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Hate to beat a dead horse here but...
1. Changing shots defensively is not quantifiable, and its a huge need for this team that struggles to score. Just look at our KenPom defense- he's a huge part of it

2. Offensive skillsets are not built overnight. Do people not remember Hilton Armstrong or even a poor man's Hasheem. There were always facepalm moments but they both got EXPONENTIALLY better throughout their college tenures.
 
Gurleyman said:
When I say you are over reacting to one game, and then you only cite examples from that one game, you just reinforce my point. Everything you saw against USF is correct - he played poorly.

In the previous 3 games, he was 14-17 from the floor. He was 5-6 at Tulsa (two jumpers - one from 15 feet along the baseline over a defender playing off him, two dunks, and a put back layup with a foul), he was 3-4 at Stanford (no dunks - two low post jump hooks and a short jumper) in very limited minutes, and 6-7 against UCF (mostly dunks).

There are a lot of lobs in that total of 76 baskets, but you can't explain it all away with those.
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Ok you're right. Now explain THE point, only point, yesterday with all the touches he had and there were a lot? He's better, but not always. But if you're happy then good.
 
Brimah would have looked better if TSam stopped throwing passes at his feet.

He did a great job defending the rim. He also did a nice job protecting without fouling.

He is a difference maker every time he steps on the court. If we want him to score, he needs to get the ball in scoring position at the right time. He can't do that by himself.
 
husky91 said:
You're really bright, great analysis on Brimah. How do you explain his games against Duke or Tex or Stanford or 35 mins against Florida.

But I agree he is a consensus 1st team AA along with Okafor, Facey, T Sam and Stanley Johnson.
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Did any of this make sense in your head? I assure you, it does not on the screen.
 
Husky91 my man, just to clear things up for you in case you're a little confused:

There's a difference between looking critically at our players and taking explosive craps all over them. Unfortunately, you don't seem to be well acquainted with that nuance.
 
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Stairmaster said:
Husky91 my man, just to clear things up for you in case you're a little confused:

There's a difference between looking critically at our players and taking explosive craps all over them. Unfortunately, you don't seem to be well acquainted with that nuance.
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"explosive craps" - that's pretty funny stuff.
 
That was 6 months ago, and therefore in another universe. But might explain his issues this season.
 
sledog said:
That was 6 months ago, and therefore in another universe. But might explain his issues this season.
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That was 9 months ago, not 6.

More importantly you asked how he avoided big man camp last summer and the poster was trying to tell you why, but apparently you missed the connection between shoulder surgery in the spring and not going to camp in the summer.

So I'll clear things up for you. Brimah missed big man camp last summer because he was recovering from shoulder surgery that he had in the spring.

Got it now?
 
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Who missed the connection?

After 30+ years as a UC fan, I must be getting distracted by winters in Palm Beach. But I'm sure you'll keep us appraised of the minutia. Do carry on.
 
I can't believe people are complaining about AB in this thread. The guy is really good for a sophomore, check the numbers. Anchors the D and is a viable option on O
 
James said:
I can't believe people are complaining about AB in this thread. The guy is really good for a sophomore, check the numbers. Anchors the D and is a viable option on O
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No one is complaining just pointing out the obvious. I know I appreciate the support on the D side and his rebounding is getting better. He just has a long ways to go on O and that's more than obvious. A couple of jump hooks is great but being able to get them off means you need to change. Create space and take the face-up jumper because he seems to shoot it better facing, or at least gets shots off that way. The fact he can't pass hurts our flow too, you're not getting anything out of throwing it in there unless he shoots it. This is not complaining because others have weaknesses too, let's be honest. It's just an assessment of where he is on that end. No alley opps, no O from him as of late and he needs to change that.
 
Some of you dudes are thick as concrete. He had shoulder surgery as has been explained over and over again.
 
donyell34 said:
Some of you dudes are thick as concrete. He had shoulder surgery as has been explained over and over again.
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Yeah but we were told early and often he worked hard on his offense. I get that he lost a summer and that's great. But have you seen improvement on offense from game one this year besides alley oops? I am also not denying it will take time, I am just pointing it out that it needs to be better. And some day it will, maybe not this year.

So in that case I'm not sure who is the concrete.;)
 
mauconnfan said:
Yeah but we were told early and often he worked hard on his offense. I get that he lost a summer and that's great. But have you seen improvement on offense from game one this year besides alley oops? I am also not denying it will take time, I am just pointing it out that it needs to be better. And some day it will, maybe not this year.

So in that case I'm not sure who is the concrete.;)
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I've seen an improvement. I can't remember him hitting one twelve-footer last year and he's doing it with regularity right now. He's still got a long way to go, but he's more polished than he was last year.
 
