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06029 said:
Post lunch talk with a person (25+ year friend and client) who would have better knowledge than most bloggers/twitterers, Uconn will know if it is in the final expansion group of 2 or 4 by the end of September. Timeline was outlined as final 2/4 notified before the end of the month with the Big 12 making a final decision by October 15.

His belief was that it is a 50/50 proposition at best with the Big12 on expansion and less than that for Uconn being in the final cut because of the TX perspective and deference to them (my word, not his). If TX says no, it is hard to get enough votes to over ride.

He also voiced concerns that the conditions offered to any expansion school by the Big12 would put the school at a competitive/monetary disadvantage while allowing the existing B12 schools to get more money and retain the ability to walk away in less than 10 years.

The most interesting comment, however, was at least one other P5 representative has been in close contact with Uconn. He was very circumspect about which conference(s) but felt that all of the work being done by Uconn/Big 12, including the media analysis, is being eaten up by another potential home for Uconn.

He also mocked my golf game, ever expanding gut and growing forehead.

Take this as just another small piece of info that I thought worthwhile enough to post.
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You had me until the "other" P5 conferences interest in UConn.
 
buddy said:
I agree that the Big 12 thing is a long shot, given what UConn is dealing with there, but the rest is just a bunch of baloney. The ACC despises UConn and the B1G has no need for UConn. The PAC 12 and the SEC are not even a consideration. There is nothing left but Big 12 right now. No other conference needs to expand. I cannot believe that you sucked 23 people into giving your posts "likes".
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That's me. Trolling for likes. You caught me. I gave you two likes to make up for it.

I took the other conferences as meaning the B1G or the ACC. I don't see the ACC as despising Uconn. They seem to have more mature leadership at most schools than that.
 
06029 said:
That's me. Trolling for likes. You caught me. I gave you two likes to make up for it.

I took the other conferences as meaning the B1G or the ACC. I don't see the ACC as despising Uconn. They seem to have more mature leadership at most schools than that.
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Tell that to FSU, BC, Clemson and Cuse.
 
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sportsart said:
So a like doesn't mean "I sure hope it's true"?
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Don't get me wrong, 06 numbers is almost certainly a BC fan here to troll...god knows trolling a message board is likely preferable to rooting for the Meg Griffin of collegiate athletics. But this was an effective troll, so credit where credit is due.

In the offchance UConn does get into the Big 12, it is game over for BC athletics. Why not troll away now?
 
uc1974 said:
It'll be Joe Tessitore kissing Houston's nether regions for three and one half hours. Joe is the sports world's biggest shill and most insincere "expert" so who better than to cover this scenario. Ugh.
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Nah, Joe is one of the better ones out there.
 
Guys, disagreeing with the OP doesn't mean that the OP was trolling. Grow up and move on with your lives if you disagree. Our BC trolls are much more obvious than this.
 
What the hell is with you people? The OP comments are entirely plausible. UConn may have leaked that it is willing to put Olympic sports in a conference without football. Yes, to the Big East...but why just the Big East?

The ACC has a problem. That problem is Notre Dame. It creates an unbalanced schedule for all sports but football, and means that they effectively can't expand to 16 until ND decides. At that time, the possible #16 options may well be schools like ECU. UConn's Olympic sports, market location and academic profile easily outclasses any other school the ACC could consider. It isn't close...it's Harlem Globetrotters vs. Washington Generals.

So would UConn accept a ND style deal? Yes, certainly. Would the ACC offer one, if it got the same commitments (can't join another conference etc.). Maybe. Joining fully would be contingent on ND joining. They'd need to give us a scheduling arrangement for football so that we could go Independent, but hell, we're playing 3 ACC teams this year as it is. Since the ACC could do that for football, and pays more than than the NBE, they are the more viable option. How does the ACC lose in this scenario?
 
CL82 said:
If ESPN refuses to bump up their payments so that they maintain there pro rata distributions.

Once again, it all comes down to the World Wide Leader.
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Ahh yes. And now the brilliance of the Big East (Fox!) threat is revealed.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
Ahh yes. And now the brilliance of the Big East (Fox!) threat is revealed.
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If ESPiN tell ACC to add us and still maintain the same payout, we would be in the ACC shortly. It comes down to what ESPiN wants to get out of its long term commitment to the ACC and ACCN.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
If ESPiN tell ACC to add us and still maintain the same payout, we would be in the ACC shortly. It comes down to what ESPiN wants to get out of its long term commitment to the ACC and ACCN.
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Yes, but we'd take a reduced payout without football. I'm intrigued by the combination of the OP conversation (real or otherwise) and Flug's supposed OU contact's messages. The consultant metrics supposedly painted a strong picture for BYU in attendance related metrics, and strong for UConn on network "over the air" metrics. Now the OP says that the information gathered has reached other conferences. Well one of them is about to have a shiny new network, and UConn is in its footprint. ESPN certainly has seen the data presented to the Big 12, presumably showing UConn's strength for conference network. I am simply saying that it isn't far fetched that they could conclude that a reduced ACC payout for UConn is in their interest. By the time we give the AAC notice, that contract will in its last year anyway, and the ACC network will be spinning up.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Yes, but we'd take a reduced payout without football. I'm intrigued by the combination of the OP conversation (real or otherwise) and Flug's supposed OU contact's messages. The consultant metrics supposedly painted a strong picture for BYU in attendance related metrics, and strong for UConn on network "over the air" metrics. Now the OP says that the information gathered has reached other conferences. Well one of them is about to have a shiny new network, and UConn is in its footprint. ESPN certainly has seen the data presented to the Big 12, presumably showing UConn's strength for conference network. I am simply saying that it isn't far fetched that they could conclude that a reduced ACC payout for UConn is in their interest. By the time we give the AAC notice, that contract will in its last year anyway, and the ACC network will be spinning up.
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We certainly make sense for the ACC network. Then again, when has ACC done anything that made business sense? Most of us are still shaking our head at why a commuter school over us last round.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
We certainly make sense for the ACC network. Then again, when has ACC done anything that made business sense? Most of us are still shaking our head at why a commuter school over us last round.
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That commuter school has a top 10 football ranking right now. Even I have to admit, Louisville has earned its keep in the ACC.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
We certainly make sense for the ACC network. Then again, when has ACC done anything that made business sense? Most of us are still shaking our head at why a commuter school over us last round.
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Because Clemson and FSU demanded it.
 
