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HuskyHawk said:
Bolded above is the key. Forget the shot clock. Take the first good look we get. Play fast. Play faster. We shoot so much better early in the shot clock and off transition. We run horrible half court offense once we let the defense set. We need to shoot before they are set.

Bouknight was again the most talented guy on the floor. His blow by change of speed was unstoppable.
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I would like to know the shooting percentage and turnovers in the last 6 seconds of the shot clock. We want be be quick and not hurried - and there have been many turned down open looks early on.
 
How about the defense today? Forcing multiple, at least two that I remember, shot clock violations where Cinci didn't even look to get a shot off. Not to mention their final 2.7 second possession in overtime.
 
Chief00 said:
Whaley passed up a mid range jumper too.
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Feel like Whaley hasn’t made a midrange shot in months. Makes sense that he is hesitating on shooting now. Would love to see him confidentially knock one down again.
 
awfuldan said:
Feel like Whaley hasn’t made a midrange shot in months. Makes sense that he is hesitating on shooting now. Would love to see him confidentially knock one down again.
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i thought he had but he can knock that shot down and needs to take it.
 
awfuldan said:
Feel like Whaley hasn’t made a midrange shot in months. Makes sense that he is hesitating on shooting now. Would love to see him confidentially knock one down again.
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I read an article (or a tweet) a little while ago that he was asked to stop the “poppers” and work the boards which is what he’s been doing.
 
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Chief00 said:
i thought he had but he can knock that shot down and needs to take it.
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He made some at the beginning of the year but it’s been a while. He’s missed a bunch of wide open ones in a row. Still, dude is playing great ball of late, so good for him.
 
Chief00 said:
Despite seeing Bouknight play several times last year, the thing I did not fully appreciate was how his dribble and vision was so good, he could run a good D1 team as a point guard either in a primary or secondary role. This opens up all kinds of possibilities for Chief to ponder and could impact who we target in recruiting.
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Yeah, I think he’s a PG in the NBA. His handle is solid and he sees the court really well. Right now I think he’s limited by the fact that nobody on this team is reading the defense the same way. Like Tom Brady with bad receivers. He’s a college SG but can play off the ball or on. Needs to get stronger.
 
BNich said:
If Bouknight can transform his body like Adams did from year 1 to year 2 it's a wrap.
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Adams is 205. He was probably 10-15 pounds heavier last year than Bouknight is now. They list James as 175. He certainly needs to get to 190 or maybe a bit more, but we saw what the added weight did to Carlton. Steph Curry is 190 and Bouk is similar is size.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
Adams is 205. He was probably 10-15 pounds heavier last year than Bouknight is now. They list James as 175. He certainly needs to get to 190 or maybe a bit more, but we saw what the added weight did to Carlton. Steph Curry is 190 and Bouk is similar is size.
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Curry is still more well built than Bouknight. The added weight, more so strength has helped Adams. You're comparing apples to oranges when talking about how added weight has affected Carlton compared to what kind of affect it would have on Bouknight. He's skinny. Nothing wrong with adding strength. He's also young. His body will mature in time. I'm not concerned.
 
BNich said:
Curry is still more well built than Bouknight. The added weight, more so strength has helped Adams. You're comparing apples to oranges when talking about how added weight has affected Carlton compared to what kind of affect it would have on Bouknight. He's skinny. Nothing wrong with adding strength. He's also young. His body will mature in time. I'm not concerned.
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?? Bouk is 175. Curry is 190. I said Bouk should get to 190. That's 15 pounds of muscle. I don't want him to be Adams sized, which is 30 more pounds. I think that would hinder his athleticism as it did to Josh.
 
BNich said:
Nah. Lamb was still skinny. Adams filled out. If Bouknight was built like Adams, he'd be unstoppable getting to the basket.
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Look at lamb his sophomore year. That’s what Bouk needs to looks like, not like a linebacker
 
HuskyHawk said:
?? Bouk is 175. Curry is 190. I said Bouk should get to 190. That's 15 pounds of muscle. I don't want him to be Adams sized, which is 30 more pounds. I think that would hinder his athleticism as it did to Josh.
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You said he was similar size to Curry. He's 15 pounds lighter and an inch taller. Not for nothing, but Adams is listed at 200.
 
UConnSwag11 said:
Look at lamb his sophomore year. That’s what Bouk needs to looks like, not like a linebacker
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6'4" 200 is not a linebacker. He's long and lean. 15-20 pounds of muscle on his frame won't bulk him up too much.
 
BNich said:
You said he was similar size to Curry. He's 15 pounds lighter and an inch taller. Not for nothing, but Adams is listed at 200.
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When I said size, I meant height. Clearly Bouk needs to be stronger. He should not bulk up to Adams' size.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
When I said size, I meant height. Clearly Bouk needs to be stronger. He should not bulk up to Adams' size.
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Adams came in at 6'4" 180. It's not far fetched for him to be similar size to Adams. But we shall see.
 
