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The state economy is killing the attendance. I agree 100%.

“Let us not seek the Republican answer or the Democratic answer, but the right answer. Let us not seek to fix the blame for the past. Let us accept our own responsibility for the future.” John F. Kennedy

JFK was a great leader....I wonder what happened to the Democrats - like Ella Grasso - of his era. JFK was not Teddy..

Of course, the Republicans of Thomas Meskill is not the same either...
 
Another tidbit I noticed this weekend was Uconn advertising that buying season tickets saves a minimum of $125 on single game tickets. This leads me to believe they are going to charge premium prices on Michigan, Maryland, and probably a big east game or two. Given that the cheaper season tickets are $175 for the season ($25 per) that means we're looking at either a huge markup on those games or single game tickets will be going for an average of just under $43.00 a game. Hopefully its just a big markup on the Michigan/Maryland games because now is not the time to price out the casual fan who attends 1-2 games a season

They did premium pricing for the Syracuse (MBB) and Baylor (WBB) games. It's something they're committed to.

Michigan is interesting because I wonder how many single-game tickets would even be available...but probably $50 face if there were any. I'd guess they also have Louisville/Maryland at $40-50.
 
Didn't they sell single game tickets at $35 last year. So that's 70 of the 125 out of the gate.

If they are doing more hopefully they don't swing and miss like they did with Syracuse.
 
I hope we can maintain an average attendance of 30,000. No way seasons ticket sales will reach 30,000.
 
I hope we can maintain an average attendance of 30,000. No way seasons ticket sales will reach 30,000.
Maybe not this year, but if Connecticut ever got smart and become business friendly, it might have 40K season tickets...
 
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Maybe not this year, but if Connecticut ever got smart and become business friendly, it might have 40K season tickets...

Business friendly? Like, the people who are supposed to occupy the chair backs but rarely ever show up? Those guys?

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Rarely is game attendance based on butts in seats. It is normally based on paid and comped number of seats.
 
Paltry endowment too. Hopefully this adminstration will begin to turn many of these issues around.


I don't know if it's a thing that can be turned around by an administration. You can identify specific areas you want to mprove (endowment, ticket sales, etc.) and attack those issues tactically, but the overall strategy - IMNSHO - involves a complete cultural shift in the region. THat's not easy to do, and takes a long time.

THere was a time, for over two centuries, that Connecticut was the hotbed of innovation and industry in this country. Over the past few decades, the culture has shifted to one of a welfare state funded by catering to the needs of large multinational corporations that don't provide many actual locally productive jobs. Elected officials, cater to the people that elect them.

I do know one thing, when you win, and win consistently, it generates interest. THere are many factors that play into the decline of ticket sales in recent years for basketball and football, but none, are as important as the simple fact that even in the 2011 championship year for men's hoops, the team was 9-9 in the regular season....

as for football, aside from a decent run at the second half of the 2010 season in football where we went 5-0 in a bunch of nail biter games, to get propelled into a fiesta matchup with Oklahoma, the team since the 2009 win over south carolina - is overall 18-19, and lost a bunch of games at home, that hurt a lot perception wise. Take out that 5-0 run when we were sitting at 3-4 in mid 2010, and the football program is 13-19 since beating South Carolina in 2009

GOing to ruffle some feathers here for sure, but looking back with the evidence now, I think it's more than safe to say, that Edsall peaked with his recruiting sometime b/w 2007-2008.

I know Pasqualoni's rep, and there's very little middle ground, you either like the guy or don't. But even football people that may not like the guy, all agree that he can recruit to build a top notch division 1-A, BCS, FBS - watever label program, andwe are well on our way.

It must begin to translate to wins though, or we'll have to move on to another recruiter, that can build such a program AND win.
 
... THere are many factors that play into the decline of ticket sales in recent years for basketball and football, but none, are as important as the simple fact that even in the 2011 championship year for men's hoops, the team was 9-9 in the regular season....

Don't mean to be nit-picky, Carl, but UConn was 9-9 during conference play (not including the Big East Tourney). They were 26-9 entering the NCAA Tournement, with some pretty impressive wins to boot.

Can't refute much of what you say about football (other than I don't agree with separating the 5-0 run from the rest of the record). UConn rarely lost at home under Coach Pasqualoni's predecessor. Observing a win makes one feel that much better and improves the surrounding environment. Continued wins at home (and a few on the road), makes people take notice and excited to see the next home game.
 
Another tidbit I noticed this weekend was Uconn advertising that buying season tickets saves a minimum of $125 on single game tickets. This leads me to believe they are going to charge premium prices on Michigan, Maryland, and probably a big east game or two. Given that the cheaper season tickets are $175 for the season ($25 per) that means we're looking at either a huge markup on those games or single game tickets will be going for an average of just under $43.00 a game. Hopefully its just a big markup on the Michigan/Maryland games because now is not the time to price out the casual fan who attends 1-2 games a season
If Michigan fans bought a bunch of season tix, look for these "premium" prices to be available on the cheap on StubHub.

