Cardozo doesn't even start for SC

[Charliebball]

Did you watch the 4th quarter? Amihere and Boston were dominate as SC pulled away. Forget about Cardosa, Amihere is the real deal.

defensively she's tough but from what I've seen so far Amihere has a pretty limited offensive game at the moment....

 

[GCKSFN4L]

I’m a lot less surprised by Cardoso not starting and more surprised that neither Rivers nor Feagin got any time in the game.

Honestly it's not too surprising. Feagin specifically has a lot of experienced and talented forwards ahead of her this early in the season. Dawn values defense and in this matchup that's what she going for, while she's raved about Rivers being a gifted scorer and passer she has made it known that her defense isn't up to par yet, with a team like NC State with gifted 3 point shooters, she wasn't going to let them get comfortable with lackluster defense.

 

[Charliebball]

Finally watched the game--not the prettiest of battles but a very solid win nonetheless by SC. The players who most stood out to me are Amihere and Cooke. Amihere looks like she's starting to put it together which is scary for opposing teams considering how quick she is for a 6-3 girl with decent handles. Defensively she is stellar and finished well around the basket last night.

Cooke played with a lot more discipline and control than I'm used to seeing from her. She took a number of tough shots but knocked down most of them and appears to be SC's go to player once again. If she stays grounded and isn't too trigger happy, SC is going to be lethal.

The Boston/Cunane matchup was a big bust, but based on last year's performance I don't think that's a big surprise. Boston is fantastic defensively and very capable offensively, but I don't see her ever becoming a dominant scoring player like A'ja Wilson was for them. Dawn appears to like Boston operating out of the high post, which to her credit I thought she did a fine job there and found Littleton for several open looks, but IMO Boston is far more effective just battling inside and muscling through players for baskets. Boston is maybe the best center to come along since Griner so they need to utilize her more. Cunane just did not look very good last night. I think she scored all of her points going up against Cardoso, I don't believe she scored a point being defended by Boston. Boston looks like she is in better shape than a year ago.

The oversupply of talent is going to be a storyline to watch for SC. I'll be surprised if Dawn can hold on to everyone form the 2021 class like she's been able to from her 2019 class. Limited minutes from Johnson (who Henderson got visibly frustrated with at the end of Q1), limited minutes from Beal and no appearance from Feagin and Rivers. Haven't read the thread but the no show by Rivers was very surprising to me...I thought she'd be a staple as a rotation player. I'm not sure what Cardoso's role is going to be this year for SC. She's a talented kid and moves well at 6-7, but defensively Amihere appears to be better and I'll be surprised if she gets more than 15-18 minutes a night. As someone else noted, I'm surprised she chose SC over the likes of LSU or Texas.

For NC State, they just looked bad IMO. Most of that was SC's stifling defense but a lot of their buckets came on bailout plays from Brown Turner or Perez. Neither Robinson nor Hayes impressed in their debuts. SC is a hard matchup for any team this year but I didn't think NC State competed well.

Boston has gotten herself in shape and looks much quicker this season........Defensively she's really tough but I think the strategy to go right at her on the offensive end to get her into foul trouble makes sense.......also it still looks like you can get in her head a bit on the court as she's a very emotional player

 

[visitingcock]

I’m a lot less surprised by Cardoso not starting and more surprised that neither Rivers nor Feagin got any time in the game.

I don't think any Gamecock fan is surprised that Cardosa didn't start. Simply put, we have five returning starters from a team that was one tip in away from the championship.

I think we will rarely see the "twin towers" of Boston and Cardosa on the court at the same time. I don't think we will ever see them start together.

 

[CallMeBruce]

You sure have a lot to say. Do you realize you’re speaking about the two undisputed best post players in the country?

It’s one thing to be a fan of a team, it’s quite another to disparage the opponent without regard to their games. I’m an SC fan — and I still posted on here that Paige was disrespected when the ESPN panel didn’t pick her to repeat as NPOY.

Hope Edwards has developed a mid-range jump shot since you are convinced she is surpassing Boston and Cunane at the speed of light.

Imagine being an SC fan and posting on a UConn board. You people are so weird.

