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Sonny44 said:
Now folks, it's not nice to revel in the misfortunes of others, especially on Thanksgiving day.
Or is it?
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That's what the Puritans did after the Pequot War. Some even say Thanksgiving has it's origins in the defeat of the Pequots. :confused:
 
Chattanooga's head coach is Jim Foster, who is no stranger to coaching against the Lady Vols. Foster of course, is the former head coach at Vanderbilt and Ohio State, and is one of Geno's best friends. In addition to Tennessee, Foster is getting some high powered programs to play road games at Chattanooga in the future. If I remember correctly, both UConn and Notre Dame will be playing home and home series with Chattanooga in the next couple of years. It's a rare thing when so many big time teams agree to play at a mid major's home court.
 
The question is how far will Tenn drop in the polls. Texas beat Stanford. TxAM is ranked 5th followed by Duke and MD.
ND
SC
UConn
TxAM
TX
Duke
MD
Tenn ????
 
Bestiarius said:
Yes. Nepotism and inbreeding is always a good thing. :rolleyes:

I'm amazed at how down the Volnation folks are on Holly, and that's after the Mods banned most of the negavols. Soon, there will be no one left there.

I don't see much respect from the players toward Holly. To me, that's one of the biggest problems. I don't see much chance of improvement next year either. Russell will be working with new feet and it will be interesting to see how Diamond and Holly interact.

I just get the feeling that Tennessee's culture for many years now has been one big looking forward to next year.
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You mentioned the possible lack of respect towards Holly. I'm not sure if that's true (I did not catch the game and have not seen players interact with her) but if it's even a little true, it will only get worse if the people I'm referring to end up running the ship.

I think part of the problem may be that as many have pointed out, Tennessee recruits all these HS AA's. Someone posted a list of the sheer number of AA's on the roster and I think at the moment Tennessee has 8, and I'm not even counting Harrison who many of their fans think is the best post in the nation. The problem is that while these kids come to Tennessee for many reasons, one of the main ones has to be to win NC's.

Pat's failure to do so the last 4 years of her career, and Holly's failure to even make the elite 8, must have these kids (and their families) questioning what exactly is happening to all this talent. Either the kids just aren't as good as "advertised", the coaches are failing them with lack of development, focus and an actual game plan, or a combo of both.
 
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If they play like they did in the first half yesterday, divine intervention is what it will take to prevent the season from turning into a disaster.
 
Bayareahusky said:
Ariel said at the start of the season that the team is going to listen to Holly and take direction this year.... but I am not so sure....
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Forgive me for being obtuse, but is the implication here that Ariel and her teammates didn't listen to nor take direction from Holly in the past?

If true, UT has found the problem, if they even care about Wcbb.
 
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What a great Thanksgiving present. Gives everyone of us something to be thankful for. :D
 
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LadyVolFan said:
It was an absolute debacle. TN goes down 17 before half and not one timeout was taken.
We didn't deserve to win, Chatt outplayed us in every facet of the game. JJ was the only player who appeared interested.
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Thanks LV Fan for your honesty.

But isn't it interesting how UTC seems to have the Lady Vols number? A loss two years ago, and Tennessee's victory over Chatt last year was a squeaker if I remember correctly.
 
All of this takes a little of the onus off of Simmons' court behavior. With coaching like this and teammates like these, maybe her best alternative, from the standpoint of winning a game, was to jack up a shot whenever possible.
 
HoopsFan21 said:
Tennessee recruits great players. UCONN recruits great team players. Therein lies the difference in their success over the past couple of decades.
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Plus a great coaching staff!
 
I realize that most of my fellow Boneyarders do not share my view that we have entered an entirely new era insofar as our "relationship" with UTenn is concerned, but I still think the residual passion is outdated and overdone. All the schadenfreude going around on both sides over the failings of the other strike me as kind of silly. Right now we are two one-loss teams, simply that, and neither side has yet established any particular bragging rights for this season. I also don't get all this obsession with polls and their relative "significance." The ONLY poll worth caring about is the one that comes out on the morning of April 8th, about 4 1/2 months from now. Until then, why care?
 
Well, I would argue that an OT loss to Stanford at Maples is a little different than losing to UT-Chattanooga. Plus, it's fun to have enemies in sports. And I will always enjoy watching that program lose games. :)
 
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Can't wait to hear what Margo has to say about the loss. As of this post, she hasn't uploaded a video yet.