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One other question. Does anyone know what season tix go for at other AAC schools? I feel like UConn will not realize that we're not playing teams people are dying to see and so they won't adjust their ticket prices. Outside of a few interesting OOC games, can they really still charge the same as they did when we were in the BE? (I admit I'm not sure where we stand compared to other conference mates prices)

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One other question. Does anyone know what season tix go for at other AAC schools? I feel like UConn will not realize that we're not playing teams people are dying to see and so they won't adjust their ticket prices. Outside of a few interesting OOC games, can they really still charge the same as they did when we were in the BE? (I admit I'm not sure where we stand compared to other conference mates prices)

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I don't care who we are playing $25/ a game is a great deal. You can't get student tickets at a lot of schools for that price! I think the real battle here has to do with the excitement of the team in general. Even with winning seasons, under Edsall UConn football has never been exciting, add PP + a GDL offense and that is the formula for losing appeal which is the real issue here, not who we are playing.
 
Season ticket sales must be a closely guarded state secret. Maybe last second push to announce count above 30k?
 
Season ticket sales must be a closely guarded state secret. Maybe last second push to announce count above 30k?
Single game tix go on sale in about 2 weeks (based on past years). We should hear something by then. My guess is 23k. Hope I'm way low on that guess though...
 
I would put money we sell 30k. I know people who bought season tix who never have before just for Michigan. We sold 23,000 with an iffy sched and not great team last year. I would be shocked if we cannot get 7k more with an amazing schedule.
 
Meh, that's a lot of doom & gloom. We have not peaked in interest. CT sports fans are spoiled brats. This team is going to have to make a splash nationally to gain some extra momentum. The sellouts from the early days had scores of empty seats, those seats have filled in over the years. 2014 will be a challenge, but hopefully we'll have an ACC or B1G invite down the road that should further build interest and the fanbase.

"Spoiled brats" is a little strong. Discerning is more appropriate. Good marketers don't get angry with people that don't buy their products; not if they want to stay employed. They fix the product or the perception that is hurting the product. This is not Nebraska or Oklahoma. There is a lot of other stuff to do in New England, in the fall, and none of it involves cow patties.

That being said, the schedule and a good team that competes every week should equal sell-outs.
 
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BUT--more and more students are coming in from out of state. So when they graduate they leave. There were very few out of state students going back 20-30+ years. And CT is consistently losing residents. I have no idea what Boston is like, but I've been living in CT and working in NYC for 18 years. There is a HUGE difference between the NYC economy and the economy in CT at this point and over the last few years.

I don't think it means anything with regards to recent season ticket sales, but the fact that there are fewer and fewer great career options in CT will definitely hurt both the state and sports attendance in the long run.
that is a whole different argument/issue then. Connecticut's economy relied on a two legged stool for pretty much the post war period. Insurance and defense. I used to know the numbers but those were the two prime movers and it wasn't even close. neither of those have been growth stocks, in part because of advances in manufacturing. Pratt& whitney at its height in the 1970s employed 40,000 in East Hartford. Even if you ignore the politics ( they made a conscious effort beginning in the 1980s to move subcontracting out of Connecticut for the simple reason that if they had subcontractors in Ohio and Indiana they could get votes from congressmen from Ohio and Indiana), and the economics of moving work out of Connecticut, they simply don't need 40,000 people to produce things today even if they had a larger workload. Since we're not at war and nobody is shooting planes out of the sky, they don't have a similar demand anyway. Same thing with EB. Connecticut was very slow to get into the diversification business. They continued to prop up these older industries with policies for decades after it became clear that they were not the future. For years we had rules on finacial services that were designed for the insurance industry but limited the ability of banks and investment banks, basically any non-insurance business to operate. and that was fine with the big insurers. Kept them from having to compete. It has only been in the last few years that we've really seem Connecticut get aggressive in seeking new industries as distinct from new business. We made a modest effort to attract pharmaceutical firmswith some success, but that effort focused on bringing in/expanding big firms, in hopes they would spin off smaller firms. Unfortunately that industry went the opposite direction and consolidated in to a few even larger players. Rather than spin off small firms, it tended to gobble them up as soon as they ahd anything like a hit. Bioscience is different and we're really approaching it differently, too. Focusing on smaller firms, different kind of assistance too and in 10-15 years could be a major new industry.
 
