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Can't figure this team out.

We continue to beat ourselves with TOs. That will be our Achilles heel for the rest of the season. If we take care of the ball, we win.

Tarris and Stewart have to play more confidently and consistently for us to even have a chance to make a deep tournament run. We need them to combine for 20 & 10 every night (unless Liam wants to regularly turn into Larry Bird again).

Sorry, I've given up on Mahaney and Ross is too one-dimensional to have any tangible impact at this point in the season.

Boneheaded fouls by our bigs are our 2nd Achilles heel. I'm afraid if this hasn't been corrected by this point in the season, it never will be.

We've been spoiled the last two seasons. We're lucky if we get to the Sweet 16 IMO.
 
It’s relatively easy to beat this team if you have athletes and can press.

It’s puzzling that game after game the following happens:

-Fail to inbound against the press
-Way late in shot clock scramble for a poor shot

For all the plaudits the staff got for drawing up inbounds plays under an opponents hoop on the offensive end, they should get hammered foe the inability to inbound under our hoop after an opponents made hoop the opponent sets up a press.

Any season is a process, but boy this is a horrible loss.
 
We’re just not that good. Borderline top 25. Our best win of the season is at a borderline top 20 Marquette. At this point not hoping for anything more than a 7 seed and probable loss to a 2 seed in the second round.
 
InKembaITrust said:
We continue to beat ourselves with TOs. That will be our Achilles heel for the rest of the season. If we take care of the ball, we win.

Tarris and Stewart have to play more confidently and consistently for us to even have a chance to make a deep tournament run. We need them to combine for 20 & 10 every night (unless Liam wants to regularly turn into Larry Bird again).

Sorry, I've given up on Mahaney and Ross is too one-dimensional to have any tangible impact at this point in the season.

Boneheaded fouls by our bigs are our 2nd Achilles heel. I'm afraid if this hasn't been corrected by this point in the season, it never will be.

We've been spoiled the last two seasons. We're lucky if we get to the Sweet 16 IMO.
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It'd take a ridiculously lucky draw for this team to get past the first weekend.
 
bendm said:
We’re just not that good. Borderline top 25. Our best win of the season is at a borderline top 20 Marquette. At this point not hoping for anything more than a 7 seed and probable loss to a 2 seed in the second round.
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I have more confidence in them against a 2 seed than a 10 seed. For whatever reason, this team horribly plays to their competition. Great when we beat Marquette, Creighton, and Gonzaga, not so much otherwise. I would almost rather be a 10 or 11 seed this year than a 5, 6 or 7.
 
I don’t know if anyone noticed but some of the top ranked teams have lost to cellar dwellers in their conference this year. It’s just not us though we have done it more.
 
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jibsey said:
I don’t know if anyone noticed but some of the top ranked teams have lost to cellar dwellers in their conference this year. It’s just not us though we have done it more.
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Are any of those cellar dwellers worse than Seton Hall?
 
Which is it? Is the coaching staff actually doing a good job because we are in position to make the tournament despite having a bad roster OR is the staff doing a bad job because we have a good roster and not putting it all together.
 
The starting PG has a knee injury, the high ranked freshman PG hasn’t been healthy all season, and the other kid hasn’t adjusted to the game speed, physicality of the Big East. That’s three PG’s.
 
Low basketball IQ coupled with the fact that we just don’t have the individual talent like we did the last two years. I’m not trying to be harsh. I certainly couldn’t do it, but it is what it is.
 
InKembaITrust said:
We've beaten Gonzaga, and Marquette/Creighton at home. IMO, we're not that bad.
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We aren't that bad. At all. We just don't really excel at anything, and have way too many glaring weaknesses that we are easy to coach against.

That being said we have enough talent to beat anyone, but we lack the BBIQ so we can lose to anyone as well.

In years past we had the defense to stabilize/ground us in every game. It was a big part of our identity. What is our identity this year? We just don't have that collective character trait that we are able to fall back on when bad things start to happen in-game.
 
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Gutter King said:
We aren't that bad. At all. We just don't really excel at anything, and have way too many glaring weaknesses that we are easy to coach against.

