BYU Post Game Thread

[HW611]

Didn’t Solo and Hawkins make huge jumps before their Junior year?

And by “when people come around” you mean agree with you that Ross should start?

Literally EVERYONE that covers this team wether on tv, socials like youtube agree Mullins gets the start.

Ross starting has the same likelihood of Koroma starting over AK vs AZ. It is not happening.

Let me clear this up before this is the next thing that gets purposefully misconstrued.

Ross deserves the opportunity to start while Mullins is out. He earned it.

When Mullins gets back he will come off the bench at first anyways like every other player that's ever came back from an injury under Hurley.

During that time there should be a true competition for the position. If Ross continues to play at a high level then there should be no reason to move him back to the bench. If Mullins comes out and he's everything and more and outplays Ross, then he should move to the starting lineup as planned.

But I don't agree with the idea of limiting Ross because of a preconceived belief. Let it play out naturally on the court and let the chips fall where they may. Meritocracy.

 

[Rocktheworld]

You’re a jerk

The jerk in this thread is the one flippantly dismissing this team as “decent” and whining about not coasting to victory over a top 10 team with a top 3 draft pick, without one of our best players. And then turning around and not being able to keep track of the dumb crap they say.

 

[RuffRuff]

Let me clear this up before this is the next thing that gets purposefully misconstrued.

Ross deserves the opportunity to start while Mullins is out. He earned it.

When Mullins gets back he will come off the bench at first anyways like every other player that's ever came back from an injury under Hurley.

During that time there should be a true competition for the position. If Ross continues to play at a high level then there should be no reason to move him back to the bench. If Mullins comes out and he's everything and more and outplays Ross, then he should move to the starting lineup as planned.

But I don't agree with the idea of limiting Ross because of a preconceived belief. Let it play out naturally on the court and let the chips fall where they may. Meritocracy.

Hard to argue with letting the best player win.

 

[HW611]

Why are you pretending you were the only one who thoughts Hawkins and Solo would start, and equating that to Ross? Hawk and Solo were going to be our starting 2s as sophomores. No one didn’t think that.

You talk about mental gymnastics multiple times but are easily the one who extrapolates 50 moves out and acts like others are haters.

Ross has a solid game off the bench with still warts in his game and you’re now off to the races man.

I don't want to continue rehashing these things on the board. I tried Dming you but it's not open.

So you're right 100% of the time?

More like 95% 😉

 

[Lafayette]

Let me clear this up before this is the next thing that gets purposefully misconstrued.

Ross deserves the opportunity to start while Mullins is out. He earned it.

When Mullins gets back he will come off the bench at first anyways like every other player that's ever came back from an injury under Hurley.

During that time there should be a true competition for the position. If Ross continues to play at a high level then there should be no reason to move him back to the bench. If Mullins comes out and he's everything and more and outplays Ross, then he should move to the starting lineup as planned.

But I don't agree with the idea of limiting Ross because of a preconceived belief. Let it play out naturally on the court and let the chips fall where they may. Meritocracy.

That’s not how it works..Ross did not earn a start over Stewart. Stewart managed to stay in the game and was the better defender overall (How do you put Ross’s 12 minutes ahead of the Stewart?)

Also one game does not make for a change of starters especially when your dude did 12 minutes and fouled out. See Tarris having really better games than Samson for most of last year and didn’t unseat him.

Your train is still at the station.

 

[HW611]

That’s not how it works..Ross did not earn a start over Stewart. Stewart managed to stay in the game and was the better defender overall (How do you put Ross’s 12 minutes ahead of the Stewart?)

Also one game does not make for a change of starters especially when your dude did 12 minutes and fouled out. See Tarris having really better games than Samson for most of last year and didn’t unseat him.

Your train is still at the station.

If you think it's just one game and agree that Tarris shouldn’t have started last season your train is off the tracks.

 

[Stew Crew]

Agreed on the finish... Don't think Rashad coming off the bench was the problem, though. Despite stupid talent, that team just never worked for whatever reason. I'm still somewhat surprised we got by Albany. Took Marcus going off to avoid that ridiculousness.

It was the most entitled team UConn has ever had, at least since the Jim Calhoun era. Half the team was looking towards the NBA halfway through the season. It seemed like many of them were more worried about not getting hurt than winning.

 

[mauconnfan]

There’s just opinion here and I get all the thoughts but there’s more to basketball at this level than “that guy was really good tonight so he deserves to start or get a shot”…. It’s chemistry, strategy from the staff. My guess is he’s played a little better than Stew but not enough and they like his offense now off the bench so it will stay there. He had 10 pts and 1 assist and didn’t get a rebound while fouling out (more than likely sending people to the foul line) in 12 minutes. That’s not someone stating “I deserve to start on this team” sorry. It’s an “I’m getting better and need to fix some things” kinda game.

