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[intlzncster]

I think it's logical to look at UCONN this year and say "they are a juggernaut and it's very unlikely anyone can topple them so let's look at next year and see who might win, if not UCONN".

We lose Mo and Stewie - possibly the 2 best players in the country, but if Moriah isn't the 2nd best player, she's certainly top 5 talent-wise, and what she does for the UCONN team. Replacing them will not be like "replacing" Dolson/Hartley or KML/Stokes.

SC loses Imbovich, Sessions, Roy, Mitchell, and Dozier. That's a lot.
ND loses Cable, Maybrey and Huffman. 2 starters. Not as much as what UCONN loses, but that's a lot.
Baylor loses Johnson, Fuqua and Higgins - only 1 starter.
Maryland loses Howard, Moseley, Pfirfman and Pavelech. Not sure who is a starter but from scoring, it's 3, 5 and 9.
Texas loses Boyette, Davenport, Rodrigo and Sanders. I think that's 2 starters and 1, 5 and 7 in team scoring..
tOSU loses Alston, Craft, and that's it. I think it's 1 starter and #2 and 6 on team scoring.

Look at the top 20 recruits for next year - Baylor has 2, as does Texas, Maryland and ND. OSU has 2 if you include the transfer Linnae Harper. UCONN has 1 and SC has 1 in transfer Kaela Davis, but I also think they are getting a really good PG from Canada - I'm not sure how "good" she is but I think UCONN fans would agree that Nurse is probably top 10 in her class so if this other PG is top 20, that would give SC 2 new top players coming in.

I think UCONN and SC lose the most. Baylor loses the least. I would not be surprised to see Baylor start next year #1, but that's way premature. Taking UCONN out of the equation, I think it's very close near the top for these 6 other teams but maybe it would be in the order of Baylor, SC, ND, Texas, tOSU and Maryland. Throw UCONN in there somewhere - between 1 and 3, and there's your preseason top 7.

I'd agree that UCONN loses the most, but only because those two players are so much better than everyone else in the country. Also, UCONN starts so much higher to begin with (a 10/10) while the rest of the field is lower (7.5/10). So UCONN losing a lot, while the others lose less, doesnt necessarily drop them below all the others.

 

[Sonny44]

I was expecting some drop off going into next year regardless. There is no way we can sustain the current run. Even UCONN had a couple of "down years" post-DT. We cannot win the NC every year.

That was due mostly to one player who never fulfilled.

 

[Fightin Choke]

I think it's logical to look at UCONN this year and say "they are a juggernaut and it's very unlikely anyone can topple them so let's look at next year and see who might win, if not UCONN".

We lose Mo and Stewie - possibly the 2 best players in the country, but if Moriah isn't the 2nd best player, she's certainly top 5 talent-wise, and what she does for the UCONN team. Replacing them will not be like "replacing" Dolson/Hartley or KML/Stokes.

SC loses Imbovich, Sessions, Roy, Mitchell, and Dozier. That's a lot.
ND loses Cable, Maybrey and Huffman. 2 starters. Not as much as what UCONN loses, but that's a lot.
Baylor loses Johnson, Fuqua and Higgins - only 1 starter.
Maryland loses Howard, Moseley, Pfirfman and Pavelech. Not sure who is a starter but from scoring, it's 3, 5 and 9.
Texas loses Boyette, Davenport, Rodrigo and Sanders. I think that's 2 starters and 1, 5 and 7 in team scoring..
tOSU loses Alston, Craft, and that's it. I think it's 1 starter and #2 and 6 on team scoring.

Look at the top 20 recruits for next year - Baylor has 2, as does Texas, Maryland and ND. OSU has 2 if you include the transfer Linnae Harper. UCONN has 1 and SC has 1 in transfer Kaela Davis, but I also think they are getting a really good PG from Canada - I'm not sure how "good" she is but I think UCONN fans would agree that Nurse is probably top 10 in her class so if this other PG is top 20, that would give SC 2 new top players coming in.

