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Butler Post Game Thread

HuskyWarrior611 said:
I’m not saying Diarra is good at the end of the shot clock. But it’s obvious that’s what we trust him to do because he has the ball almost every single time it happens.

I don’t know why we don’t give Solo the ball more at the end of games
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I agree with the Solo Ball comment but Diarra should never have the ball at the end of the shot clock as he is cluless how to create. Ball's offensive game has been developing off the dribble and agree he should get more chances. I just want Diarra start the offense and give he ball to Karaban, Ball or McNeeley to create at the end of the shot clock.
 
After a back2back , losing 7 nba players in two years. A rebuild year was expected.

The Offense has a simple answer , we need Liam.

The Defense….. will be better next season. Cant imagine Dan having 2 bad defensive teams in a row. Especially with the talent pool he has now.

Enjoy player development
 
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Hard to figure out this team. In stretches they look really good, and in other stretches they look awful. Their opponents have a lot of 11-1 or 10-0 runs … but in general they are treading water while McNeeley out.

The bad: UConn fouls too much of three point shots. UConn has stretches where they can’t score, and opponents score 5 times in a row on iso drives or iso post ups. UConn also leaves shooters open in the corners all the time. If UConn’s offensive set doesn’t work they don’t have a great option of someone who can create their own shot in the last 7 seconds of clock.

The good: When UConn blocks a shot or gets a steal they get some nice transition transition baskets. UConn runs some nice offensive sets and gets a lot of good shots off their sets. Ball is a great shooter, and getting better are scoring in different ways. Karaban is a great player and makes a lot of clutch baskets.

To do anything postseason UConn needs:
1. A healthy McNeeley
2. Jaylyn Stewart to play consistently good, and not just good every 3rd game.
3. Either Mahaney or Nowell to be a player who can consistently score when driving to hoop.
 
3rdbass said:
I agree with the Solo Ball comment but Diarra should never have the ball at the end of the shot clock as he is cluless how to create. Ball's offensive game has been developing off the dribble and agree he should get more chances. I just want Diarra start the offense and give he ball to Karaban, Ball or McNeeley to create at the end of the shot clock.
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We’re in agreement. Sorry if that wasn’t clear.

I’m saying our coaching staff trusts Diarra to do that. But I do not agree with the decision to do that.
 
Still struggling to inbound the ball. Karaban had to take a TO. Hope we correct this as late season big games will be at risk. Our D still is rough but it is the scoring droughts that get us in trouble. Samson again with the ball at the key with no defender on him. As others mentioned passing to Samson outside with under 10 on the shot clock. Why? Alex did a lot this game with a sore ankle. He really tried to make the winning plays in the second half and led the way. Game ball to him.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
No that’s not the reason. But he was drafted there for a reason. I don’t care to have a Newton conversation because it’d sound harsh and the board wouldn’t be that receptive anyways.
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Well how your rate him as an NBA player has no impact on how good of a college player he was. You know Adama Sanogo is all playing the G Leaugue. So you are also saying he wouldn't be an impactful player on this team?
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
Then why did he have to force his way to go to a team who’ll play him at PG in the NBA?
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That someone played point in college does not necessarily mean those skills will play at the level needed in the NBA. Cam last year and Andre the year before ran a lot of point but the NBA didn’t look at them as point guards.
 
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3rdbass said:
Well how your rate him as an NBA player has no impact on how good of a college player he was. You know Adama Sanogo is all playing the G Leaugue. So you are also saying he wouldn't be an impactful player on this team?
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I’m not judging him by his NBA play. I’m judging him based on the fact that on one of the most efficient offenses with talent all around him he managed to shoot 40% from the field and 30% from 3.

I checked the box scores from when Clingan was out last year today. You should too and look at what Newton was doing during that time.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
I don’t care too much one way or another but I can certainly see why people hate this lmao
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Danny may have watched the way the Chiefs’ last game was officiated and maybe it set him off even more that this two time defending champion can’t sniff the gift calls that two time defending champion gets lol. NFL Memes was literally mocking it for most of the game, and deservedly so.
 