You are obsessed with being right, not about Ross in particular. These 2 are battling to see who gets more time off the bench when Mullins games back and they will continue to do that, it’s good for the team we need them both to improve.

In the meantime this is not our biggest concern. Our biggest concern is to get last years version of Solo Ball back soon and not even worry about what we had hoped to be improvement. Need him to make wide open looks, pass the ball better and defend like he did at least that last 10 games of last year. So far he’s been disappointment although driving to the hoop has improved. Need more!

 

[navery12]

People said the same things about Hawkins and Solo previously. When people come around to Ross, I won't have to talk about him as much anymore like I don't have to talk about Solo much.

This is why nobody likes or respects you. You were 100% early on the Ross train, ignoring the absurd levels of hyperbole you did and continue to use. But when you try to take victory laps on Solo Ball or Jordan Hawkins, guys that 99% of people on this board loved and it was obvious from the day they stepped onto campus were stars you lose all your credibility

 

[navery12]

But I don't agree with the idea of limiting Ross because of a preconceived belief. Let it play out naturally on the court and let the chips fall where they may. Meritocracy.

The piece you're missing is that it did play out on the court all summer, and Mullins won the job. That's why he's going to start when he's healthy. Did Eric Reibe continue to start when Tarris Reed Jr was healthy again?

 

[HW611]

This is why nobody likes or respects you. You were 100% early on the Ross train, ignoring the absurd levels of hyperbole you did and continue to use. But when you try to take victory laps on Solo Ball or Jordan Hawkins, guys that 99% of people on this board loved and it was obvious from the day they stepped onto campus were stars you lose all your credibility

Not sure what was hyperbole here.

The piece you're missing is that it did play out on the court all summer, and Mullins won the job. That's why he's going to start when he's healthy. Did Eric Reibe continue to start when Tarris Reed Jr was healthy again?

You're missing the obvious part that Reibe didn't play well and Tarris was a returning player with previous experience.

I'm not sure why you and others are so against wanting to see how things play out.

 

[superjohn]

This is why nobody likes or respects you. You were 100% early on the Ross train, ignoring the absurd levels of hyperbole you did and continue to use. But when you try to take victory laps on Solo Ball or Jordan Hawkins, guys that 99% of people on this board loved and it was obvious from the day they stepped onto campus were stars you lose all your credibility

Solo Ball should be our point guard because he had the most assists in Europe when UConn was beating teams by 100.

 

[superjohn]

There’s just opinion here and I get all the thoughts but there’s more to basketball at this level than “that guy was really good tonight so he deserves to start or get a shot”…. It’s chemistry, strategy from the staff. My guess is he’s played a little better than Stew but not enough and they like his offense now off the bench so it will stay there. He had 10 pts and 1 assist and didn’t get a rebound while fouling out (more than likely sending people to the foul line) in 12 minutes. That’s not someone stating “I deserve to start on this team” sorry. It’s an “I’m getting better and need to fix some things” kinda game.

You are obsessed with being right, not about Ross in particular. These 2 are battling to see who gets more time off the bench when Mullins games back and they will continue to do that, it’s good for the team we need them both to improve.

In the meantime this is not our biggest concern. Our biggest concern is to get last years version of Solo Ball back soon and not even worry about what we had hoped to be improvement. Need him to make wide open looks, pass the ball better and defend like he did at least that last 10 games of last year. So far he’s been disappointment although driving to the hoop has improved. Need more!

I have zero concern with Solo, his overall game has improved. We all already know he shoots the hell out of it.

 

[navery12]

Not sure what was hyperbole here.


You're missing the obvious part that Reibe didn't play well and Tarris was a returning player with previous experience.

I'm not sure why you and others are so against wanting to see how things play out.

The hyperbole was the repeated NBA talk and Ross starting over Mullins all offseason.

I'm not against seeing how things play out, my point is we already saw how things played out all summer and preseason, and Mullins won the job. He is going to be the starter here and pretending otherwise is silly.

My only point is that I don't see value in starting Ross for 1-2 games before switching to Mullins. I think it's an unnecessary risk and change. You don't, which is fine. But wanting to bring Mullins off the bench all year like you have repeatedly suggested since April is insane

 

[REB1094]

Silas/Solo/Stewart/Karaban/Reed has led us to 4-0 with a big win against a top 10 team

Even if Ross has played better the last two games, doubt Hurley changes what’s worked so far. My bet is that Stewart continues to start until Mullins is ready, then Ross comes in quickly if needed. Especially with us needing a Koa Peat defender

 

[Storrs South]

Holy crap, they cut off the last 10 minutes in South Carolina to put on their women’s game. Thanks for the agitation!

Ah so that's why they didn't post the last 10 minutes online otherwise I would have posted the replay. Did they bump the game over to FS1?

 

[HW611]

Not sure what was hyperbole here.


You're missing the obvious part that Reibe didn't play well and Tarris was a returning player with previous experience.