I think UCONN and SC lose the most. Baylor loses the least. I would not be surprised to see Baylor start next year #1, but that's way premature. Taking UCONN out of the equation, I think it's very close near the top for these 6 other teams but maybe it would be in the order of Baylor, SC, ND, Texas, tOSU and Maryland. Throw UCONN in there somewhere - between 1 and 3, and there's your preseason top 7.

You missed a very important transfer for SC, Alisha Gray, who you can certainly consider a top 20 recruit.

 

[Sluconn Husky]

Most of the players ND and SC lose are complimentary pieces, imo. Cable's having an excellent senior season so far, Mitchell is not. UConn is losing two superstars. Regardless, this won't be like having a powerhouse UConn or Baylor team at the top with a gap to the rest. It'll be open for a few including the Huskies if things break right.

 

[Fightin Choke]

I don't believe they have more talent then UConn. SC will not be much of a threat with outside shooters. Both ND and SC are struggling this season against good teams. They lose a lot to graduation after this season. The games next season will be more competitive. I believe UConn executes better and is better defensively then both next season. JMO UConn will not be a the level they have been in the past few years mainly because of lack of multiple superstars on the roster. The will still be very very good. If Tuck stays UConn will be fine. Katie Lou and Collier will be great next season. Im saying based on a past game when Geno played them with Nurse Tuck and Chong. That group looked terrific playing together. Im looking forward to the MSG game with MD on the 28th. Will you be there? Would love to meet you.

Notre Dame is struggling against good teams because of injuries. When you train for a traditional 2-big/3-guard offense and have to suddenly play a 4-guard offense, there will be struggles. Now that Reimer is out of the picture (at least for this season), will ND stick with a 4-guard offense, or practice both the traditional and the 4-guard? If ND starts Westbeld and Turner, who do they bring in when there is foul trouble? Nelson does not seem ready to play significant minutes, as she accumulates fouls very quickly, and Thompson may never be ready for a bigger role. Unless match-ups dictate a different line-up, I would think that ND sticks with the 4-guard line-up and spells Turner with Westbeld. After the team becomes accustomed to the 4-guard line-up, we can ask whether they are still struggling against good teams.

And ND doesn't lose too much next season. Cable is certainly a huge loss, but she didn't even start last season. She is a great example of a player making incremental improvements year by year and thus playing far above her 52nd ranking by Hoopgurlz. Huffman is a great effort player but again, she was ranked 52nd by Hoopgurlz. She has greatly improved her minutes this season because of her rebounding and defense, but she barely played last season (10 mpg, 2 ppg). Michaela is a team leader (2-time captain, 2-year starter), so she will be missed but there is better talent below her waiting to emerge from under her shadow. Considering (1) the incremental improvement that typical Notre Dame players achieve, (2) the fact that the incoming class is elite (Patberg back from injury, Jackie Young, Erin Boley) and Muffet has a willingness to use young talent immediately, and (3) the possible return of Taya Reimer from injury and her self-imposed hiatus, ND is expected to be much better next year than this year.

 

[MilfordHusky]

I'm hoping our mantra next year will be: "We have Morgan, and you don't!"

If she returns, I really like our chances in 2016-17. If Morgan does not return, we need someone to step up. Kia is very tough, and Gabby is uber-athletic and improving. Natalie could be very, very good. I'll be interested in seeing Lou and Pheesa grow. They both have AA potential and maybe NPOY potential. Crystal looks like a future star. The following season will be bolstered IF we can get Megan Walker.

 

[intlzncster]

That was due mostly to one player who never fulfilled.

