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No, it is decent. But what is her rate against top 10 teams?
That sample is too small to be meaningful. She was 0-4 against Baylor and 0-2 against ND. And 3 of the shots were in the opening ends. 2 in one position, all wide open. She played 17 minutes total.
 
Caroline is hitting 3s at a rate equal to .342. That is not horrendous as some imply. Kelly Mazzante shot that during two of her seasons.
Overall, UConn has excellent stats for the season. First in many categories. Unfortunately, UConn is often held to a higher standard. So, the only stat that really matters is that UConn has two wins and two losses against the top five teams, with those two losses being on their home court.
 
It's a lost cause, Ice.

Indeed. It's hardly just commenters on an internet message board. From Chris Elsberry's column in the Stamford Advocate:

I think we can take advantage in the next month of Morgan's (Tuck) talents because you're not going to be able to guard her and Stephanie (Dolson) if we play this team again, and you have to hope that in the next month that Breanna Stewart develops into the player that she used to be.

When the paid professionals aren't getting it right after three years, it's hard to hold amateur citizens to a higher standard.
 
Overall, UConn has excellent stats for the season. First in many categories. Unfortunately, UConn is often held to a higher standard. So, the only stat that really matters is that UConn has two wins and two losses against the top five teams, with those two losses being on their home court.
I agree, and both of those losses are filled with sufficient good news to believe they are readily reversible losses.
 
I'm not taking sides here, but certainly CD's performance has opened the door to discuss the issue. If all we're supposed to do is "compliment them at every turn", why participate in a board?
I agree, "If you can't say something bad about someone, don't say anything" Do these kids come where you work, and criticize you.
 
It's hard for me to criticize Caroline. Honestly, with what she's put her body through, anything she gives Uconn statistically is a plus. And the bottom line is she does know how to motivate her team.

Would it be nice to get more from her. Yes. Do I think it's not outrageous to think that Caroline should be able to make a few wide open shots. Sure. But you know what, she's taken 5 shots in big games this season. Players miss shots. She could make her next five.

Bottom line though, if the rest between regular season and post season allows Bria to come back to form, and Stewie gets herself together, we'll be fine..with or without Caroline contributing statistically.
 
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The girl has paid her dues in full!!! She's got the splinters from the bench, busted noses, knee operations, comes to play and practice every damn day, does'nt whine, and has heard the wrath of the almighty. (Geno that is). This girl has given 5 years of her life to this program. She starts. Period.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....
 
Although Caroline Doty is physically limited and often exposed in contests like last night's, giving the reins to a freshman point guard on a team with national championship aspirations is much more problematic than staying with Doty. Good point guards do not have to score. The better ones, though, are a threat to score. Doty camped out on the three point line still has to be accounted for. Although her contribution was minimal, I do not feel that her performance hurt us last night.

To bad Brianna Banks got hurt because she would have been a much better choice to start then Doty. I'm not sure UCONN can beat Baylor or Notre Dame with Doty starting. She seems to be lost in big games.
 
I may be disappointed in Doty's performance, but I am not disappointed in her. I'm proud to have someone of her character on a team I support. And if the coaches cut her a fraction more of a break than she "deserves" from a basketball standpoint, I'm glad to support a team whose coaches see the college game as something more than pure wins and losses. Excellence is important. But these kids, not pros. And no, scholarships don't mean they are getting paid.
 
The girl has paid her dues in full!!! She's got the splinters from the bench, busted noses, knee operations, comes to play and practice every damn day, does'nt whine, and has heard the wrath of the almighty. (Geno that is). This girl has given 5 years of her life to this program. She starts. Period.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

No. Everybody works hard. You play the people who give you the best chance to win. If Doty gives UConn the best chance to beat top teams like Baylor, ND or Stanford, then she should start, if not, then someone else should.
 
Those who can, at least try to succeed. Those who can't, comment anonymously.

Geno will figure it out and needs no help from anyone on the Boneyard to do it. If CD is in the game if and when we play Baylor again, he has a reason for doing it.
My simple theory in these situations is to "Trust Geno!"

Kelly Faris is Superwoman in disguise!!
 
. . . Bottom line though, if the rest between regular season and post season allows Bria to come back to form, and Stewie gets herself together, we'll be fine..with or without Caroline contributing statistically.

I agree. If Bria and Stewie can play at or near their potential then Caroline's
production or lack of it becomes relatively less important.
 
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Think about TV time and ad revenues. The more Caroline is on the court, the more your average man will be watching.
 
No. Everybody works hard. You play the people who give you the best chance to win. If Doty gives UConn the best chance to beat top teams like Baylor, ND or Stanford, then she should start, if not, then someone else should.
That's true, but no one has given 5 years. All the girls play hard. Some are still on the learning curve and never played in a game of this magnitude. Their time will come, as all will. Don't forget, six of the young ladies are either freshman or soph's. They to will have to earn it.
 
That's true, but no one has given 5 years. All the girls play hard. Some are still on the learning curve and never played in a game of this magnitude. Their time will come, as all will. Don't forget, six of the young ladies are either freshman or soph's. They to will have to earn it.

Heather Buck is there 5 years. She is sitting at the end of the bench and highfiving when someone makes a 3. Against opponents like Seton Hall, Providence, Holly Cross, etc...there are no super athletic guards and Caroline played great. However, Sims, Diggins, etc... neutralized her easily. She knows that and Geno knows that. He was hoping she could hit a couple of open shots to keep their defense honest. It is hard enough playing 5 on 5 against a team like Baylor, but when you play 3 1/2 against 5 you are bound to lose. I have nothing against Caroline, she is a great kid but her physical limitations are more glaring when her opponents are all AA calibers.
 