WhereistheDove? said:
That someone played point in college does not necessarily mean those skills will play at the level needed in the NBA. Cam last year and Andre the year before ran a lot of point but the NBA didn’t look at them as point guards.
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Because they weren’t.

And I’m tired of explaining the change we made in 23’ that proved that for Andre too. Understand what you’re watching.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
I’m not judging him by his NBA play. I’m judging him based on the fact that on one of the most efficient offenses with talent all around him he managed to shoot 40% from the field and 30% from 3.

I checked the box scores from when Clingan was out last year today. You should too and look at what Newton was doing during that time.
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So it is all about his shooting. He also created for others with his penetration. He was also a good rebounder and underrated defender.
 
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#11, 14, 18, 22, 23 all lost tonight, with only one of those losses coming against a ranked team. #15 is currently losing to an unranked team.

Texas was one of the teams to beat a ranked team.

UConn escaped with a win vs. a sub 90 NET.

Some of you need to get some perspective.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
Hurley star pupil = All American and 59th pick in the NBA draft

This board and I have very different opinions of Tristan Newton but that’s okay. I’m hoping Hurley has better star pupils to show off his development with in the future.

This sophomore class is a great chance to do that because they’ll be here for more than 2 years. Develop these very talented young men that trusted in your coaching enough to come here. Please do not give up on them to grab a transfer guy someone else already coached up.
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The first round of NBA draft is mostly guys who were ranked by scouts out of high school as top 15 players, and young foreign players who are ranked high by scouts. NBA does not care how good you are right now, they just want to draft lotto tickets(ie, young players with high upside). If you are not drafted in first round you will never get a chance to show what you can do unless you get lucky and land on an injury depleted team, or luck into a coach that somehow notices what you can do and is willing to break convention and give a second round player some minutes. Half the NBA teams these days are trying to lose on purpose, and playing an awful player who has high upside, is better than playing someone who is good now and might actually help you win games. All these teams have same road map, lose now and collect a large pool of raw young players, and hope they all magically mature into stars at the same time in the future.
 
3rdbass said:
So it is all about his shooting. He also created for others with his penetration. He was also a good rebounder and underrated defender.
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People talk about him on this board like he’s one of our best players ever. You’re describing a good role player. Which…
 
alphasigko said:
They scored 5 points in the last 7 minutes to Butler's 16....at home....How is that even remotely possible?
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Three primary reasons:

1) We don’t have a bucket getter.
2) We don’t score much on the offensive glass
3) We don’t get to the foul line.

You can get away with the first, if you can get easy points from the second or third
 
nelsonmuntz said:
There was a lot UConn could do better, and this crew has some pretty severe self-destructive impulses, but they are paying hard and pulling these games out for the most part.
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Yeah, I don't get the idea that UConn isn't playing hard or that there is some level of effort that we're not giving that will overcome every opponent.

We crash the boards with like 4 guys every play. We hack the crap out of people when they come into the lane and for the most part don't give up easy buckets.

If you want to argue they're not mentally tough, okay, I guess, but we've won a bunch of close games this year.

What we are is weak, as in not strong. We have younger, finesse players without a lot of muscle who play hard, but are playing against a lot of strong, ole upperclassmen. Diarra is quicker and longer than he is strong. Ball has insane shoulders/arms, but he's one positional height/weight size small. Stewart is athletic, but not particularly strong. Karaban is average size for his position. Samson has improved his body, but he's still lacking lower body and core strength. We have to use our hands to hold and grab or just get pushed aside, because we can't just use our shoulder and can't hold our ground, outside of only really Reed. This is particularly noticeable against teams with real strength and beef on the wing like Butler.

We're also just not that good in the overall sense (especially without Liam), so can't put teams away. For some reason, people on this board forgot the old phrase "everybody makes a run". We were immune last year because we were epically good. We're not this year. Everyone makes a run. Won the game.
 
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