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Christyn Williams's Final 2: UConn and SC

TitleTown said:
In my opinion, Walker is much better suited to play the 3 than the 2. Her size and mid range game will really shine at the 3. Walker has not yet(through high school, AAU, and USA basketball) proven the ability to consistently knock down 3 pt shots yet, that is a skill that I think the 2 needs to have.
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I agree with you that Walker is a better 2 than 3. If Walker plays the 3 next year where are you going to play KLS?
 
TitleTown said:
All the evidence you need to show that guards are more important is that the 2 most important plays in that loss to Miss St. were made by guards. The decision by Chong to drive instead of holding for last shot and the buzzer beater made by William. Guards handle the ball exponentially more than posts and that allows guards to influence the game more. That is why good guard play is key in tournament time.
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That's not evidence at all. You don't get to designate the "most important plays" of the game because it fits your theory. Geno paraphrased:

"No one play or player cost us that game it was a set of circumstances that we were not ready to handle. Miss. State kept coming at us, so give them some credit. "
 
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TitleTown said:
You made the point that William made the shot over a 5'11 Gabby. I thought you were suggesting that if UConn had a taller post, they would have blocked the shot. Maybe I misunderstood what you meant in your post?
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That is what I was suggesting. I also prefaced it by saying "If you want to look at just one play in the game likewhen you mention Saniya drive or Napheesa missed FT, or Kia missing two wide open three then we could just as easily look at itty bitty's shot over Gabby.
 
TitleTown said:
All the evidence you need to show that guards are more important is that the 2 most important plays in that loss to Miss St. were made by guards. The decision by Chong to drive instead of holding for last shot and the buzzer beater made by William. Guards handle the ball exponentially more than posts and that allows guards to influence the game more. That is why good guard play is key in tournament time.
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No point in continuing the discussion---but stupid me, I shall. If Azura had been in that game, regardless of who was in the guard position (on that particular team) the game would not have been in OT and Itty Bitty would not have had a shot to take. Gabby and Collier were no match for the Big(s) of Ms St. They did well but needed more, a mobile 6 4/ or 6 5 would have done that. (Natalie a nice person was outclassed)
 
BroadwayVa said:
No point in continuing the discussion---but stupid me, I shall. If Azura had been in that game, regardless of who was in the guard position (on that particular team) the game would not have been in OT and Itty Bitty would not have had a shot to take. Gabby and Collier were no match for the Big(s) of Ms St. They did well but needed more, a mobile 6 4/ or 6 5 would have done that. (Natalie a nice person was outclassed)
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If UConn had an additional guard of Stevens caliber in that game they would not have been in OT either.

What did the bigs of Miss St. do that was game changing? McCowan and Okorie combined to have 17 pts and 12 rebounds. They played well but were far from game changing.
 
CocoHusky said:
That is what I was suggesting. I also prefaced it by saying "If you want to look at just one play in the game likewhen you mention Saniya drive or Napheesa missed FT, or Kia missing two wide open three then we could just as easily look at itty bitty's shot over Gabby.
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If that is what you were suggesting you need to go back and watch the tape. The only reason Williams had a chance to block that shot, was because she wasn't guarding the post. She was above the foul line, switching on a pick. A spot a BIG would never have been in. The BIG would have been in Collier's spot, guarding the post. So you thinking that having a BIG in that game, on that play, would have made a difference is simply inaccurate.
 
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TitleTown said:
If UConn had an additional guard of Stevens caliber in that game they would not have been in OT either. What did the bigs of Miss St. do that was game changing? McCowan and Okorie combined to have 17 pts and 12 rebounds. They played well but were far from game changing.
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McCowan was the starter so lets look at Okorie by herself. Okorie played 20 minutes got 7 point and 4 rebounds. So by herself Okorie had more minutes, points and rebounds than the entire UCONN bench. Not to mention that both both Okorie and McGown had like 50 pounds each on Gabby and Napheesa. See it now?
 
CocoHusky said:
McCowan was the starter so lets look at Okorie by herself. Okorie played 20 minutes got 7 point and 4 rebounds. So by herself Okorie had more minutes, points and rebounds than the entire UCONN bench. Not to mention that both both Okorie and McGown had like 50 pounds each on Gabby and Napheesa. See it now?
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No, I don't see anything. Let's just agree to disagree on this one.
 