Maybe not this year, but if Connecticut ever got smart and become business friendly, it might have 40K season tickets...
What the hell does that mean? Connecticut was business friendly for years when it had state established pricing for furniture and appliances. And for legal services. One reason we have the highest electric prices in the country is that for decades we basically gave the utilities everything they wanted even when it made no sense. the problem is that we've bet the house on older shrinking industries, not growing ones. heck we pretty much destroyed a whole town to make way for Pfizer, who didn't live up to one of their promises and then left town as soon as their tax breaks ended. Business friendly is a silly Chamber of commerce term tha means absolutley nothing.
 
What the hell does that mean? Connecticut was business friendly for years when it had state established pricing for furniture and appliances. And for legal services. One reason we have the highest electric prices in the country is that for decades we basically gave the utilities everything they wanted even when it made no sense. the problem is that we've bet the house on older shrinking industries, not growing ones. heck we pretty much destroyed a whole town to make way for Pfizer, who didn't live up to one of their promises and then left town as soon as their tax breaks ended. Business friendly is a silly Chamber of commerce term tha means absolutley nothing.
We are friendly sure. That's the reason that every business in the state is lining up to get out.
 
That's just not true. Even the gun co. Moving to South Carolina isn't really moving. A huge issue here is energy costs. But we get hit on 2 fronts. We gave the utilities whatever they wanted for decades and we have private utilities going up against public ones like the TVA and other public power authorities. Who produce much cheaper electricity...Ct has never been a place where young people flocked. It has always been attractive to families and older people. I can get you data on it.
 
What the hell does that mean? Connecticut was business friendly for years when it had state established pricing for furniture and appliances. And for legal services. One reason we have the highest electric prices in the country is that for decades we basically gave the utilities everything they wanted even when it made no sense. the problem is that we've bet the house on older shrinking industries, not growing ones. heck we pretty much destroyed a whole town to make way for Pfizer, who didn't live up to one of their promises and then left town as soon as their tax breaks ended. Business friendly is a silly Chamber of commerce term tha means absolutley nothing.

We also have the some of the highest taxes and cost of living which drives people and businesses away
 
We also have the some of the highest taxes and cost of living which drives people and businesses away

Plus CT has the second-highest average income per capita, one of the best public education systems in the country and is one of the most literate and healthy states in the country.

But don't let the facts get in the way of a good illogical taxation rant.



You. Get. What. You. Pay. For.
 
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Plus CT has the second-highest average income per capita, one of the best public education systems in the country and is one of the most literate and healthy states in the country.

But don't let the facts get in the way of a good illogical taxation rant.



You. Get. What. You. Pay. For.
Yes, we are still number one for income per capita and top five for education and health. cheers to that. There are also plenty of metrics that paint a rather bleak picture. Population growth is very low, out migration (established households moving to other states) is high. thankfully we have moderate foreign in migration to keep our population increasing by a tiny bit.
 
Yes, we are still number one for income per capita and top five for education and health. cheers to that. There are also plenty of metrics that paint a rather bleak picture. Population growth is very low, out migration (established households moving to other states) is high. thankfully we have moderate foreign in migration to keep our population increasing by a tiny bit.


Makin' cash, bein' smart, not dying.

I'll lead those metrics any day of the week. Just gotta add dominant football, then we're set!
 
Yes, we are still number one for income per capita and top five for education and health. cheers to that. There are also plenty of metrics that paint a rather bleak picture. Population growth is very low, out migration (established households moving to other states) is high. thankfully we have moderate foreign in migration to keep our population increasing by a tiny bit.


Not sure if you've looked around the world recently, but population growth should slow down and we should really be focusing on judging ourselves by other metrics. It is also firmly established that population growth strongly mirrors education levels so I don't think low population growth is a "bleak" picture.
 
Not sure if you've looked around the world recently, but population growth should slow down and we should really be focusing on judging ourselves by other metrics. It is also firmly established that population growth strongly mirrors education levels so I don't think low population growth is a "bleak" picture.
Its a measure of health. And a reflection of people voting on economic policy and opportunities with their feet. You want to see moderate growth. A rising population tide lifts many boats, such as the local pizza shop and gas station and in turn it leads too an expanding tax base which is imperative to partially mitigating future government pension obligations. Most people will have the majority of their personal networth tied to the value of their home. It is difficult to have home price inflation at CPI in communities that arent growing unless they are vacation areas.
 
Plus CT has the second-highest average income per capita, one of the best public education systems in the country and is one of the most literate and healthy states in the country.

But don't let the facts get in the way of a good illogical taxation rant.



You. Get. What. You. Pay. For.


So why are businesses leaving? Riddle me that
 
Not sure if you've looked around the world recently, but population growth should slow down and we should really be focusing on judging ourselves by other metrics. It is also firmly established that population growth strongly mirrors education levels so I don't think low population growth is a "bleak" picture.


Not to turn this into the cesspool but go look at our inner cities and let me know how those metrics add up to you
 
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