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sun said:
They should not be held to different standards, and I don't think they would be if they were both starting in the tourney or a NC game.
Win or lose, they do it as a team.
They wouldn't be able to get to the FF without each other contributing.
Right now, we all realize just how important CW is.
Neither CW nor Caroline are good enough to beat the ranked teams without each other contributing, plus the rest of the team.
There's not a lot of room for error by anyone unless we suddenly develop some excess scoring capacity with Paige and Azzi playing.
It's a long storm alright.
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I agree
 
Caroline already makes great decisions about when to shoot. You can see that she restrains herself or just isn't feeling it sometimes so she doesn't shoot. No one needs to restrain her. She's making solid decisions already. A lot of players are shooting 31% or so for 3 pointers. The kids often shoot better as the year goes on. She's just starting. Chances are this small sample size data skews up over time.
 
What we've seen in many games is that an early lead gets squandered.
Officiating is never perfect, but turnovers and missed shots are the mistakes that are usually to blame.
IMO every missed shot is an opportunity lost unless there's a RB and follow up basket.
Everyone needs to be more perfect in order to win more games.
 
TeamFirst! said:
May I remind the board that SOMEONE has to shoot. Is anyone better? You can't go in the paint ever time.
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Well we certainly should be able to go into the paint almost every time against most of our opponents. And this, as many have noted, would help Caroline get plenty of "open" looks from beyond the arc.
 
sun said:
The PG also helps decide who gets to shoot.
When Caroline started missing too many shots the passes went to other players.
And Caroline helps decide too by not shooting once she realizes that she's accumulated a lot of misses.
She also needs to have some confidence in her teammates, like Liv and whoever else that may get a hot hand.
She's a smart cookie, she'll learn when to shoot & not shoot, or else she'll get pulled out or there will be a time out.
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Yes, the point guard has a hand in who gets to shoot... unfortunately, after watching the Oregon game twice, I had confirmed what I've seen before: Nika rarely passes the ball to Caroline when she's wide open (as well as not early enough to Dorka and Olivia in the post). The best scoring chances Caroline gets is when she receives passes from Liv. Nika gets raves from so many for all the great things she brings as point guard. Just what are those things?

If she doesn't score, doesn't get many assists and turns it over often, how is it that she's the point guard so many believe she is? (and a close look at the defense she plays might dissuade a few folks about the supposedly standout D she gives the Huskies).

Yes, I understand our sad state of affairs as far as guards available, and I know Evina isn't playing well, but when some here criticize Dorka, Evina or Caroline, they need to remember just who it is supposedly initiating the half-court offense.

Here's hoping Nika can turn in the kind of 12-point, six-assist, 2 TOs game vs. Seton Hall that we'd need from her to give the Huskies a much better chance to win.
 
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Other teams are packing the paint ever since Louisville and Georgia Tech. The outside shots are available. Of course against teams with no height even packing it in doesn't stop our bigs. I'm all for getting the bigs the ball but it would be a lot easier if we could nail some 3 pointers.
 
Ball n said:
Geno, with thousands of games of experience knows ; If you tell a Freshman to not shoot under certain conditions she may never shoot. So, the choice is Shoot when you feel you are ready or don't get any production from her. With Caroline, often in games, as the ONLY scorer shooting what choice does Geno have?
Obviously, I agree with you.
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Actually, this makes me admire Caroline even more as it shows her willingness and desire to do what her coach asks her to do! Yes, she was 1-8 but at least she kept trying to do what coach asked. We’ve seen and continue to see that some of the other players have not done that.
 
Centerstream said:
Well we certainly should be able to go into the paint almost every time against most of our opponents. And this, as many have noted, would help Caroline get plenty of "open" looks from beyond the arc.
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Yeah, it’s not so easy when the other team is basically ignoring your outside game and are packing it in and closing down the lane while at the same time are focused on preventing entry passes to the posts. Meanwhile, that very skill, entry passes, is one of the weakest areas of this team. Paige was really the only player we had that was actually good at it. Everyone else seems to be a turnover waiting to happen. Either they don’t do it at all or they do it at the wrong time! It must be incredibly frustrating for Liv,Dorka, or AE to work their rear off getting position and then either ignored, get thrown a bad pass that negates all their work, or, what happens quite regularly, they (the guards) throw it too early or too late.
 
The deacon said:
Yes, the point guard has a hand in who gets to shoot... unfortunately, after watching the Oregon game twice, I had confirmed what I've seen before: Nika rarely passes the ball to Caroline when she's wide open (as well as not early enough to Dorka and Olivia in the post). The best scoring chances Caroline gets is when she receives passes from Liv. Nika gets raves from so many for all the great things she brings as point guard. Just what are those things?

If she doesn't score, doesn't get many assists and turns it over often, how is it that she's the point guard so many believe she is? (and a close look at the defense she plays might dissuade a few folks about the supposedly standout D she gives the Huskies).