TitleTown said:
If that is what you were suggesting you need to go back and watch the tape. The only reason Williams had a chance to block that shot, was because she wasn't guarding the post. She was above the foul line, switching on a pick. A spot a BIG would never have been in. The BIG would have been in Collier's spot, guarding the post. So you thinking that having a BIG in that game, on that play, would have made a difference is simply inaccurate.
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That is not correct. In the UCONN defense, since forever, the Big must come over and contest that shot. If you don't come over and contest that shot you find yourself sitting on the pine next to Geno. You really think Gabby was there by accident?
 
CocoHusky said:
That is not correct. In the UCONN defense, since forever, the Big must come over and contest that shot. If you don't come over and contest that shot you find yourself sitting on the pine next to Geno. You really think Gabby was there by accident?
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Watch the film. Williams is NOT guarding the post, Collier is!

 
TitleTown said:
If that is what you were suggesting you need to go back and watch the tape. The only reason Williams had a chance to block that shot, was because she wasn't guarding the post. She was above the foul line, switching on a pick. A spot a BIG would never have been in. The BIG would have been in Collier's spot, guarding the post. So you thinking that having a BIG in that game, on that play, would have made a difference is simply inaccurate.
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IMO, it didn’t really matter if the defender was a Big or not. I want to believe that Auriemma knew that the little kid was going to get the ball and take that shot. If he had just had any sized player in her shirt denying her the ball, even if she got it at some point she wasn’t going to get a good shot off against anybody because of her size. I thought the defense prior to her getting it was too passive.
 
Go/huskies said:
I would like to see Uconn get both Williams and ONO, both player fit a need and would see plenty of minutes early if they work hard in practice. Once Kia graduates who starts at the shooting guard spot for Uconn ? It could be Lou, but Geno said he’s not starting Z because he doesn’t want his All Americans playing out of position. He could go with Bent or Coombs, but I think Williams would fit in perfectly at shooting guard for Uconn.
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Yes. Williams WOULD fit in perfectly at shooting guard for UConn. BUT, she has set up her final two choices with a heavy slant toward S. Carolina. Glaringly, she will be announcing her decision in her high school gym - just like A'ja Wilson did. Furthermore, she has been oohing and aahing about playing with Tyasha Harris. Lastly, it wouldn't be surprising if Dawn pitched to Williams the idea of the team being form fitted around her, once A'ja graduates - rather than being "just another cog in Geno's machine", as Dawn might easily say (although there is, of course, no evidence of that). Still, it would be exciting if Christyn signed on with UConn. Crossing fingers (lightly, but not tightly).
 
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Psyjaxx said:
Yes. Williams WOULD fit in perfectly at shooting guard for UConn. BUT, she has set up her final two choices with a heavy slant toward S. Carolina. Glaringly, she will be announcing her decision in her high school gym - just like A'ja Wilson did. Furthermore, she has been oohing and aahing about playing with Tyasha Harris. Lastly, it wouldn't be surprising if Dawn pitched to Williams the idea of the team being form fitted around her, once A'ja graduates - rather than being "just another cog in Geno's machine", as Dawn might easily say (although there is, of course, no evidence of that). Still, it would be exciting if Christyn signed on with UConn. Crossing fingers (lightly, but not tightly).
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Welcome to the Boneyard Psyjaxx. Nice to have you join us. :)
 
Psyjaxx said:
Yes. Williams WOULD fit in perfectly at shooting guard for UConn. BUT, she has set up her final two choices with a heavy slant toward S. Carolina. Glaringly, she will be announcing her decision in her high school gym - just like A'ja Wilson did.
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And just like Megan Walker did.