 

[Bigboote]

You sure have a lot to say. Do you realize you’re speaking about the two undisputed best post players in the country?

Yes, and each was playing AGAINST one of the best post players in the country. Boston is an elite defender, and Cunane is strong and has good footwork on defense. These kids are both sore and black-and-blue today from all the banging.

 

[UConnCat]

Imagine being an SC fan and posting on a UConn board. You people are so weird.

This forum appears to be the home board for SC women's basketball fans.

 

[Purchase1]

Honestly it's not too surprising. Feagin specifically has a lot of experienced and talented forwards ahead of her this early in the season. Dawn values defense and in this matchup that's what she going for, while she's raved about Rivers being a gifted scorer and passer she has made it known that her defense isn't up to par yet, with a team like NC State with gifted 3 point shooters, she wasn't going to let them get comfortable with lackluster defense.

Ah ok wasn’t aware of the defensive issues they were having. Surprising to me given Rivers reputation coming out of high school was that she was a superb defender. Good on Dawn to send a message right away.

 

[SCGamecock]

I… I’m speechless.

Imagine being an SC fan and posting on a UConn board. You people are so weird.

..But isn’t this the board for general basketball conversations? A board created by moderators that I presume are fans of UConn specifically for us to talk about things not related to UConn women’s basketball.

Isn’t this a thread about South Carolina? But we’re the weird ones?

Sure.

 

[SCGamecock]

Ah ok wasn’t aware of the defensive issues they were having. Surprising to me given Rivers reputation coming out of high school was that she was a superb defender. Good on Dawn to send a message right away.

Superb in high school =/= superb for Dawn Staley lol..

 

[GoChips20]

Imagine being an SC fan and posting on a UConn board. You people are so weird.

This is the general WBB forum, Bruce.

I took issue with characterizing the posts in last night’s game as “giant sea lions,” hence my comment about disparagement without regard to game.

You should’ve sat this one out.

 

[visitingcock]

I… I’m speechless.

..But isn’t this the board for general basketball conversations? A board created by moderators that I presume are fans of UConn specifically for us to talk about things not related to UConn women’s basketball.

Isn’t this a thread about South Carolina? But we’re the weird ones?

Sure.

Well, we are weird. I say it proudly as a fan who attended every football game in 1999.

 

[Waquoit]

This forum appears to be the home board for SC women's basketball fans.

That's a feature, not a bug.

 

[CocoHusky]

Last year as a freshman, I thought Aaliyah did about as good a job on Boston as anyone for UConn. On both of Boston’s missed shots at the end of regulation Aaliyah was bodied up against Boston with a hand in her face, never letting Boston elevate. Without Aaliyah’s tough defense, UConn doesn’t get to OT and “the bounce” never happens.

It should also be noted that Liv can also defend Boston pretty well- I know, sounds strange especially coming from me but it is true. Liv actually did a very nice job defending Boston in SC the first matchup when UCONN was in a man to man defense.

 

[Waquoit]

It should also be noted that Liv can also defend Boston pretty well- I know, sounds strange especially coming from me but it is true. Liv actually did a very nice job defending Boston in SC the first matchup when UCONN was in a man to man defense.

And ironically, the team did a lousy job defending Cardoso. She was open all game but her team didn't get her the ball. And it was more them than the perimeter D.

 

[GCKSFN4L]

Ah ok wasn’t aware of the defensive issues they were having. Surprising to me given Rivers reputation coming out of high school was that she was a superb defender. Good on Dawn to send a message right away.

She mentioned this in presser a couple of weeks ago. It wasn't like in a negative way, but she did state she's picking it up fairly well but just not to her standards. I'm sure we'll see a lot of Rivers once she does. She had the polar opposite opinion on Hall, in that she's a great defender but her offensive skills/awareness could be better. But all these Gamecock teams has always defensively focused first.

 

[eebmg]

defensively she's tough but from what I've seen so far Amihere has a pretty limited offensive game at the moment....

But what she does, she does very well. She is a dynamite slasher to the basket and she plays with a mean streak. Something Cardosa will need to develop. I saw her in the Syracuse game last year against UConn when they were getting their orange squeezed out of them and she just kept smiling. Uurgh.

