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Bourbon & Rye

Wild Turkey 8 year 101.

Wild Turkey recently started an age statement 101 for the first time since 1992.
It's widely assumed the standard Wild Turkey 101 is a blend of 6-8 year bourbons.

Got this pour at the Korean Air lounge awaiting my flight back to the states.
A tasty sip. Nothing crazy, no offensive. Just a solid sip and if you see it and the price is right, getting a bottle orr two is a good choice.
I'd happily accept it if a friend handed me a glass in their home.


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Beam is shutting down their main Clermont distillery for 2026 in response to consumer demand. Americans are drinking less and exports fell last year. They'll use the time to invest in "site enhancements". Beam's other distillery in Boston, Kentucky, will continue to operate.

Effect on employees TBD.

Story here.
 
Willett pot still reserve small batch. Mrs Diesel got this as a gift today from one of the people she trains at a gym.

Super smooth, and the bottle is gorgeous and an obvious conversation piece. Both Mrs Diesel and I agree the flavor profile isn't overpowering and is a solid choice to introduce someone newer to bourbons.


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AreBee1969 said:
Beam is shutting down their main Clermont distillery for 2026 in response to consumer demand. Americans are drinking less and exports fell last year. They'll use the time to invest in "site enhancements". Beam's other distillery in Boston, Kentucky, will continue to operate.

Effect on employees TBD.

Story here.
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I read about them shutting down. Just a gluttony of bourbon they have barreled and have no demand for bottling. Downstream effect will be some higher aged bourbon releases a few years from now.
 
AreBee1969 said:
Beam is shutting down their main Clermont distillery for 2026 in response to consumer demand. Americans are drinking less and exports fell last year. They'll use the time to invest in "site enhancements". Beam's other distillery in Boston, Kentucky, will continue to operate.

Effect on employees TBD.

Story here.
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It was bound to happen. The " boom " is over, and younger generations are using other substances to get a buzz that dont leave you ruined the next morning.
 
This semi click bait came across my social media feeds. From back in May but sheds some light on what bartenders like for their go to bourbon for a bar.


The Evan Williams Bottled in Bond intrigued me.

Kentucky Bartenders’ Favorite Workhorse Bourbons – Garden & Gun Kentucky Bartenders’ Favorite Workhorse Bourbons
 
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Chin Diesel said:
This semi click bait came across my social media feeds. From back in May but sheds some light on what bartenders like for their go to bourbon for a bar.


The Evan Williams Bottled in Bond intrigued me.

Kentucky Bartenders’ Favorite Workhorse Bourbons – Garden & Gun Kentucky Bartenders’ Favorite Workhorse Bourbons
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Evan Williams BiB is an excellent cheap workhorse. You can do a heck of a lot worse
 
pepband99 said:
Evan Williams BiB is an excellent cheap workhorse. You can do a heck of a lot worse
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A friend gave me a 1L bottle of Kirkland BiB from Costco. I think it's basically 1792, distilled by Barton. There's a lot of pretty serviceable stuff in that range. Almost nothing BiB will be bad.

@Chin Diesel The Green River Rye mentioned on that list was recommended by the woman doing the tasting at a distillery I went to down in Beaufort, SC. It's all cheap stuff and pretty decent.
 
HuskyHawk said:
A friend gave me a 1L bottle of Kirkland BiB from Costco. I think it's basically 1792, distilled by Barton. There's a lot of pretty serviceable stuff in that range. Almost nothing BiB will be bad.

@Chin Diesel The Green River Rye mentioned on that list was recommended by the woman doing the tasting at a distillery I went to down in Beaufort, SC. It's all cheap stuff and pretty decent.
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There is nothing about BiB that "guarantees" a bourbon will be anything better than the rest of a distillery's products. While BiB became a legal necessity long ago due to counterfeiting and sketchy practices, today it's really just a marketing moniker.
 
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CTFAN4LIFE said:
There is nothing about BiB that "guarantees" a bourbon will be anything better than the rest of a distillery's products. While BiB became a legal necessity long ago due to counterfeiting and sketchy practices, today it's really just a marketing moniker.
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Its still a legal practice that guarantees you get a min 4 year aged, 100 proof bourbon. Its still far more than marketing.
 
Deepelm said:
Its still a legal practice that guarantees you get a min 4 year aged, 100 proof bourbon. Its still far more than marketing.
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Yes, those attributes are true but my point is the bourbon can still be low-grade from a quality standpoint. :)
 
Chin Diesel said:
Wild Turkey 8 year 101.

Wild Turkey recently started an age statement 101 for the first time since 1992.
It's widely assumed the standard Wild Turkey 101 is a blend of 6-8 year bourbons.

Got this pour at the Korean Air lounge awaiting my flight back to the states.
A tasty sip. Nothing crazy, no offensive. Just a solid sip and if you see it and the price is right, getting a bottle orr two is a good choice.
I'd happily accept it if a friend handed me a glass in their home.


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I've got the 12 year old 101 from Japan. They've been selling it there for a long time. It's very nice stuff even if I paid too much (a guy on r/bourbon brought a whole case to California and shipped bottles to us from there). 8 year would be great if available Stateside.
 
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CTFAN4LIFE said:
There is nothing about BiB that "guarantees" a bourbon will be anything better than the rest of a distillery's products. While BiB became a legal necessity long ago due to counterfeiting and sketchy practices, today it's really just a marketing moniker.
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Disagree here. Most of the worst craft stuff I've had is aged in small barrels. BiB prevents that. Gives you 4 years in a full sized barrel in proper licensed rickhouse. Doesn't mean it will be good compared to something else from the same distillery (not one of Old Forester's better products for example) but it's hard for it to be "bad".
 
HuskyHawk said:
Disagree here. Most of the worst craft stuff I've had is aged in small barrels. BiB prevents that. Gives you 4 years in a full sized barrel in proper licensed rickhouse. Doesn't mean it will be good compared to something else from the same distillery (not one of Old Forester's better products for example) but it's hard for it to be "bad".
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Agreed that the larger houses tend to not make anything "bad", but as I'm in the industry and have been exposed to lots of "craft" whiskies there are lots that just don't pass muster. That all said, if you love something, then it's something loveable.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
Agreed that the larger houses tend to not make anything "bad", but as I'm in the industry and have been exposed to lots of "craft" whiskies there are lots that just don't pass muster. That all said, if you love something, then it's something loveable.
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I agree there is some bad craft stuff (and some excellent stuff). But none of it was BiB. I gave up on Mad River in Vermont. I can forgive it early on, but when you've been in business a decade cutting corners isn't excusable. Cleveland, Few and most Garrison stuff isn't well regarded.

Chattanooga is quite nice. Fiddler from Georgia is making excellent stuff and I like Ben Holladay from Missouri. Still Austin seems solid. Brands like Driftless Glen, High West, Breckinridge, Wilderness Trail, New Riff or Bardstown aren't really even craft at this point, they are so reliable. I do get annoyed by the pricing of some brands like 2XO. Why the hell is that stuff $100?
 
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