Celts.

[amory]

Bazz should be a good backup to Rondo for 3 + years. Bazz is not a starter at the NBA level.

lots of people said that about Kemba, too.

 

[tdrink]

Bazz should be a good backup to Rondo for 3 + years. Bazz is not a starter at the NBA level.

I'm not sure how you can write Shabazz off from anything. The kid constantly proves the doubters wrong.

 

[RayRay19]

Gordon/Vonleh/Smart/Randle in that order

 

[Inyatkin]

Will Celts pass on McDermott, the best white shooter in years?

I get that we have a whole other thread on this, but are the Celtics supposed to be looking for "the best white shooter in years"?

 

[Jluc]

As a Celtics fan, this would be my two year plan.
- Monster trade shipping out Rondo, Green, Sullinger, and pick 6 netting Kevin Love , future picks
- Kevin Love signs a damn extension
- offer contract to Greg Monroe
- Shabazz at 17
- Stanley Johnson first round of 2015
- sign Danny Green 2015 offseason

Shabazz/Green/Johnson/Love/Monroe

Thats still barley a playoff starting 5 at best.

 

[azescobar]

Um, just becuase you're white and can shoot doesn't make you Larry Bird. I don't want to go into a history lesson, but Bird is a top ten all time great. Dougy McBuckets might be one of the best ten rookies in his class - he ain't no Larry Bird. Bird had career averages of about 24, 10, 5, 90%, 40%. He is probably the best passing forward of all time. He had the heart of a damn lion, was a natural leader and played with as much confidence in his prime as MJ.

Enough of that rant - I am a Cs fan - bummed about the sixth pick but I think in this year's draft (Napier aside), in 5 years the top 3 of the draft may not necessarily be the "big 3" of Wiggins, Embid, Parker. I think Randle at 6 is the safest bet if he's there - pretty sure he's a legit double-double in the NBA. I think Aaron Gordon has great upside, and can develop into a high energy defensive/rebounder type - like a Shawn Marion. Vonleh is getting a lot of hype lately, and may be solid, but I'm not sure how good he will be. Tough spot - I really just hope this pick turns into Kevin Love with some other manuevuring.

 

[Inyatkin]

I really don't like Julius Randle. I don't think his game will translate well (keep that in mind when we dredge up the "Who Surprised You With Their NBA Career" thread). I'm not sure who they should go with, but I hope it isn't Randle.

I tend to agree with you here, but I'm wondering if I'm putting too much into his underwhelming title game.

 

[arch]

Bazz should be a good backup to Rondo for 3 + years. Bazz is not a starter at the NBA level.

According to this thread Bazz isn't an NBA starter, Rondo is a max contract NBA starter. Is Rondo that much quicker than Bazz? I can't believe Rondo is that much better a passer, shooter, rebounder, playmaker.

 

[Nostical]

I'll take Shabazz. He's going to be a star. Friend of mine in FL says the Heat are very high on him. He will go a lot higher than projected.

 

[methodology]

#17 is too high to justify taking Bazz. Its just the way it is as this is the deepest draft class since LeBron's. You cant just take him because he is a Boston kid, there are going to be higher ceiling players and better fits for the Celts at that pick (I think they trade the pick along with #6 personally).

I think the Spurs end up taking Bazz and he backs up Tony Parker until he leaves in 3 years to retire. He will be groomed to Parker to carry the Spurs into their transition from the Parker/Duncan/Manu era.

 

[James]

#17 is too high to justify taking Bazz. Its just the way it is as this is the deepest draft class since LeBron's. You cant just take him because he is a Boston kid, there are going to be higher ceiling players and better fits for the Celts at that pick (I think they trade the pick along with #6 personally).

I think the Spurs end up taking Bazz and he backs up Tony Parker until he leaves in 3 years to retire. He will be groomed to Parker to carry the Spurs into their transition from the Parker/Duncan/Manu era.

Napier slipping that far isn't happening. Clippers , or Heat. both of those teams need pg's more than spurs , and each respective franchise player is enamored by shabazz.