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AB just has to get stronger to be effective in the post. As soon as he gets double teamed or someone bodies him on defense he loses the ball. He just isn't strong enough to be a real effective post player this year. What he can do though is learning to make fast decisions (jump hook, jump shot or pass out to someone else open) as he has been getting better position down low. If the staff works on his basketball intuition of reacting fast and making smart decisions he can at least be decent for the rest of this year. Unfortunately right now it still seems like he is holding a live grenade when he gets the ball in the post. I'm glad his rebounding is improving and this seems to be directly related to getting better position down low. So part of his game is coming around besides his game changing D.
 
mauconnfan said:
But have you seen improvement on offense from game one this year besides alley oops?
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Yes. He made 1.5 FG a game last year (64 in 40 games) and this year he's making over 4 per game (76 in 18 games). It's not all lobs. He's made jump hooks with both hands and face up jumpers out to 18 feet - things he didn't do last year.

Although the lefty jump hook seems like it's gone back to the storage bin for now, he hasn't tried one of those in a while - which has made it easier to play him for the right hand. And when he goes to the righty hook and gets a body bump low (no foul - just standard low post body contact), his form collapses and the ball often doesn't get to the rim. This offseason needs to involve a lot of repetition to iron down his form - and also a lot of folks pushing him around with those football padded blocking devices as he shoots so he can shoot through contact. But he's already taken the first step of making shots in game situations and actually being in the scouting report.
 
mauconnfan said:
Yeah but we were told early and often he worked hard on his offense. I get that he lost a summer and that's great. But have you seen improvement on offense from game one this year besides alley oops? I am also not denying it will take time, I am just pointing it out that it needs to be better. And some day it will, maybe not this year.

So in that case I'm not sure who is the concrete.;)
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The bottom line is we're getting 10 points per game from a sophomore center who was not even a top-150 recruit.

And I get that he scores an awful lot of points on lobs, but if it were so easy why don't our other bigs do the same thing? For that matter, why hasn't anybody since Drummond (and that includes freshman year Amida Brimah) been able to do that as effectively as Brimah does now?
 
If a week at a big man camp in the summer proves so beneficial, why is it that we do not have a legitimate big man coach? Not being argumentative or trying to dredge up a name from the past, but the front line development doesn't seem to be happening.
 
tennmike said:
If a week at a big man camp in the summer proves so beneficial, why is it that we do not have a legitimate big man coach? Not being argumentative or trying to dredge up a name from the past, but the front line development doesn't seem to be happening.
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From the last page:

Last year in 40 games (starting 17) he played 16 minutes/game, averaged 4 points, 3 rebounds, shot 57% from the free throw line, 64% from the field, and 2.3 blocks per game.

This year in 18 games (starting 18) he plays 26 minutes/game, averages 10 points, 5 rebounds, shooting 64.8% from the free throw line, and 69% from the field, and he's averaging 2.7 blocks per game.

His numbers are up across the board. Literally every aspect of his game has improved. And if you want to complain about fouls, last year he averaged 2.9 fouls per game, this year 3.0 (and he's playing 10 more minutes/game). So he's improved there too.

And he's improved all of that after missing just about the entire off-season.
 
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Rico444 said:
I've seen an improvement. I can't remember him hitting one twelve-footer last year and he's doing it with regularity right now. He's still got a long way to go, but he's more polished than he was last year.
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Rico I agree. But regularity? I said he shoots to better facing, but he's not taking any of those as of late to my point.
 
whaler11 said:
It's pretty frustrating to watch a player who can't catch the ball. He dropped two passes that were lobbed in like balloons to kick the game off.
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how can anyone make this complaint against him? Do you just turn away when he comes out of the game or can your eyes not see Phil Nolan? Brimah is no allstar, but he catches and holds the ball like Beckham Jr compared to Philly
 
Kembacity said:
how can anyone make this complaint against him? Do you just turn away when he comes out of the game or can your eyes not see Phil Nolan? Brimah is no allstar, but he catches and holds the ball like Beckham Jr compared to Philly
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The thread is about Brimah... so the comment was about him?
 
whaler11 said:
The thread is about Brimah... so the comment was about him?
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if he couldn't catch the ball then he wouldn't have completed all these lobs. I get that Sunday's start from him was frustrating, but the hyperbole, and the hyperbole from the Brimah detractors who insist he hasn't improved when they've had every statistic possible thrown in their face to prove thats not the case, is a bit much.
 
aceboon said:
if he couldn't catch the ball then he wouldn't have completed all these lobs. I get that Sunday's start from him was frustrating, but the hyperbole, and the hyperbole from the Brimah detractors who insist he hasn't improved when they've had every statistic possible thrown in their face to prove thats not the case, is a bit much.
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I would like to him see catch the ball better. I don't think I'd categorize my comment as hyperbole.
 
And I would like to see you order your words correctly, and leave the basketball to him and his coaching staff
 
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