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Giffey played 24 minutes in the national chmpionship game. As a freshman.Put some respect on Niels Giffey's name
Giffey played 24 minutes in the national chmpionship game. As a freshman.Put some respect on Niels Giffey's name
Yep, robbery. Whitmore is definitely an athlete and NBA player but he missed a ton of games as did Bouknight-and it cost him! Karaban stepped in day one and was a good player and became a VERY good player and will be a great player.![]()
Villanova freshman Cam Whitmore named top Big East freshman
Cam Whitmore was named the top freshman in the Big East Wednesday, hours before the conference tournament was set to begin.www.inquirer.com
Robbery in my opinion
The overall production from Whitmore is higher because he was relied on a little more to take shots and get defensive rebounds, but the efficiency of Karaban was better due to better shooting percentages, more assists, and less turnovers. Hence Whitmore's PER was higher, but Karaban's efficency rating was much higher on offense and equal to Whitmore on defense.I'd rather have Karaban than Whitmore this year and clearly Karaban will be super valuable to us after this season, but I think it's fair.
Karaban: 9.7p, 4.4r, 1.9a, 1.7 3PM, 56.5 2p%, 39.4 3p%, 82.5 ft%, 0.6s, 0.6b
Whitmore: 12.6p, 5.1r, 0.7a, 1.4 3PM, 55.7 2p%, 34.7 3p%, 73.3 ft%, 1.4s, 0.4b
I think part of it is Villanova was 2-5 without Whitmore.
Not sure, without looking, but how many games did Villanova lose with him in the line-up? 9 or 10? We'll get a motivated Karaban in NYC.I'd rather have Karaban than Whitmore this year and clearly Karaban will be super valuable to us after this season, but I think it's fair.
Karaban: 9.7p, 4.4r, 1.9a, 1.7 3PM, 56.5 2p%, 39.4 3p%, 82.5 ft%, 0.6s, 0.6b
Whitmore: 12.6p, 5.1r, 0.7a, 1.4 3PM, 55.7 2p%, 34.7 3p%, 73.3 ft%, 1.4s, 0.4b
I think part of it is Villanova was 2-5 without Whitmore.
Remember when Freeman used a biggest award snub to motivate him for the BET? That should be Alex’s model.More bulletin board material for AK.
Still don't understand this logic. Are you saying that whoever voted for Clingan was only necessarily voting between Clingan and Karaban? Or vice versa? Doesn't make any sense. Or that there was default voting for Whitmore because voters couldn't make up their minds between Clingan and Karaban? That doesn't make any sense either.

correct. I thought Karaban should've gotten BEFOTY, but I am hoping he gets on fire after being snubbed. Going back to 2011, I am glad Kemba didn't get his BEPOY award, too. I am not sure he would publicly admit this, but I think he went scorched earth on the competition after that and it resulted in UConn winning 11 straight single elimination games.Remember when Freeman used a biggest award snub to motivate him for the BET? That should be Alex’s model.
He wanted it.
Karaban is one of the leading candidates for the Big East freshman of the year along with Villanova’s Cam Whitmore. Both players were unanimous selections to the all-freshman team.
In Saturday’s 71-59 win at Villanova in the regular season finale, Karaban stated his case by finishing with 16 points, six rebounds, four assists and three blocks.
It’s been his goal since the beginning of the season to win the league’s stop freshman honor. Whitmore was the preseason pick.
“I knew he was the talk of the town for freshmen going into the season, so I wanted to prove myself this season that I could compete with him,” Karaban said Saturday. “He’s such a talented player. That was an individual goal that I told the coaches before the season that I wanted to do.
“... It was definitely something in the back of my mind during the season and I just wanted to finish out the season strong.”
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Big East honors four Huskies, including first-team picks Hawkins and Sanogo
UConn's inside-outside duo of sophomore Jordan Hawkins and junior Adama Sanogo were rewarded for their strong play this season, earning All-Big East first team honors.www.theday.com
Dont forget Rebounds and assists tooSo this award has essentially been reduced to a points per game accolade... total BS.
Rebounds edge to Cam assists 5.1-4.4 and taking care of the ball easily Karaban. They ran their offense through him quite often and despite that he has an edge onassists and less turnovers as well.Dont forget Rebounds and assists too
Didn't look like the better player or have better numbers either time they played each other.Of course, the better player with better numbers won.
I doubt anybody voted Clingan 2. People keep mentioning this but there was no split vote because only two guys were even in the conversation. They picked the guy who looks like an NBA player instead of the guy who looks like a superb college player. I'd vote Karaban, but they clearly gave Whitmore credit for time off as if he played.Karaban and Whitmore were unanimous selections to the freshman team.
You only need one or two Whitmore voters voters to vote Whitmore one, Clingan two and Karaban three as compared to Karaban voters going Karaban, Whitmore and Clingan.
It's obvious it was a two person race overall so it came down to a small number of voters who didn't put Karaban second.
The overall production from Whitmore is higher because he was relied on a little more to take shots and get defensive rebounds, but the efficiency of Karaban was better due to better shooting percentages, more assists, and less turnovers. Hence Whitmore's PER was higher, but Karaban's efficency rating was much higher on offense and equal to Whitmore on defense.
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Alex Karaban College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com
Alex Karaban - Stats, Game Logs, Splits, and much morewww.sports-reference.com
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Cam Whitmore College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com
Cam Whitmore - Stats, Game Logs, Splits, and much morewww.sports-reference.com
Yeah baby, yeahWhitmore is a very nice player. See ya, and take that absolute gift of a trophy you got to the NBA with you. We will just be content to bring back the real Freshman of the year to terrorize all you idiot coaches next year.
it’s not all about scoring average. My guess is Karaban played more games and was not the first option as was the hyped Whitmore ?Oh I hope it affects his game. In a positive way.Of course he wanted it. I just mean he doesn't strike me as the type to be bothered by it and let it affect his game.