Nah, not just Charde. Two big girls transferred (Kelly McCormick? from NZ; Liz Sherwood) and Kennitra Johnson transferred. A post player recruit (Langhorne?) was supposed heavy UCONN leans but matriculated at MD at the last second (maybe this was Harper--memory is fuzzy). Another kid (Brittnay Hunter) wanted to come but was steered towards Duke by parents, busted her knee, transferred to UCONN, but was never the same since. Another stud guard (Nicole Wolff) was ravished by injuries and never got off the ground.

It was a perfect storm sort of thing.

 

[intlzncster]

I'm hoping our mantra next year will be: "We have Morgan, and you don't!"

If she returns, I really like our chances in 2016-17. If Morgan does not return, we need someone to step up. Kia is very tough, and Gabby is uber-athletic and improving. Natalie could be very, very good. I'll be interested in seeing Lou and Pheesa grow. They both have AA potential and maybe NPOY potential. Crystal looks like a future star. The following season will be bolstered IF we can get Megan Walker.

Has something recent been said that has cast doubt on her return? Everything I read previously has her slated to come back, directly from her mouth. But I've admittedly not kept up with it all. Strange things happen, but a while ago, I'd have put it at 95% return, given the information out there.

 

[MilfordHusky]

Has something recent been said that has cast doubt on her return? Everything I read previously has her slated to come back, directly from her mouth. But I've admittedly not kept up with it all. Strange things happen, but a while ago, I'd have put it at 95% return, given the information out there.

There are several opinions and statements, though the dates on some of the statements may be unclear. I've read that she's planning on returning and also that she hasn't decided.

 

[HuskyNan]

Tuck has said repeatedly that she intends on returning to UConn next season to play a graduate season after her class – Stewart, Jefferson and Briana Pulido – graduates.

UConn's Morgan Tuck Might Be Overshadowed, But Geno Appreciates Her, Courant

 

[hjoerring]

Look up Stewie's stats from mid-December of her freshman year and tell me if they're All American stats.

Cannot believe you are making an argument about KLS based on similar stats for a few games. IMO Stewart and KLS were 2 diff #1s. Stewart carried far more expectations for Uconn and for any other team. KLS not so. She was not expected to be transformative- just a great/good shooter. It is true however that in the early going of their career they had issues. This is not to say that KLS will not, in the end, be the very best player ever!

 

[billnaples]

I went through the list someone provided of the transfers over many years. There were about 20 names. There were fewer than 6/7 that I recognized as having played much if any. So I think most of the kids who left were likely issues of minutes, one clearly a clash of kid/parents/coach (Sherwood). I recall Kinnetra Johnson and Samarie Walker got fair amount of court time. Engeln, Edwards, Johnson Played some, not enough for any ego. Why put Walters (injuries) and EDD (burnout, you should know the story), on the list at all, The reality is that few true tier one players leave good programs. Deshields may be the most talented player in 10-15 years to leave and want to bet it was at least in part over the potential for the program to get hammered by NCAA. Way overblown to believe transferring is a major problem., especially at UConn.

 

[HoopsFan21]

I went through the list someone provided of the transfers over many years. There were about 20 names. There were fewer than 6/7 that I recognized as having played much if any. So I think most of the kids who left were likely issues of minutes, one clearly a clash of kid/parents/coach (Sherwood). I recall Kinnetra Johnson and Samarie Walker got fair amount of court time. Engeln, Edwards, Johnson Played some, not enough for any ego. Why put Walters (injuries) and EDD (burnout, you should know the story), on the list at all, The reality is that few true tier one players leave good programs. Deshields may be the most talented player in 10-15 years to leave and want to bet it was at least in part over the potential for the program to get hammered by NCAA. Way overblown to believe transferring is a major problem., especially at UConn.

20 names is kind of a lot actually considering most of the transfers have occurred over such a short time (maybe 10 years?).