 

[Charliebball]

But what she does, she does very well. She is a dynamite slasher to the basket and she plays with a mean streak. Something Cardosa will need to develop. I saw her in the Syracuse game last year against UConn when they were getting their orange squeezed out of them and she just kept smiling. Uurgh.

Amihere is tough but often lacks touch even around the basket...........Cardoso is a mystery to me, she can look great one minute and then disappear.........she would have driven Geno crazy........

 

[bballnut90]

It should also be noted that Liv can also defend Boston pretty well- I know, sounds strange especially coming from me but it is true. Liv actually did a very nice job defending Boston in SC the first matchup when UCONN was in a man to man defense.

Liv is an excellent defender, she just can't produce offensively against opponents with size. She's not as broad as Boston but has great length, blocks shots well and plays solid defense. Boston is a tough matchup for Liv when she's knocking down face up jumpers but in the paint Liv can defend Boston better than most posts in the country.

 

[oldude]

And ironically, the team did a lousy job defending Cardoso. She was open all game but her team didn't get her the ball. And it was more them than the perimeter D.

Not correct. Syracuse’s game plan against UConn was to jam the ball inside to Cardoso every time down the court. She scored 4 of their first 5 baskets. After that UConn made adjustments, specifically with Liv bodying up Cardoso further from the basket. For awhile Syracuse continued to try to jam the ball in to Cardoso, unsuccessfully, resulting in several turnovers. For the rest of the game Cardoso had 2 points. Liv outplayed Cardoso in that game and it really wasn’t close.

 

[Jmsdawg]

Imagine being an SC fan and posting on a UConn board. You people are so weird.

That is what makes the BY unique. By is more than a UConn board, the By is the closest thing WBB has to a National Message Board with highly skilled and dedicated moderators. I say it again. I LOVE THE BY!

 

[SimpleDawg]

This forum appears to be the home board for SC women's basketball fans.

rofl

It used to be equal here (maybe slightly leaning SC fans) between SC and MSU fans, but since Vic left some of our guys have jumped ship while Dawn's army kept multiplying.

 

[Alydar]

Well, it is CT fans who constantly bring up last season's game since.....last season's game. Oldude was waxing nostalgically about Edwards' effective defense against Boston at the end of regulation, just a few posts above. I guess HE doesn't think that it's time to let it go.....

I let Old Dude speak for himself. I'm sure if we examined the video of the end of the game we could find players displacing opponent's position somewhere under the glass. Or a hand on a shoulder? Uncalled fouls happen many times in almost all games. They suck when your team loses.

I know you feel differently but what I saw was your guard missing what should have been the final shot and then your center gets a couple of tip in attempts. All were missed and now you want to be bailed out with a whistle? You had many chances. You missed. Don't mean to sound harsh but there it is.

Hopefully everyone stays fairly healthy. Besides the possibility of 2 games between us I am looking forward to the Trees' trip east to play Tenn and then you guys. Lots of great games to watch before Christmas for a change. Even Brenda scheduled a few couple.

 

[visitingcock]

I let Old Dude speak for himself. I'm sure if we examined the video of the end of the game we could find players displacing opponent's position somewhere under the glass. Or a hand on a shoulder? Uncalled fouls happen many times in almost all games. They suck when your team loses.

I know you feel differently but what I saw was your guard missing what should have been the final shot and then your center gets a couple of tip in attempts. All were missed and now you want to be bailed out with a whistle? You had many chances. You missed. Don't mean to sound harsh but there it is.

Hopefully everyone stays fairly healthy. Besides the possibility of 2 games between us I am looking forward to the Trees' trip east to play Tenn and then you guys. Lots of great games to watch before Christmas for a change. Even Brenda scheduled a few couple.

Replace the 2 with a 3 while speaking of "possibilities."

 

[baggerbob]

Yes-She is. I will stand by this. The absolute last place she should've transferred to, is South Carolina. Her and Boston play the exact same position and they're similar enough that they can't be on the floor together for long stretches.

If I'm Cardoso, I would've either gone to Vic at Texas or Kim at LSU.

Should have joined Kim, who is better with bigs then anyone else.