Yes, I understand our sad state of affairs as far as guards available, and I know Evina isn't playing well, but when some here criticize Dorka, Evina or Caroline, they need to remember just who it is supposedly initiating the half-court offense.

Here's hoping Nika can turn in the kind of 12-point, six-assist, 2 TOs game vs. Seton Hall that we'd need from her to give the Huskies a much better chance to win.
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The Nika motor needs to run at 80%, just like a golfer needs to swing at that pace. She will then not dribble into double teams. She will see earlier who is open to pass and get the passes into shooter earlier. Our guard coaches have to drill this into her.
The mom needs new batteries and get her pace up to 80%. Don't dribble do much, more passing and open court offense is needed. Please run the offense without a 10+ second rundown of the clock setting up a stagnate half-court offense. Keep the bigs fresh with minutes from our promising bench core. Play zone when they come in, make the opponents shoot three. We win!
 
The deacon said:
Yes, the point guard has a hand in who gets to shoot... unfortunately, after watching the Oregon game twice, I had confirmed what I've seen before: Nika rarely passes the ball to Caroline when she's wide open (as well as not early enough to Dorka and Olivia in the post). The best scoring chances Caroline gets is when she receives passes from Liv. Nika gets raves from so many for all the great things she brings as point guard. Just what are those things?

If she doesn't score, doesn't get many assists and turns it over often, how is it that she's the point guard so many believe she is? (and a close look at the defense she plays might dissuade a few folks about the supposedly standout D she gives the Huskies).

Yes, I understand our sad state of affairs as far as guards available, and I know Evina isn't playing well, but when some here criticize Dorka, Evina or Caroline, they need to remember just who it is supposedly initiating the half-court offense.

Here's hoping Nika can turn in the kind of 12-point, six-assist, 2 TOs game vs. Seton Hall that we'd need from her to give the Huskies a much better chance to win.
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I’m not sure why someone gave you a thumbs down on your post because you’re correct. Nika sees a player in the lane too late for them to get the ball before the defense gets there. Even the announcers during the Oregon game kept saying “She missed Nelson Ododa. She was open on the baseline for a moment”. Getting the ball late happens to Dorka, too. Meg Culmo has said a million times, when a post player shows you her numbers, you have to get her the ball. If Dorka gets it at all, it’s usually in a bad position and she ends up with a turnover.

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HuskyNan said:
I’m not sure why someone gave you a thumbs down on your post because you’re correct. Nika sees a player in the lane too late for them to get the ball before the defense gets there. Even the announcers during the Oregon game kept saying “She missed Nelson Ododa. She was open on the baseline for a moment”. Getting the ball late happens to Dorka, too. Meg Culmo has said a million times, when a post player shows you her numbers, you have to get her the ball. If Dorka gets it at all, it’s usually in a bad position and she ends up with a turnover.

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Yes, yes, yes! Westbrook is also guilty of that. I would think the coaches would address that and, maybe they have.
 
HuskyNan said:
And put in who? Who will take a shot with the shot clock at 2? Who’s going to help handle the ball? Who will shoot threes to keep the defense packing the lane?
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There's always 4 other players on the court.
There's also mid-range shots that can be taken, and there's always the RB's from missed shots.
If more players can't make shots other than 3's then that would mean that UConn doesn't deserve to win.
Either they find a way to sink some shots or they lose.
You don't think that Caroline will score 50 or 60 points all by herself do you?
Dribbling to get open is part of the game for all of the guards.
And that's why they have picks, and kicking the ball back out after penetrating.
These players went to the FF, they should know that.
Geno should make them watch videos of some UConn games to show them what to do.
Maybe some of them drink too much coffee before the game and it makes them forget.
 
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sun said:
There's always 4 other players on the court.
There's also mid-range shots that can be taken, and there's always the RB's from missed shots.
If more players can't make shots other than 3's then that would mean that UConn doesn't deserve to win.
Either they find a way to sink some shots or they lose.
You don't think that Caroline will score 50 or 60 points all by herself do you?
Dribbling to get open is part of the game for all of the guards.
And that's why they have picks, and kicking the ball back out after penetrating.
These players went to the FF, they should know that.
Geno should make them watch videos of some UConn games to show them what to do.
Maybe some of them drink too much coffee before the game and it makes them forget.
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The only players making mid-range shots are Liv and Caroline. Who else have you seen make them with any kind of consistency?

You talk a lot about what SHOULD happen but this team hasn’t been doing most of that this season for some reason. It’s like you haven’t watched them at all.
 
freshler40 said:
The Nika motor needs to run at 80%, just like a golfer needs to swing at that pace. She will then not dribble into double teams. She will see earlier who is open to pass and get the passes into shooter earlier. Our guard coaches have to drill this into her.
The mom needs new batteries and get her pace up to 80%. Don't dribble do much, more passing and open court offense is needed. Please run the offense without a 10+ second rundown of the clock setting up a stagnate half-court offense. Keep the bigs fresh with minutes from our promising bench core. Play zone when they come in, make the opponents shoot three. We win!
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The problem, since Shea Ralph left, is that we don't have a guards coach and it shows in what Geno call our "bad guard play".
 