BNich said:
Nah. Lamb was still skinny. Adams filled out. If Bouknight was built like Adams, he'd be unstoppable getting to the basket.
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He has Lamb's frame tho, not Adams. Adams came in with some raw strength, even though he's bulked up since. Strength/height has always been his best physical attribute.

Bouk's never gonna be a physical force. He's more Rudy Gay/Lamb-esque in style.
 
intlzncster said:
He has Lamb's frame tho, not Adams. Adams came in with some raw strength, even though he's bulked up since. Strength/height has always been his best physical attribute.

Bouk's never gonna be a physical force. He's more Rudy Gay/Lamb-esque in style.
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That’s what I’m saying. Throw in Rip as well
 
HuskyHawk said:
Great win. Finally were tough enough to beat this team and win a close game. Certainly critical that the 3s went in.

Bolded above is the key. Forget the shot clock. Take the first good look we get. Play fast. Play faster. We shoot so much better early in the shot clock and off transition. We run horrible half court offense once we let the defense set. We need to shoot before they are set.

The team is turning a corner. Need to get more offense out of Akok but he was a rebounding machine today. Need to get from him what Cinci gets from Scott. Gaffney took a step back and looked intimidated out there. Bouknight was again the most talented guy on the floor. His blow by change of speed was unstoppable.
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Ummmm need to get the same as they get from Scott? 25 points 13 rebounds?? Ain't happening. Also wouldn't every player in the country want those numbers? Dont know what kind of saying that is. Perhaps talking of season averages. Scott went off today and that was due to crap defense on him. We have ZERO inside defense. Yeah blocks are fantastic... but unlike Emeka theese guys block the ball right into an open opponent under the hoop. Carlton shouldnt even be a walk on for a D-1 team. Hes a great kid and can tell he works hard. Just has no anger or fight in him.. huge win either way. GO HUSKIES!!!!!
 
Buffett10 said:
Ummmm need to get the same as they get from Scott? 25 points 13 rebounds?? Ain't happening. Also wouldn't every player in the country want those numbers? Dont know what kind of saying that is. Perhaps talking of season averages. Scott went off today and that was due to crap defense on him. We have ZERO inside defense. Yeah blocks are fantastic... but unlike Emeka theese guys block the ball right into an open opponent under the hoop. Carlton shouldnt even be a walk on for a D-1 team. Hes a great kid and can tell he works hard. Just has no anger or fight in him.. huge win either way. GO HUSKIES!!!!!
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Did you watch the game? That is laughable. You can't be serious.
 
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intlzncster said:
He has Lamb's frame tho, not Adams. Adams came in with some raw strength, even though he's bulked up since. Strength/height has always been his best physical attribute.

Bouk's never gonna be a physical force. He's more Rudy Gay/Lamb-esque in style.
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Rudy was a beast. Way bigger than Lamb or Bouk. He's also 6'8". But yes, James is wiry. He's not going to look like Marcus Smart.
 
Buffett10 said:
Ummmm need to get the same as they get from Scott? 25 points 13 rebounds?? Ain't happening. Also wouldn't every player in the country want those numbers? Dont know what kind of saying that is. Perhaps talking of season averages. Scott went off today and that was due to crap defense on him. We have ZERO inside defense. Yeah blocks are fantastic... but unlike Emeka theese guys block the ball right into an open opponent under the hoop. Carlton shouldnt even be a walk on for a D-1 team. Hes a great kid and can tell he works hard. Just has no anger or fight in him.. huge win either way. GO HUSKIES!!!!!
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:rolleyes: It's more how Scott plays and how Cincinnati uses him. He hits 3's but is constantly moving in and out and attacking the basket on cuts. We tend to park Akok on the 3 point line on the wing and leave him there. Akok will be a better player than Scott when all is said and done.

Your take on Josh is embarrassingly bad and completely wrong. He's not a great fit for Hurley's system but he is a solid D1 player.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Rudy was a beast. Way bigger than Lamb or Bouk. He's also 6'8". But yes, James is wiry. He's not going to look like Marcus Smart.
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Right. They don’t want James to be like 225. Lamb, Rip, guys like that is the target he should be going for. Strength will add to his game, but you don’t want size to take away from it. He’s never going to be a bruiser, you don’t want that. Just adding size for sizes sake is silly. Add strength so he can finish better at the rim, hold off defenders, take contact, and avoid contact fouls on defense. Look at guys like Durant, Ingram, Lamb, etc etc. Don’t need to be huge to be effective.
 
Good game. I heard something we haven't heard all year. "This place is packed". They fought back. Played "d". For the first time in a while a call went their way at the end. Team has to be feeling pretty good now after the recent slide.
 
HuskyHawk said:
:rolleyes: It's more how Scott plays and how Cincinnati uses him. He hits 3's but is constantly moving in and out and attacking the basket on cuts. We tend to park Akok on the 3 point line on the wing and leave him there. Akok will be a better player than Scott when all is said and done.

Your take on Josh is embarrassingly bad and completely wrong. He's not a great fit for Hurley's system but he is a solid D1 player.
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Yeah, This.
 
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