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I would put money we sell 30k. I know people who bought season tix who never have before just for Michigan. We sold 23,000 with an iffy sched and not great team last year. I would be shocked if we cannot get 7k more with an amazing schedule.
 
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Meh, that's a lot of doom & gloom. We have not peaked in interest. CT sports fans are spoiled brats. This team is going to have to make a splash nationally to gain some extra momentum. The sellouts from the early days had scores of empty seats, those seats have filled in over the years. 2014 will be a challenge, but hopefully we'll have an ACC or B1G invite down the road that should further build interest and the fanbase.

"Spoiled brats" is a little strong. Discerning is more appropriate. Good marketers don't get angry with people that don't buy their products; not if they want to stay employed. They fix the product or the perception that is hurting the product. This is not Nebraska or Oklahoma. There is a lot of other stuff to do in New England, in the fall, and none of it involves cow patties.

That being said, the schedule and a good team that competes every week should equal sell-outs.
 
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BUT--more and more students are coming in from out of state. So when they graduate they leave. There were very few out of state students going back 20-30+ years. And CT is consistently losing residents. I have no idea what Boston is like, but I've been living in CT and working in NYC for 18 years. There is a HUGE difference between the NYC economy and the economy in CT at this point and over the last few years.

I don't think it means anything with regards to recent season ticket sales, but the fact that there are fewer and fewer great career options in CT will definitely hurt both the state and sports attendance in the long run.
that is a whole different argument/issue then. Connecticut's economy relied on a two legged stool for pretty much the post war period. Insurance and defense. I used to know the numbers but those were the two prime movers and it wasn't even close. neither of those have been growth stocks, in part because of advances in manufacturing. Pratt& whitney at its height in the 1970s employed 40,000 in East Hartford. Even if you ignore the politics ( they made a conscious effort beginning in the 1980s to move subcontracting out of Connecticut for the simple reason that if they had subcontractors in Ohio and Indiana they could get votes from congressmen from Ohio and Indiana), and the economics of moving work out of Connecticut, they simply don't need 40,000 people to produce things today even if they had a larger workload. Since we're not at war and nobody is shooting planes out of the sky, they don't have a similar demand anyway. Same thing with EB. Connecticut was very slow to get into the diversification business. They continued to prop up these older industries with policies for decades after it became clear that they were not the future. For years we had rules on finacial services that were designed for the insurance industry but limited the ability of banks and investment banks, basically any non-insurance business to operate. and that was fine with the big insurers. Kept them from having to compete. It has only been in the last few years that we've really seem Connecticut get aggressive in seeking new industries as distinct from new business. We made a modest effort to attract pharmaceutical firmswith some success, but that effort focused on bringing in/expanding big firms, in hopes they would spin off smaller firms. Unfortunately that industry went the opposite direction and consolidated in to a few even larger players. Rather than spin off small firms, it tended to gobble them up as soon as they ahd anything like a hit. Bioscience is different and we're really approaching it differently, too. Focusing on smaller firms, different kind of assistance too and in 10-15 years could be a major new industry.
 
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Maybe not this year, but if Connecticut ever got smart and become business friendly, it might have 40K season tickets...
What the hell does that mean? Connecticut was business friendly for years when it had state established pricing for furniture and appliances. And for legal services. One reason we have the highest electric prices in the country is that for decades we basically gave the utilities everything they wanted even when it made no sense. the problem is that we've bet the house on older shrinking industries, not growing ones. heck we pretty much destroyed a whole town to make way for Pfizer, who didn't live up to one of their promises and then left town as soon as their tax breaks ended. Business friendly is a silly Chamber of commerce term tha means absolutley nothing.
 
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What the hell does that mean? Connecticut was business friendly for years when it had state established pricing for furniture and appliances. And for legal services. One reason we have the highest electric prices in the country is that for decades we basically gave the utilities everything they wanted even when it made no sense. the problem is that we've bet the house on older shrinking industries, not growing ones. heck we pretty much destroyed a whole town to make way for Pfizer, who didn't live up to one of their promises and then left town as soon as their tax breaks ended. Business friendly is a silly Chamber of commerce term tha means absolutley nothing.
We are friendly sure. That's the reason that every business in the state is lining up to get out.
 
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That's just not true. Even the gun co. Moving to South Carolina isn't really moving. A huge issue here is energy costs. But we get hit on 2 fronts. We gave the utilities whatever they wanted for decades and we have private utilities going up against public ones like the TVA and other public power authorities. Who produce much cheaper electricity...Ct has never been a place where young people flocked. It has always been attractive to families and older people. I can get you data on it.
 

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What the hell does that mean? Connecticut was business friendly for years when it had state established pricing for furniture and appliances. And for legal services. One reason we have the highest electric prices in the country is that for decades we basically gave the utilities everything they wanted even when it made no sense. the problem is that we've bet the house on older shrinking industries, not growing ones. heck we pretty much destroyed a whole town to make way for Pfizer, who didn't live up to one of their promises and then left town as soon as their tax breaks ended. Business friendly is a silly Chamber of commerce term tha means absolutley nothing.

We also have the some of the highest taxes and cost of living which drives people and businesses away
 

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We also have the some of the highest taxes and cost of living which drives people and businesses away

Plus CT has the second-highest average income per capita, one of the best public education systems in the country and is one of the most literate and healthy states in the country.