 

[HuskyNan]

I went through the list someone provided of the transfers over many years. There were about 20 names. There were fewer than 6/7 that I recognized as having played much if any. So I think most of the kids who left were likely issues of minutes, one clearly a clash of kid/parents/coach (Sherwood). I recall Kinnetra Johnson and Samarie Walker got fair amount of court time. Engeln, Edwards, Johnson Played some, not enough for any ego. Why put Walters (injuries) and EDD (burnout, you should know the story), on the list at all, The reality is that few true tier one players leave good programs. Deshields may be the most talented player in 10-15 years to leave and want to bet it was at least in part over the potential for the program to get hammered by NCAA. Way overblown to believe transferring is a major problem., especially at UConn.

Kennitra is intensely shy and private. While she loved her teammates, she disliked the fishbowl the Huskies live in. Likewise, other transfers had their own reasons for leaving. I don't know why you'd want to label all the transfers as playing time or conflict issues when that is absolutely not true, including Liz.

 

[intlzncster]

Kennitra is intensely shy and private. While she loved her teammates, she disliked the fishbowl lives the Huskies live. Likewise, other transfers had their own reasons for leaving. I don't know why you'd want to label all the transfers as playing time or conflict issues when that is absolutely not true, including Liz.

Heck, McCormick wanted to play netball in NZ. A million reasons for transferring. The only one with any friction I can remember was Samarie.

 

[Tenspro2002]

Has something recent been said that has cast doubt on her return? Everything I read previously has her slated to come back, directly from her mouth. But I've admittedly not kept up with it all. Strange things happen, but a while ago, I'd have put it at 95% return, given the information out there.

There are several opinions and statements, though the dates on some of the statements may be unclear. I've read that she's planning on returning and also that she hasn't decided.

Tuck has said repeatedly that she intends on returning to UConn next season to play a graduate season after her class – Stewart, Jefferson and Briana Pulido – graduates.

UConn's Morgan Tuck Might Be Overshadowed, But Geno Appreciates Her, Courant

Every public statement she has made has indicated a desire to return.

Despite that, I have a feeling that come April, after rationally weighing the pros and cons, she will decide it more prudent to begin her professional career. I would love to eat a heaping plate of crow on that, especially considering that if I'm right we are going to have a fairly depleted roster.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

20 names is kind of a lot actually considering most of the transfers have occurred over such a short time (maybe 10 years?).

Thank God we've lived through it, huh!

 

[MilfordHusky]

Tuck has said repeatedly that she intends on returning to UConn next season to play a graduate season after her class – Stewart, Jefferson and Briana Pulido – graduates.

UConn's Morgan Tuck Might Be Overshadowed, But Geno Appreciates Her, Courant

I know she made that statement last April. She may have said the same at Media Day. My concern is that it may be old information. Doris said in November that she was probably leaving. I doubt that Doris has better info than the Horde. I'd love to see a current interview, for our collective peace of mind, but I don't want to see Morgan distracted from the task at hand--making her team as good as possible and winning out through April. I hope she stays and can see the arguments on both sides. I'm confident that Morgan will make a well-reasoned decision. We'll know in time.

 

[CTyankee]

Very classy for Geno to air out the dirty laundry about her academics..guess he's trying to do damage control with this chronic transfer (especially two McD's in consecutive years) issue..

Ohhh... Ouch....

 

[EricSD]

Tuck has said repeatedly that she intends on returning to UConn next season to play a graduate season after her class – Stewart, Jefferson and Briana Pulido – graduates.

UConn's Morgan Tuck Might Be Overshadowed, But Geno Appreciates Her, Courant

BUT BUT BUT... This article, even tho it was printed Dec 15, does not say WHEN Morgan made that comment, or who she made it to. For those reasons I think it's still murky what she intends to do after this year... <For the record, my comment was complete SARCASM>.

I guess people will say and post what they want regardless of the facts at hand. For example, even tho David Price signed a multi million $ contract with the Sox for 7 years, I still say he will be gone after 1 year. You know, the Sox may not win the world series and he may decide to bail. I mean, that's about as logical as the "Morgan will leave early" comments. Oh well...!