Ainge gotta draft Randle/Vonleh and call it day. He can draft a guy like Lavine @ 17, but he is nothing more than Jared Cunningham with no defense. Kyle Anderson IMO a better prospect. Or you guys can trade everything for kevin love (Kevin Love is not Garnett or Lebron, the hype has gotten out of control).

 

[elduderino]

According to this thread Bazz isn't an NBA starter, Rondo is a max contract NBA starter. Is Rondo that much quicker than Bazz? I can't believe Rondo is that much better a passer, shooter, rebounder, playmaker.

We all love Bazz but come on, he's years away from being Rondo in terms of court vision, passing, handle, and getting to the hoop. Bazz may get there, and I hope he does, but comparing the two of them, at least right now, just doesn't make sense.

 

[DogMania]

Gordon/Vonleh/Smart/Randle in that order

Need wise, I'd take Gordon if there. He can plan inside and go outside as a stretch 4.

If not on the board, then I'd go with Randle. IMO, he's got a lot of upside. He can put it on the floor, which for some idiotic reason he didn't do till far too late in the NC game against us. The C's need rebounding help and he'll provide that along with some post scoring as he matures. He can also hit the midrange J and should get better at that.

Wasn't impressed with Vonheh. I know he's young, but didn't seem like a smart player. Not sure if he has the killer makeup you need in an NBA 4.

They don't need to 2G, but Smart is going to be a good one. He's already got a strong physical NBA body.

Bottom line, if Gordon or Randle are still on the board, they'll do fine with either.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Between Randle and Gordon you've got to take Gordon. Freak athlete who's only going to get better. And he's almost a full year younger than Randle, which people don't appreciate. The kid won't even turn 19 until September.

 

[DogMania]

I'll take Shabazz. He's going to be a star. Friend of mine in FL says the Heat are very high on him. He will go a lot higher than projected.

Bazz would be a nice pickup with their second pick if they decide they want to move Rondo. If they could add Bazz and get a very good need player for Rondo, I'd be okay with that. I still don't know what to think of Rondo. He's not all that great in the half-court as far as setting up his teammates. He's good in transition as far as that goes. He's not a good jumpshooter. Great defender though.

Add Bazz to run the team, get a very good 5, 4 or 3 for Rondo, why not?

 

[pnete]

I get that we have a whole other thread on this, but are the Celtics supposed to be looking for "the best white shooter in years"?

Yes. Bird and Havilcek and Nelson and Ainge and Wedman.. This has been a Celt tradition.

 

[pnete]

We all love Bazz but come on, he's years away from being Rondo in terms of court vision, passing, handle, and getting to the hoop. Bazz may get there, and I hope he does, but comparing the two of them, at least right now, just doesn't make sense.

Bazz is going to the Heat if he is there. Lebron has the ball and will flip it back to Bazz all day.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Yes. Bird and Havilcek and Nelson and Ainge and Wedman.. This has been a Celt tradition.

Can't wait for the announcement from Ainge that the Celtics are in search of the best possible white shooter.

 

[traitor71]

Can't wait for the announcement from Ainge that the Celtics are in search of the best possible white shooter.

If this was the NFL draft would we see a graphic displaying "Mel's top 5 best available white shooters"?

 

[elduderino]

Bazz is going to the Heat if he is there. Lebron has the ball and will flip it back to Bazz all day.

OK, sweet! And I'll be a pants-tenting Heat fan all night!

 

[pnete]

Can't wait for the announcement from Ainge that the Celtics are in search of the best possible white shooter.

Won't ever happen.

 

[Inyatkin]

Yes. Bird and Havilcek and Nelson and Ainge and Wedman.. This has been a Celt tradition.

Stop and think about this for five seconds.

 

[intlzncster]

According to this thread Bazz isn't an NBA starter, Rondo is a max contract NBA starter. Is Rondo that much quicker than Bazz? I can't believe Rondo is that much better a passer, shooter, rebounder, playmaker.

Rondo is a phenomenal athlete. That's one of the big reasons Ainge drafted him. He's very very long too. And Bazz is not better than him in anything but shooting.

 

[intlzncster]

Won't ever happen.

lol

 

[elduderino]

lol

I wasn't sure whether to laugh or cry for him there...