Heather Buck is there 5 years. She is sitting at the end of the bench and highfiving when someone makes a 3. Against opponents like Seton Hall, Providence, Holly Cross, etc...there are no super athletic guards and Caroline played great. However, Sims, Diggins, etc... neutralized her easily. She knows that and Geno knows that. He was hoping she could hit a couple of open shots to keep their defense honest. It is hard enough playing 5 on 5 against a team like Baylor, but when you play 3 1/2 against 5 you are bound to lose. I have nothing against Caroline, she is a great kid but her physical limitations are more glaring when her opponents are all AA calibers.
What does Heather Buck have to do with your post?

So with B Banks out what is your suggested course of action?
 
To bad Brianna Banks got hurt because she would have been a much better choice to start then Doty. I'm not sure UCONN can beat Baylor or Notre Dame with Doty starting. She seems to be lost in big games.
So, are you seriously blaming Doty for these losses?
 
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What does Heather Buck have to do with your post?

So with B Banks out what is your suggested course of action?
No one has a solution, but they all can say what not to do. Typical complaining for the sake of complaining. It ia getting so tiresome.
 
Short memories, this kid has earned some minutes on this team....Pull back on the reins............
What she has earned is a short leash and quick hook. I have a lot of respect for how hard she has worked to come back from serious injuries but the truth is she isn't much of a player anymore. She doesn't shoot well, her passes aren't accurate and she gets beat regularly on defense.
Doty isn't THE reason Uconn lost but she is one of them.
 
What she has earned is a short leash and quick hook. I have a lot of respect for how hard she has worked to come back from serious injuries but the truth is she isn't much of a player anymore. She doesn't shoot well, her passes aren't accurate and she gets beat regularly on defense.
Same thing has been true of Bria much of the season, Breanna is struggling, too. Even Kelly hasn't been as sharp as she was early in the year. Caroline no matter what is still the best available at organizing the offense. She is playing under 20 minutes per game. She was part of the great start against Baylor. She took and missed 4 3s one of which was a shot to beat the shot clock. The other 3 were wide open but not entirely spot up jumpers. Geno will limit her time when he isn't getting from her what he sees as needed.
 
I am amused (and amazed) at the number of posters who believe that simply throwing the five most athletic people on the court will win games. The general message is "Caroline isn't athletic enough any more so she should sit."
I submit, NOTHING could be further from the truth. There are many many teams that bring superb athletics to the game but still lose frequently.
Further, apparently Geno did not say "we lost because we weren't athletic enough" - instead he said (paraphrasing) "we lost because we weren't smart enough"
 
What she has earned is a short leash and quick hook. I have a lot of respect for how hard she has worked to come back from serious injuries but the truth is she isn't much of a player anymore. She doesn't shoot well, her passes aren't accurate and she gets beat regularly on defense.
Doty isn't THE reason Uconn lost but she is one of them.
What? Are you aware that during the first few minutes of the game where UCONN got up by 11, Doty was running the team for most of it.
 
I am amused (and amazed) at the number of posters who believe that simply throwing the five most athletic people on the court will win games. The general message is "Caroline isn't athletic enough any more so she should sit."
I submit, NOTHING could be further from the truth. There are many many teams that bring superb athletics to the game but still lose frequently.
Further, apparently Geno did not say "we lost because we weren't athletic enough" - instead he said (paraphrasing) "we lost because we weren't smart enough"


So you agree that Doty's "" comment was on the mark?
 
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So you agree that Doty's " " comment was on the mark?
Yes, Caroline understood she had been a dumba$$ and Geno affirmed that was her normal state of being. He did not say they lost because she was a dumba$$ Monday night more than everyone else. Caroline in her maturity understood the situation that is why someday she will be an excellent coach.
 
She doesn't shoot well, her passes aren't accurate and she gets beat regularly on defense. But almost always towards help. She rarely gets beat to the wrong side and her passes are fine.
Doty isn't THE reason Uconn lost but she is one of them.

BTW, when Bria runs the point her scoring goes down dramatically, too. It brings other responsibilities to the fore front.
 
Geno on numerous occasions has said that winning the NC requires excellent guard play. IMHO, as it stands now, none of the guards are performing at the requisite level. Unless CD, Bria, Moriah and Kelly can get it together as a group, we have little chance of winning the title or even the Big East.
 
Geno on numerous occasions has said that winning the NC requires excellent guard play. IMHO, as it stands now, none of the guards are performing at the requisite level. Unless CD, Bria, Moriah and Kelly can get it together as a group, we have little chance of winning the title or even the Big East.

That is exactly what I am tying to say. Nothing against Caroline or anyone in particular, but we need more offense from the guard positions. This is killing us when we play top teams. Kelly, Caroline, MJ and Bria the way she shoots now, are not going to scare a lot of final four teams.
 
What does Heather Buck have to do with your post?

So with B Banks out what is your suggested course of action?

I love Heather Buck. I wish I could get to see her play more.
This is in response that " That's true, but no one has given 5 years " .
 
So, are you seriously blaming Doty for these losses?[/quot

Yes, a point guard should be able to score some points. The last three Baylor and Notre Dame games Caroline scored zero points.
 
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