That being said we have enough talent to beat anyone, but we lack the BBIQ so we can lose to anyone as well.

In years past we had the defense to stabilize/ground us in every game. It was a big part of our identity. What is our identity this year? We just don't have that collective character trait that we are able to fall back on when bad things start to happen in-game.
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Yes, we're a horrible defensive team, but we're typically an excellent offensive team. I still believe we aren't going far in the tournament because defense does ultimately win championships, but our offense and a better whistle in the tournament should carry us a game or 2.

It'll be nice once we get Reibe in the building. He should provide much of what Clingan did and hold down the paint defensively.
 
auror said:
We can't inbounds against a press because we have slow wings and a PG with 1 knee. The game was in hand despite a horrific shooting night.
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Come on man. We can't inbound it because our players are too slow? Watch the Ivies and other midmajors play against top teams. They can execute an inbounds.
 
JMick said:
It's always on the staff, win or lose. They recruit the players. They coach them and call the game. I think the staffs biggest blunder this year was the roster. Too slow. Not athletic. Not strong. Not particularly basketball savvy.
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They need to start Reed, with him down low, they’re a much better team, and at the opening tip it would sort of set the tone for the game.
 
Travelman6 said:
I think it's getting to the point where it's too late to really significantly (consistently) turn things around. Let's see what they do vs Nova, otherwise I think I might check out if that game is a bust.
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Oh no all … Travelman6 “might check out”. As if losing to SH wasn’t bad enough, now we might lose a stalwart like Travelman6.

Good riddance to you and your weaksauce TM6.
 
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It’s a team w a hurt pg, an elite role player who is pressing trying to be someone he is not, a great shooter who does nothing else, two sophomores who never developed, a freshmen class we missed on, a transfer we missed on, a transfer who needs to play more, and a top 10 freshman in the country. That adds up to mediocrity. We really have no bench and depth just at the center spot, and even there both are average.
 
My biggest question at the end is after struggling 5 times to get the ball in why was Karaban the inbounder on every one other than the one he leaked out on? Not that there were many openings to get it in, but he seemed frozen each time.
 
The scary thing is that the Big East is very weak. You could easily see all bids (3?) for BE between 7-11. And before you say St. John's will be higher, they have no signature wins. Heck, Dayton is mid-pack in the A10. Seton Hall's nonconference losses are beyond bad.
 
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Gutter King said:
This team runs it's inbounds like it runs its offense, a half step too slow. We went from having a team of ultra fast processors, to a team that just does't click at the speed of a Cam, Castle, TNew and AJax. Watch Solo cut through the paint with a casual hand up getting zero separation everytime. Now put TNew and Cam fricken Spencer in there and our offense would look dynamic.

Diarra, McNeeley and Karaban make net positive winning plays mostly every game and their desire is evident. Last year we were seven deep in that department. The aggregate of that (-4) loss in high IQ players results in not only losses like this, but all the losses of 4 or less we've accumulated this year. High IQ players make EVERYONE better.

Every poor performance it's a new thing lol. 25 turnovers, can't inbound, missed FT, etc.

Now we are truly on the bubble because this team can't count on any of the easy Ws left on the schedule.
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Nailed it. You see so much more of all the laziness and brain farts when you’re up close.

Our soph class is collectively really slow on the processing. Reed is really rough. If we rely on those 4 next year as our core, get ready for more of the same.
 
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scotty0330 said:
The Mahaney experiment can be officially called a complete disaster. He was supposed to be a key add and he brings zero to team.
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Yeah I thought he would be at least a shooter. I know playing out of position has impacted his ability to create too,
 
3rdbass said:
Yeah I thought he would be at least a shooter. I know playing out of position has impacted his ability to create too,
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He’s our Timberlake. When you can’t find value in a guy in mid Feb against a really bad team (4 minutes), it’s a clear admission he’s a bust.

The PG situation this year is a grade F.
 
blkknight1 said:
Team has low Basketball IQ.

Players continue to make the same mistakes they were making in November.

Players have yet to figure out how to do the simple things.
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This is a good point. I can’t point to any player that seems significantly better over the course of the season. Fresh blood is needed and hard conversations for some need to be had at years end
 
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