PvP said:
The problem, since Shea Ralph left, is that we don't have a guards coach and it shows in what Geno call our "bad guard play".
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Morgan Valley was a UConn guard for 4 years and is an assistant coach.
She must be the guard coach.
 
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HuskyNan said:
The only players making mid-range shots is Liv and Caroline. Who else have you seen make them with any kind of consistency?

You talk a lot about what SHOULD happen but this team hasn’t been doing most of that this season for some reason. It’s like you haven’t watched them at all.
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Couldn't agree more. Not looking to create an enemies, but this guy (sun) is so negative it's hard to believe he's a fan at all. He writes like the rest of us have never seen a basketball before, never watched a game, never played the game, have no ability to analyze and/or clearly see what needs to be done, etc., etc. If only we had all our tools (players) to work with our season undoubtedly would be a lot different. Many times when people try so hard to impress others with their Monday Morning QB skills, they actually do just the opposite.
 
Cuango said:
Would you bet on those percentages not getting farther apart by Mach? (In Caroline’s favor)
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It's March. CW is now at .371(39-105) while CD is now at .287(29-101).

I'm very happy for CW- she's stepped-up her 3pt shooting in the home stretch of her UCONN career- a very Senior thing to do.

As said previously, if CW, PB, and CD can improve their 3pt %, we've got a great shot at the FF.


Jletoile said:
Before the Oregon game, CD shot .347 from 3, on 17-49 shooting. That's exactly .020 points higher than Christyn, who has shot 17-52, for .327.

Yet, some fans seem to think CD, now at .316, is a better/much better long-range shooter.
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123me said:
it’s also the context of shot selection. cristyn’s shots are all relatively wide open (the defender slacks and has to recover). while caroline‘s is being guarded more closely than any other guard. if you pay attention to shot selection, when caroline is wide open she makes them extremely consistently. coaching staff should address that and have the team set more screens for her.
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Chris Dailey said on the radio post-game show that Caroline is just starting to feel 100% but hasn't yet played at the level she was at before the head injury. Hopefully she'll be the pre-injury Caroline in the BET.
 
Stop looking back.
That is so yesterday….
The future is now and it so much brighter now.
We have our swagger back and you can bet opposing players and coaches understand that
UCONN is back to being UCONN….they will fear us….we are still UCONN from the block.
And again….do not fear, PAIGE is here.
 
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Anyone notice her grimacing on the bench yesterday? Just love watching the kid. My all time favorite college player was Bradley….her play is so comparable!
 
I think Caroline is most effective around the basket. She has such a quick release and usually a hieght advantage over a guard in matchups. She also has a great pull mid range game and runs the break well and as we can see she alo can pass as the shovel pass to Dorka yesterday for the finish. When I watched her shoot pre UConn she was squared up and was not running around screens. and also took her time on the set up for the shot. Azzi has seemed to adjust better on her setup for the screening than Caroline on her 3 point shot. Caroline is someone who will better at it, I am sure. She is a scorer. The silent asassin!!!!!
 
The thing that really impresses me about Caroline is what a soft touch she has around the rim. With players around her she is able to simply get the ball on the rim, which allows the ball to stay within the rim as well as just kiss off of the backboard.
 
gold2323 said:
Stop looking back.
That is so yesterday….
The future is now and it so much brighter now.
We have our swagger back and you can bet opposing players and coaches understand that
UCONN is back to being UCONN….they will fear us….we are still UCONN from the block.
And again….do not fear, PAIGE is here.
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Is "Stop looking back." directed toward me? If so, why? I'm showing a great improvement by CW on her 3 pt shooting percentage. It's a tribute to her practice and focus as she heads down the stretch of her final season here.

"Don't look back"??? Bascom, Lobo, Rizotti, Wolters, Ralph, Svet, Sue, Swin, ad infinitum, no back-back losses in 19 seasons, 13 straight , 11 National Championships...you can bet your butt I look back! WE ARE THE PREMIER PROGRAM IN THE SPORTS HISTORY. WE LOOK BACK!
 
Jletoile said:
Is "Stop looking back." directed toward me? If so, why? I'm showing a great improvement by CW on her 3 pt shooting percentage. It's a tribute to her practice and focus as she heads down the stretch of her final season here.

"Don't look back"??? Bascom, Lobo, Rizotti, Wolters, Ralph, Svet, Sue, Swin, ad infinitum, no back-back losses in 19 seasons, 13 straight , 11 National Championships...you can bet your butt I look back! WE ARE THE PREMIER PROGRAM IN THE SPORTS HISTORY. WE LOOK BACK!
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Not to you
To the injuries…setbacks and reasons for the losses….not you but for everyone to know is a new start….a new and better team better chemistry etc etc….just that
G-D Bless
 
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