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"Walker, a 6-foot-1 wing player, made her intentions known at a ceremony
in the Monacan High gymnasium in North Chesterfield, Va." [Courant]​
 
It doesn't matter if she chooses S.C. I doubt she win any championships there. They were good with Aja but after Aja I don't see them being as dominant as they were in past years. C. Williams is a great player but I wouldn't be heart broken if she didn't choose Uconn. I will be disappointed because in the beginning she seemed like a Uconn lean and with the friendship of Lexi Gordon was a sure lock. But she seems to have found new friends/players she wants to play with other than Lex
 
CTisballers said:
It doesn't matter if she chooses S.C. I doubt she win any championships there. They were good with Aja but after Aja I don't see them being as dominant as they were in past years. C. Williams is a great player but I wouldn't be heart broken if she didn't choose Uconn. I will be disappointed because in the beginning she seemed like a Uconn lean and with the friendship of Lexi Gordon was a sure lock. But she seems to have found new friends/players she wants to play with other than Lex
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Dawn also hasn’t proven to be a strong recruiter, Henderson will be the 1st top 10 high school kid Dawn will be bringing in since 2014, not including transfers, so they might have a hard time wining Championships going forward.
 
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Go/huskies said:
Dawn also hasn’t proven to be a strong recruiter, Henderson will be the 1st top 10 high school kid Dawn will be bringing in since 2014, not including transfers, so they might have a hard time wining Championships going forward.
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Dawn hasn’t proven to be a strong closer consistently. We recruit with anybody, but for some reason we’ve struggled closing. It’s not like SC hasn’t been in the top 5/top 2 for a plethora of top 15 players in the 2015/2016/2017 classes.. we just haven’t been able to close. This year alone, we made it to to the top 5 for 5 of the top 10 players (Henderson, Smith, DeCosta, Williams, Nelson-Ododa... top 2 for Smith and DeCosta).

In 2017.. we were very much in it for Westbrook, Cooks, Carter, Hayes, J. Williams, Richards.

In 2016, very much in it for Odom, McCoy, Johnson etc.

We’ve gone up against the best in recruiting but haven’t been able to close. I’m hoping that changes with Williams and Nelson-Ododa but I’ll wait and see before I get my hopes up.
 
Go/huskies said:
Dawn also hasn’t proven to be a strong recruiter, Henderson will be the 1st top 10 high school kid Dawn will be bringing in since 2014, not including transfers, so they might have a hard time wining Championships going forward.
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You are correct, and no doubt Dawn realized this deficiency in her program. Dawn bolstered their recruiting proficiency this summer with the hiring of Jolette Law, who is a former head coach at Illinois, and most recently an assistant at Tennessee (and their lead recruiter). She's not a dink & dunk, hit or miss singles hitter, she hits homeruns. She is a master recruiter. Look for her presence on staff to have an immediate impact, especially given the recent success of Dawn's program.

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Scoop said:
You are correct, and no doubt Dawn realized this deficiency in her program. Dawn upped their recruiting game this summer with the hiring of Jolette Law, who is a former head coach at Illinois, most recently of Tennessee. She is a master recruiter. Look for her presence on staff to make an immediate impact.
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Yea that Dawn is pretty sharp at realizing her weaknesses and then actually doing something about it. A year ago the weakness was elevating the SC offense to championship level and in came Melanie Balcomb as an addition to the SC staff. Hopefully people will remember this the next time: "Dawn is not a good coach nonsense start."
 
Psyjaxx said:
See .. I'm a newbie. Missed that one. Thanks for pointing that out, JS. I'll work on being (cautiously) optimistic about Christyn coming to UConn. (Why aren't the vibes any better than I'm feeling though?)
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You got knocked down driving to the hoop at The Boneyard. A foul was called but it was on you. It happens. Don't sulk. Get off the bench and get your head back in the game.
 
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Just one more Uconn foul shot in regulation in the semis and A'ja still wouldn't have won one.Geno doesn't lose in the finals.
 
Golden Husky said:
You got knocked down driving to the hoop at The Boneyard. A foul was called but it was on you. It happens. Don't sulk. Get off the bench and get your head back in the game.
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Great comments here. I'll be coming back for more - especially when we get this regular (potentially undefe ..no I won't ji..) season underway! Let CW and ONO go where they need to go. (My vibes still say SC for CW, but if UConn is for CW, that would be fun.)
 
I'm not sure who gave a silent commitment tonight, but Dawn tweeted that a birdie flew into the nest.
 
cockhrnleghrn said:
I'm not sure who gave a silent commitment tonight, but Dawn tweeted that a birdie flew into the nest.
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Staley has new recruit that called last night per her twitter. UConn is not looking good for another recruit?
 
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