Lady Vols also play Texas in Texas on Sunday. They could easily have a two game losing streak by the time Sunday night comes.
 
Wbbfan1 said:
Can't wait to hear what Margo has to say about the loss. As of this post, she hasn't uploaded a video yet.

Lady Vols also play Texas in Texas on Sunday. They could easily have a two game losing streak by the time Sunday night comes.
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Yes, I have searched for Margo in vain. Hope she does. We could have a poll on how many times she says, yells, screams "Are you kidding me!!!"
 
Couple of thoughts.... Bigpetunia, yes your stance of let things alone is noble, but I think the interest is tied into the fact that this is a program, led by HPS, that tried to abolish our program just 7 years ago..... and though they had nothing on us, continue to this day to accuse us of terrible wrongdoing...... it is shameful, and although I have no axe to grind against the present LV program, I am like many BYers in my disdain for this lack of proof and continued accusation to this day (The Summit is Exhibit A)......

Yes, Intpseeker, Ariel had made the statement before the season started that ..... something to the effect that the past couple of years the players thought they could get things done solo without paying due respect to the teachings of the coaches..... she said that the team has all bought in to Holly and Co. this year and implied results will be different..... I said at the time that this thought would be severely tested after the first upset loss they suffered...... and now I will have my antennae up to see if my prediction holds true.

Tonyc, good synopsis as usual..... TN needs so much to work on their fundamentals..... it seems they are stuck in a time warp, because i still hear from them..... "defense and rebounding"..... Holly said it again last night post game.... (at least she did not say "we are going to have to go back to the drawing board and learn from this"...... I even hear Tyler in his new job saying that WCBB eventually all comes down to defense and rebounding...... it is like they are still reading newspapers and using AmiPro down there...... I have not seen any novel offensive schemes run that would serve to show that they are in the mix with other like teams...... they seem to depend on individual athletic achievement..... one on one, bang the offensive glass.... etc.....

On the coaching situation, of course I think this is quite obviously the problem,.... someone went through the staff one by one, pointing out the shortcomings of all.... the one person I think can be good is Elzy, only because she had a pretty good tenure at KY..... the staff needs a good flush though I think..... and why can they not afford a HC at $400K to put them at the same level as other Top 10 programs? Holly is only making $75K as HCE...... she has to go also, even in light all that she has done..... if she is able to contribute something fine, but why prop her up as a symbol of past greatness (well deserved) when it only serves to cast an immense shadow on the incumbent and her staff? If Dave Hart is not wanting to emphasize the LVs, OK, but it does not take much, recruiting and expense budgets notwithstanding...... does TN want only to be an SEC football wannabe? and is that worth pursuing at singular purpose? Maybe you can break through the FLoridas and Georgias, etc..... Good Luck with that..... I know you won half the title in 98 I think..... keep pursuing that if that is most important to you
 
Butch said:
That's what the Puritans did after the Pequot War. Some even say Thanksgiving has it's origins in the defeat of the Pequots. :confused:
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"Some" would be totally out to lunch. Wrong time, wrong tribe, wrong war - in fact there was no war involved.
 
sarals24 said:
Well, I would argue that an OT loss to Stanford at Maples is a little different than losing to UT-Chattanooga. Plus, it's fun to have enemies in sports. And I will always enjoy watching that program lose games. :)
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Well, OK, but it seems so much more fun to expend that energy on the likes of ND!
 
Bigpetunia said:
Well, OK, but it seems so much more fun to expend that energy on the likes of ND!
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Oh believe me, if ND lost to UT-Chattanooga I would be equally pleased. But ND is too well-coached to let that happen. It's just so much fun to watch a meltdown mid-game on VolNation.
 
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I wonder when the last time both Tennessee and UCONN BOTH had one loss before Thanksgiving............. the 1980s ? 1950s ??
 
WOW......Just goes to show that on any given day a top team can go down to defeat. No team or ranking seems to be safe this season.

If a team is inconsistent or is prone to bad habits it will not last long in the The Big Dance......the team that can maintain a level of Excellance the longest will win the NC this year. There are no dominant teams this season......So far.
 
ericsandiego said:
Enjoyed your post. I bet their fans are hoping Jesus makes an appearance...! ;)
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He will, but he's a Gamecock fan.

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