But don't let the facts get in the way of a good illogical taxation rant.



You. Get. What. You. Pay. For.
 

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Plus CT has the second-highest average income per capita, one of the best public education systems in the country and is one of the most literate and healthy states in the country.

But don't let the facts get in the way of a good illogical taxation rant.



You. Get. What. You. Pay. For.
Yes, we are still number one for income per capita and top five for education and health. cheers to that. There are also plenty of metrics that paint a rather bleak picture. Population growth is very low, out migration (established households moving to other states) is high. thankfully we have moderate foreign in migration to keep our population increasing by a tiny bit.
 

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Yes, we are still number one for income per capita and top five for education and health. cheers to that. There are also plenty of metrics that paint a rather bleak picture. Population growth is very low, out migration (established households moving to other states) is high. thankfully we have moderate foreign in migration to keep our population increasing by a tiny bit.


Makin' cash, bein' smart, not dying.

I'll lead those metrics any day of the week. Just gotta add dominant football, then we're set!
 

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Yes, we are still number one for income per capita and top five for education and health. cheers to that. There are also plenty of metrics that paint a rather bleak picture. Population growth is very low, out migration (established households moving to other states) is high. thankfully we have moderate foreign in migration to keep our population increasing by a tiny bit.


Not sure if you've looked around the world recently, but population growth should slow down and we should really be focusing on judging ourselves by other metrics. It is also firmly established that population growth strongly mirrors education levels so I don't think low population growth is a "bleak" picture.
 

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Not sure if you've looked around the world recently, but population growth should slow down and we should really be focusing on judging ourselves by other metrics. It is also firmly established that population growth strongly mirrors education levels so I don't think low population growth is a "bleak" picture.
Its a measure of health. And a reflection of people voting on economic policy and opportunities with their feet. You want to see moderate growth. A rising population tide lifts many boats, such as the local pizza shop and gas station and in turn it leads too an expanding tax base which is imperative to partially mitigating future government pension obligations. Most people will have the majority of their personal networth tied to the value of their home. It is difficult to have home price inflation at CPI in communities that arent growing unless they are vacation areas.
 

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Plus CT has the second-highest average income per capita, one of the best public education systems in the country and is one of the most literate and healthy states in the country.

But don't let the facts get in the way of a good illogical taxation rant.



You. Get. What. You. Pay. For.


So why are businesses leaving? Riddle me that
 

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Not sure if you've looked around the world recently, but population growth should slow down and we should really be focusing on judging ourselves by other metrics. It is also firmly established that population growth strongly mirrors education levels so I don't think low population growth is a "bleak" picture.


Not to turn this into the cesspool but go look at our inner cities and let me know how those metrics add up to you
 

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UCONN should have 30,000+ season tickets when all is said and done. Not sure how that won't happen considering this is the best schedule even at The Rent
 

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So why are businesses leaving? Riddle me that

Because states like Texas are offering ridiculous tax credits- and much, much, much worse qualities of life.
 
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UCONN should have 30,000+ season tickets when all is said and done. Not sure how that won't happen considering this is the best schedule even at The Rent
Thank you, Bill
 
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Makin' cash, bein' smart, not dying.

I'll lead those metrics any day of the week. Just gotta add dominant football, then we're set!
Called the QLI (Quality of Life Index) of which Ct is ranked high. Plus any very high population density, diverse state such as ours is going to have problems that need to be addressed or at least attempted to control simply because of having people live so close together. Just easier here to have people step on each other's toes.
 

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UCONN should have 30,000+ season tickets when all is said and done. Not sure how that won't happen considering this is the best schedule even at The Rent
That would put us in company with Miami.

UM is not releasing full sales numbers and, as a private institution, is not required to do so.

But Miami officials are confident they'll sell 30,000 season tickets this season. Packages start at $98
 

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Plus CT has the second-highest average income per capita, one of the best public education systems in the country and is one of the most literate and healthy states in the country.

But don't let the facts get in the way of a good illogical taxation rant.



You. Get. What. You. Pay. For.

The funny thing is every time anyone young from Connecticut moves south, those of us here just sort of nod and say yep that makes sense. It's like watching natural selection in real time.
 
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We also have the some of the highest taxes and cost of living which drives people and businesses away

And the highest quality of life. Give/take.

People, like businesses, often pay more to get more.

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Plus CT has the second-highest average income per capita, one of the best public education systems in the country and is one of the most literate and healthy states in the country.

But don't let the facts get in the way of a good illogical taxation rant.



You. Get. What. You. Pay. For.


Just look at this and I will end this part of the discussion on this topic
 
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The funny thing is every time anyone young from Connecticut moves south, those of us here just sort of nod and say yep that makes sense. It's like watching natural selection in real time.

Yes, natural selection. Youve been put out to pasture. Hope your kids avoid a deep country slang!

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Yes, we are still number one for income per capita and top five for education and health. cheers to that. There are also plenty of metrics that paint a rather bleak picture. Population growth is very low, out migration (established households moving to other states) is high. thankfully we have moderate foreign in migration to keep our population increasing by a tiny bit.

Didn't I just read that only Fairfield County has experienced recent population growth?
 
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