I'm not sure why you and others are so against wanting to see how things play out.

Last post in this thread for me.

Hilarious how you can show clear proof like this of what statement you made, can link a thread of 90% of people saying otherwise and hammering said statement, then get called a troll and people still say you were wrong.

It's actually entertaining at this point. Looking forward to Ross continuing to breakout and the mental gymnastics that'll come with it.

 

[willie99]

Last post in this thread for me.

Hilarious how you can show clear proof like this of what statement you made, can link a thread of 90% of people saying otherwise and hammering said statement, then get called a troll and people still say you were wrong.

It's actually entertaining at this point. Looking forward to Ross continuing to breakout and the mental gymnastics that'll come with it.

What I find hilarious is how some dude posting on a UConn basketball "fan" site actually thinks he knows more about the rotation than our sensational coaching staff

I'm like, you can't be serious. But I'm not going to try and convince you about anything. I just smile and walk away

Whatever you're doing for a living, I can assure you you're vastly underpaid. You obviously missed your calling

All the best

 

[Hunt for 7]

Last post in this thread for me.

Hilarious how you can show clear proof like this of what statement you made, can link a thread of 90% of people saying otherwise and hammering said statement, then get called a troll and people still say you were wrong.

It's actually entertaining at this point. Looking forward to Ross continuing to breakout and the mental gymnastics that'll come with it.

Cmon it is just starting to get fun don’t stop now. You just got it going and it is more than 24 hours from the Arizona game.

 

[RuffRuff]

This is why nobody likes or respects you. You were 100% early on the Ross train, ignoring the absurd levels of hyperbole you did and continue to use. But when you try to take victory laps on Solo Ball or Jordan Hawkins, guys that 99% of people on this board loved and it was obvious from the day they stepped onto campus were stars you lose all your credibility

Bottom line here is the POV is more latching onto an idea, beating the drum till it irritates people, then marching a victory parade if a sign of confirmation presents. It really is so much about being right, rather than good healthy dialogue.

 

[Lafayette]

If you think it's just one game and agree that Tarris shouldn’t have started last season your train is off the tracks.

Are we still in 5th grade here? That reply ranks up with “I know you are but what Am I?”

 

[Mr. French]

Bottom line here is the POV is more latching onto an idea, beating the drum till it irritates people, then marching a victory parade if a sign of confirmation presents. It really is so much about being right, rather than good healthy dialogue.

And then acting like anyone calling out his jumping 50 conclusions is a hater and bowing out as the victim.

It’s not his takes, it’s his presentation that is bothersome.

 

[RuffRuff]

What I find hilarious is how some dude posting on a UConn basketball "fan" site actually thinks he knows more about the rotation than our sensational coaching staff

I'm like, you can't be serious. But I'm not going to try and convince you about anything. I just smile and walk away

Whatever you're doing for a living, I can assure you you're vastly underpaid. You obviously missed your calling

All the best

Well this is it - I think many of us like to ask questions around why the staff makes certain decisions, but I for one will always defer to them knowing a LOT more than I do, being in practices, understanding chemistry intimately. We can sit on a message board and play arm chair QB for fun all day, but no one here has even an a small % of the knowledge Hurley does. The guy has a HOF coach as a dad, has an all time collegiate brother, has played/coached his entire life (successfully). So if anyone thinks they know more than he does, there is some sort of weird God complex going on.

 

[HailUConn]

Do we have a young Sheldon in the yard?

 

[Inyatkin]

I think many of us like to ask questions around why the staff makes certain decisions, but I for one will always defer to them knowing a LOT more than I do, being in practices, understanding chemistry intimately.

Is that right

 

[RuffRuff]

Is that right

Yes sir - I’ll question stuff but never think I know enough to be “right” about it.

 

[HW611]

Just let this be my header

 

[Inyatkin]

Yes sir - I’ll question stuff but never think I know enough to be “right” about it.

I have no desire to relitigate the Samson Johnson starter saga, but that did happen

 

[RuffRuff]

I have no desire to relitigate the Samson Johnson starter saga, but that did happen

Ah, SJ - well, that was one of my stronger questionings.

The only blind spot I see with Hurley is some emotional tagging to some players. I'm not sure I call myself "right" in those situations, just wonder the rationale. If he told me, because I feel connected or "trust" him, who am I to question the HC? Like I'd love Hurley to tell me the why in a case like that.

 

[Inyatkin]

Ah, SJ - well, that was one of my stronger questionings.

The only blind spot I see with Hurley is some emotional tagging to some players. I'm not sure I call myself "right" in those situations, just wonder the rationale. If he told me, because I feel connected or "trust" him, who am I to question the HC? Like I'd love Hurley to tell me the why in a case like that.

Like I said, this has been discussed enough, but the head coach personally assuring specific fans that he knows what he's doing doesn't seem a likely outcome to me.