 

[HoopsFan21]

I know she made that statement last April. She may have said the same at Media Day. My concern is that it may be old information. Doris said in November that she was probably leaving. I doubt that Doris has better info than the Horde. I'd love to see a current interview, for our collective peace of mind, but I don't want to see Morgan distracted from the task at hand--making her team as good as possible and winning out through April. I hope she stays and can see the arguments on both sides. I'm confident that Morgan will make a well-reasoned decision. We'll know in time.

Lobo more or less said the same thing as Doris regarding Tuck during the ND (or maybe it was FSU) game and said she had spoken to Geno about it just that morning. Why would Rebecca Lobo lie about something like that? Jewell Loyd said she was coming back too until she wasn't, and her decision came a day or two before the last game of the season. I hope Morgan does come back because she will be needed next season more than ever.

 

[intlzncster]

Lobo more or less said the same thing as Doris regarding Tuck during the ND (or maybe it was FSU) game and said she had spoken to Geno about it just that morning. Why would Rebecca Lobo lie about something like that? Jewell Loyd said she was coming back too until she wasn't, and her decision came a day or two before the last game of the season. I hope Morgan does come back because she will be needed next season more than ever.

Huge hole if she leaves. My projections for the team are based on her staying

 

[billnaples]

Kennitra is intensely shy and private. While she loved her teammates, she disliked the fishbowl the Huskies live in. Likewise, other transfers had their own reasons for leaving. I don't know why you'd want to label all the transfers as playing time or conflict issues when that is absolutely not true, including Liz.

Apologies Nan if you perceived what I said to be an all encompassing statement about the entire list of transfers. I at no time have personally known any of the ladies so absent some PR release I have no special insight. Could have been they didn't like the closeness of cows. I certainly accept that any and maybe most of them left the program for more than one reason. As far as Liz Sherwood was concerned their were by all the accounts I have seen issues with her parents and her conditioning. I know a few wanted to be closer to home. Any one who has experienced any kind of an urban existence might also get lost in the "country" around Storrs. I do think that the issues of transfers has been intensified over the last couple of years. Some of those from back in the mid to late '90's could leave in relative obscurity. From the recent departures I am pretty sure I saw PT as at least a primary cause for Sadie & Lauren and I'll be very honest the overwhelming reaction I had to the list was I don't recall anything about...... fill in the blank.

 

[SCGamecock]

I think it's logical to look at UCONN this year and say "they are a juggernaut and it's very unlikely anyone can topple them so let's look at next year and see who might win, if not UCONN".

We lose Mo and Stewie - possibly the 2 best players in the country, but if Moriah isn't the 2nd best player, she's certainly top 5 talent-wise, and what she does for the UCONN team. Replacing them will not be like "replacing" Dolson/Hartley or KML/Stokes.

SC loses Imbovich, Sessions, Roy, Mitchell, and Dozier. That's a lot.
ND loses Cable, Maybrey and Huffman. 2 starters. Not as much as what UCONN loses, but that's a lot.
Baylor loses Johnson, Fuqua and Higgins - only 1 starter.
Maryland loses Howard, Moseley, Pfirfman and Pavelech. Not sure who is a starter but from scoring, it's 3, 5 and 9.
Texas loses Boyette, Davenport, Rodrigo and Sanders. I think that's 2 starters and 1, 5 and 7 in team scoring..
tOSU loses Alston, Craft, and that's it. I think it's 1 starter and #2 and 6 on team scoring.

Look at the top 20 recruits for next year - Baylor has 2, as does Texas, Maryland and ND. OSU has 2 if you include the transfer Linnae Harper. UCONN has 1 and SC has 1 in transfer Kaela Davis, but I also think they are getting a really good PG from Canada - I'm not sure how "good" she is but I think UCONN fans would agree that Nurse is probably top 10 in her class so if this other PG is top 20, that would give SC 2 new top players coming in.