 

[Alydar]

The stats still don't tell the lie. Boston out-performed BOTH Edwards AND ONO in last year's game, COMBINED. All by herself. I would be perfectly fine with a repeat performance from her this season....

So will I if the rest of the team also plays like they did last year. Especially your starting guards.

 

[Alydar]

Replace the 2 with a 3 while speaking of "possibilities."

Not me. But you can jinx your own team if you like.

 

[Gamecockfan77]

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Finally watched the game--not the prettiest of battles but a very solid win nonetheless by SC. The players who most stood out to me are Amihere and Cooke. Amihere looks like she's starting to put it together which is scary for opposing teams considering how quick she is for a 6-3 girl with decent handles. Defensively she is stellar and finished well around the basket last night.

Cooke played with a lot more discipline and control than I'm used to seeing from her. She took a number of tough shots but knocked down most of them and appears to be SC's go to player once again. If she stays grounded and isn't too trigger happy, SC is going to be lethal.

The Boston/Cunane matchup was a big bust, but based on last year's performance I don't think that's a big surprise. Boston is fantastic defensively and very capable offensively, but I don't see her ever becoming a dominant scoring player like A'ja Wilson was for them. Dawn appears to like Boston operating out of the high post, which to her credit I thought she did a fine job there and found Littleton for several open looks, but IMO Boston is far more effective just battling inside and muscling through players for baskets. Boston is maybe the best center to come along since Griner so they need to utilize her more. Cunane just did not look very good last night. I think she scored all of her points going up against Cardoso, I don't believe she scored a point being defended by Boston. Boston looks like she is in better shape than a year ago.

The oversupply of talent is going to be a storyline to watch for SC. I'll be surprised if Dawn can hold on to everyone form the 2021 class like she's been able to from her 2019 class. Limited minutes from Johnson (who Henderson got visibly frustrated with at the end of Q1), limited minutes from Beal and no appearance from Feagin and Rivers. Haven't read the thread but the no show by Rivers was very surprising to me...I thought she'd be a staple as a rotation player. I'm not sure what Cardoso's role is going to be this year for SC. She's a talented kid and moves well at 6-7, but defensively Amihere appears to be better and I'll be surprised if she gets more than 15-18 minutes a night. As someone else noted, I'm surprised she chose SC over the likes of LSU or Texas.

For NC State, they just looked bad IMO. Most of that was SC's stifling defense but a lot of their buckets came on bailout plays from Brown Turner or Perez. Neither Robinson nor Hayes impressed in their debuts. SC is a hard matchup for any team this year but I didn't think NC State competed well.

just a guess based on last season and past deep Staley teams: I think most schools are going to look pretty bad against our defense.

It's just one data point in 2021, but UConn has only managed 54 in regulation the last two seasons.

I wouldn't hold it too much against NC State. Particularly banged up adjusting to newcomers NC State.

I imagine Diamond will make some of those step backs going forward. Probably a lot of them. And get fouled or convert those blocks.

 

[Gamecockfan77]

It should also be noted that Liv can also defend Boston pretty well- I know, sounds strange especially coming from me but it is true. Liv actually did a very nice job defending Boston in SC the first matchup when UCONN was in a man to man defense.

ONO is a good defender.

She's just a very average offensive player against comparable size.

 

[ConwayGmck]

Happy to have such a large contingent of passionate SC fans join us here on the BY. But I would ask that if you’re going to reference any of my posts, you don’t create a fictional version of their context or content.

My post on Aaliyah was in response to someone else’s post suggesting that Aaliyah wasn’t anywhere near the player Boston was. In response I simply pointed out that Aaliyah did about “as a good a job” as any UConn player against Boston last year, adding an example.

If responding to someone else’s post constitutes “waxing nostalgically” then everyone on this forum is living in the past.

Congratulations on a nice win last night.

Yes. I just stated that you did. Here was the "example":

On both of Boston’s missed shots at the end of regulation Aaliyah was bodied up against Boston with a hand in her face, never letting Boston elevate.

It was specifically in regards to Edwards' defense at the end of regulation. I responded to that part also specifically. There was NO "fictional version of context or content" added with anything I posted. I didn't put words into your post. I responded to YOUR OWN words.

And thank you. Good luck in your next game....