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Tim Brando has said repeatedly that he thinks UConn will have a spot in the ACC. But I think that is contingent on ND joining full-time which, as we all know, might not happen for 20 years.

UConn's P5 data has always been there. It's football fan support has not. And that is our biggest dead weight on our B12 profile right now...which affords "other" P5 conferences to wait-and-see knowing we really do not have any other viable alternatives.
 
Dooley said:
Tim Brando has said repeatedly that he thinks UConn will have a spot in the ACC. But I think that is contingent on ND joining full-time which, as we all know, might not happen for 20 years.

UConn's P5 data has always been there. It's football fan support has not. And that is our biggest dead weight on our B12 profile right now...which affords "other" P5 conferences to wait-and-see knowing we really do not have any other viable alternatives.
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Yes, the fastest way to an ACC invite is to get a B12 invite.
 
Exit 4 said:
Yes, the fastest way to an ACC invite is to get a B12 invite.
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The fastest way to get *any* invite is to eliminate as many perceived weaknesses as possible. We're not getting into the B12 with less than 30K football crowds. We're not getting into ACC without Notre Dame joining first OR that feeling that we are about to be poached, ala Louisville. And how did Louisville get into the ACC? They supported their FB/MBB teams.
 
Dooley said:
The fastest way to get *any* invite is to eliminate as many perceived weaknesses as possible. We're not getting into the B12 with less than 30K football crowds. We're not getting into ACC without Notre Dame joining first OR that feeling that we are about to be poached, ala Louisville. And how did Louisville get into the ACC? They supported their FB/MBB teams.
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There is nothing to do in Louisville, which is one of the major reasons why they got great fan support.

I live in the Bay Area. There are multiple pro sports and college teams within half hour from me. We got Giants, As, 49ers, Raiders, Sharks, Earthquake, Warriors, Stanford, Cal, Santa Clara U, and San Jose State. Stanford is top 10 in football and no one give a most of the time. 49ers, Giants, and Warriors have great fan support. This is coming from someone with family connection to Stanford, Cal, and Santa Clara U. In addition, it's sunny so people are out there doing stuff.

I imagine it is similar in parts of CT. It is hard to compare to a state like KY. People simply have different life style. However, media markets in the NE simply are worth more because people got higher spending $$$$ on average. That's worth something to the media companies.
 
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Dooley said:
Tim Brando has said repeatedly that he thinks UConn will have a spot in the ACC. But I think that is contingent on ND joining full-time which, as we all know, might not happen for 20 years.

UConn's P5 data has always been there. It's football fan support has not. And that is our biggest dead weight on our B12 profile right now...which affords "other" P5 conferences to wait-and-see knowing we really do not have any other viable alternatives.
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Ill admit the fact that we've distributed only 26k, seats as of a few days ago is really discouraging. The school has lost all momentum moving football tix. In part they have to blame themselves for their constant screw ups, but also the fans wanting almost free tix is laughable.
 
MattMang23 said:
You can do that and still be at a place.
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But it's usually some eating pizza with a knife and fork.

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CTMike said:
Guys, disagreeing with the OP doesn't mean that the OP was trolling. Grow up and move on with your lives if you disagree. Our BC trolls are much more obvious than this.
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Why is it the one person, or persons, who needs to grow up and move on with their lives, is the one who tells someone to grow up and move on with their life?
 
noeynox said:
Ill admit the fact that we've distributed only 26k, seats as of a few days ago is really discouraging. The school has lost all momentum moving football tix. In part they have to blame themselves for their constant screw ups, but also the fans wanting almost free tix is laughable.
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The promotions were/are based on the hope Diaco got his head out of Verducci's rear end. Or even his own rear end.

If I was Herbst, I'd be using more than just a ruler for discipline.
 
noeynox said:
Ill admit the fact that we've distributed only 26k, seats as of a few days ago is really discouraging. The school has lost all momentum moving football tix. In part they have to blame themselves for their constant screw ups, but also the fans wanting almost free tix is laughable.
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Ticket prices do not help. To buy ticket next to my seats in 207 on -line they are $45 + $13 fees = $58 for VA and Cuse.
 
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