I think UCONN and SC lose the most. Baylor loses the least. I would not be surprised to see Baylor start next year #1, but that's way premature. Taking UCONN out of the equation, I think it's very close near the top for these 6 other teams but maybe it would be in the order of Baylor, SC, ND, Texas, tOSU and Maryland. Throw UCONN in there somewhere - between 1 and 3, and there's your preseason top 7.

We have two top 20 transfers coming in next year, Alisha Gray (UNC) and Kaela Davis (GT). We also have a two true freshmen, top 35 pg Bradshaw and top 100 power forward Harrigan. That Canadian guard you're referring to is already on campus, freshmen Shay Colley. She's getting a lot of playing time but isn't being asked to do too much. I think she'll end up being our starting PG next year if Cuevas keeps excelling at 2. Cuevas is performing well at the 2 because it allows her to score and not manage the floor, she wants to score.

Our likely starters next year will be 1. Colley/Cuevas 2. Gray 3. Davis 4. Wilson 5. Coates. Like you said, we lose a lot this year. Mitchell is the big lost but adding Gray and Davis SHOULD lessen that blow. Imovbioh will be a big lost as well, that hits our post depth (Something SC loves to exploit). Sessions is hot and cold offensively at PG but typically reliable and stable as a defender. Her defense will be missed. Roy and Dozier are hot and cold spot up outside shooters with no ability to drive to the hoop, Gray and Davis are HUGE upgrades at the guard positions.

All in all, yes I agree, SC loses a lot but we also upgrade at spots too. Like a previous poster said, we mostly lose complimentary pieces after this season, so I think our roster losses are being overstated just a little bit. We upgrade at guard, but our post depth takes a hit. Cuevas, Cliney and Duckett will provide depth at guard. White will give depth at post. Dawn won't have the bench she's used to so the minutes will tighten.

I think we'll be a top 10ish team next year. We should score more.

 

[easttexastrash]

We have two top 20 transfers coming in next year, Alisha Gray (UNC) and Kaela Davis (GT). We also have a two true freshmen, top 35 pg Bradshaw and top 100 power forward Harrigan. That Canadian guard you're referring to is already on campus, freshmen Shay Colley. She's getting a lot of playing time but isn't being asked to do too much. I think she'll end up being our starting PG next year if Cuevas keeps excelling at 2. Cuevas is performing well at the 2 because it allows her to score and not manage the floor, she wants to score.

Our likely starters next year will be 1. Colley/Cuevas 2. Gray 3. Davis 4. Wilson 5. Coates. Like you said, we lose a lot this year. Mitchell is the big lost but adding Gray and Davis SHOULD lessen that blow. Imovbioh will be a big lost as well, that hits our post depth (Something SC loves to exploit). Sessions is hot and cold offensively at PG but typically reliable and stable as a defender. Her defense will be missed. Roy and Dozier are hot and cold spot up outside shooters with no ability to drive to the hoop, Gray and Davis are HUGE upgrades at the guard positions.

All in all, yes I agree, SC loses a lot but we also upgrade at spots too. Like a previous poster said, we mostly lose complimentary pieces after this season, so I think our roster losses are being overstated just a little bit. We upgrade at guard, but our post depth takes a hit. Cuevas, Cliney and Duckett will provide depth at guard. White will give depth at post. Dawn won't have the bench she's used to so the minutes will tighten.

I think we'll be a top 10ish team next year. We should score more.

Davis is going to excel in the SC offense. She is big, strong, can rebound and can shoot. She will be a more consistent scorer than Mitchell, IMO.

I think that SC is still top 4 next season. I actually think that you will be a better team with Gray and Davis. They have already had to carry teams at times and know how to be go-to players. Those two combined with Coates and Wilson are going to be incredible together.

 

[Zorro]

Very classy for Geno to air out the dirty laundry about her academics..guess he's trying to do damage control with this chronic transfer (especially two McD's in consecutive years) issue..

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