been "Selvie". If you think Jackson will bring the same value as Selvie simply because they were both JUCO players, then I don't know what to tell you because the logic behind that is rock solid.
 
BUHusky10 said:
If you think Jackson will bring the same value as Selvie simply because they were both JUCO players, then I don't know what to tell you because the logic behind that is rock solid.
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How do you know he wouldn't? In all seriousness, none of us have a clue.
 
BUHusky10 said:
Mulder, Kentucky's JuCo player, has barely seen the court this season, I wonder why. As for the rest of you, the most common phrase in this whole thread has been "Selvie". If you think Jackson will bring the same value as Selvie simply because they were both JUCO players, then I don't know what to tell you because the logic behind that is rock solid.
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If you're looking at it that way, the logic you're using is that solely because he's a JUCO guy he isn't good enough for UConn. I get your whole thing about UConn's image being important and wanting to get the highest touted players so we have the media slobbering all over us, Drake at First Night, and half a dozen one-and-dones going in the lottery, but that's divorced from the reality of where we are located right now. If a player can give good minutes and help the team, I don't care if he comes from Bumblefu-k Community College or Some Elite Prep School With A Trail Of Reporters.
 
Stairmaster said:
If you're looking at it that way, the logic you're using is that solely because he's a JUCO guy he isn't good enough for UConn. I get your whole thing about UConn's image being important and wanting to get the highest touted players so we have the media slobbering all over us, Drake at First Night, and half a dozen one-and-dones going in the lottery, but that's divorced from the reality of where we are located right now. If a player can give good minutes and help the team, I don't care if he comes from Bumblefu-k Community College or Some Elite Prep School With A Trail Of Reporters.
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No, the logic in using is the simple fact that the MAJORITY of these types of guys don't pan out, in fact we have one eating away at a potential scholarship for the next 2 years on the roster right now. Statistically speaking, these kids come with baggage (usually why they are in JUCO in the first place) and just don't really produce like they are expected more often than not (key phrase).

If we are filling last minute recruiting holes, I'd much rather have that Vital kid who decommited from UNLV.
 
BUHusky10 said:
No, the logic in using is the simple fact that the MAJORITY of these types of guys don't pan out, in fact we have one eating away at a potential scholarship for the next 2 years on the roster right now. Statistically speaking, these kids come with baggage (usually why they are in JUCO in the first place) and just don't really produce like they are expected more often than not (key phrase).
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It doesn't seem like you're offering statistical backup for this, instead I just see a focus on optics. It's a lazy comparison thinking that this is Cassell 2.0 just because they both happen to be JUCO guards. Plenty of people in this thread are actually comparing the numbers between the two of them instead of rushing to conclusions based on a knee-jerk reaction.
 
So all this talk about Selvie got me nostalgic so I did a search to relive the past. I found an article that said Selvie had to play a high school playoff game wearing a tracking ankle bracelet and that he got his degree from New Mexico State.
 
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Stairmaster said:
It doesn't seem like you're offering statistical backup for this, instead I just see a focus on optics. It's a lazy comparison thinking that this is Cassell 2.0 just because they both happen to be JUCO guards. Plenty of people in this thread are actually comparing the numbers between the two of them instead of rushing to conclusions based on a knee-jerk reaction.
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Believe me I looked, if there were a simple statistic for this type of thing I would have used it in my argument.
 
UCweCONN said:
So all this talk about Selvie got me nostalgic so I did a search to relive the past. I found an article that said Selvie had to play a high school playoff game wearing a tracking ankle bracelet and that he got his degree from New Mexico State.
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You looked up Johnny Selvie, from Chicago.

Our guy is Johnnie Selvie.
 
BUHusky10 said:
Mulder, Kentucky's JuCo player, has barely seen the court this season, I wonder why. As for the rest of you, the most common phrase in this whole thread has been "Selvie". If you think Jackson will bring the same value as Selvie simply because they were both JUCO players, then I don't know what to tell you because the logic behind that is rock solid.
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At this juncture, what exactly do you expect us to bring in? We have the potential need for another guard in case of injury/foul trouble etc. There's not some 5 star or even 4 star stud just waiting there for the picking. I personally am sick of us giving schollie's to walk on's to boost our team GPA when maybe there is another qualified guy out there. Stats wise, this guy can shoot it. That is a very valuable skill to have.

Using Mulder as your example is dumb. The question was posed that the "big" schools do not take JUCOs; someone responded with examples of all the big schools doing it. Mulder was given a scholarship to help fill out the roster. Even Kentucky can not have 12-13 5 star players.
 
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