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HuskyHawk said:
A friend gave me a 1L bottle of Kirkland BiB from Costco. I think it's basically 1792, distilled by Barton. There's a lot of pretty serviceable stuff in that range. Almost nothing BiB will be bad.

@Chin Diesel The Green River Rye mentioned on that list was recommended by the woman doing the tasting at a distillery I went to down in Beaufort, SC. It's all cheap stuff and pretty decent.
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There is nothing about BiB that "guarantees" a bourbon will be anything better than the rest of a distillery's products. While BiB became a legal necessity long ago due to counterfeiting and sketchy practices, today it's really just a marketing moniker.
 
I’ve been sitting on this for about a year because it was the first bottle I saw in years and I haven’t seen one since.

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CTFAN4LIFE said:
There is nothing about BiB that "guarantees" a bourbon will be anything better than the rest of a distillery's products. While BiB became a legal necessity long ago due to counterfeiting and sketchy practices, today it's really just a marketing moniker.
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Its still a legal practice that guarantees you get a min 4 year aged, 100 proof bourbon. Its still far more than marketing.
 
Deepelm said:
Its still a legal practice that guarantees you get a min 4 year aged, 100 proof bourbon. Its still far more than marketing.
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Yes, those attributes are true but my point is the bourbon can still be low-grade from a quality standpoint. :)
 
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Chin Diesel said:
Wild Turkey 8 year 101.

Wild Turkey recently started an age statement 101 for the first time since 1992.
It's widely assumed the standard Wild Turkey 101 is a blend of 6-8 year bourbons.

Got this pour at the Korean Air lounge awaiting my flight back to the states.
A tasty sip. Nothing crazy, no offensive. Just a solid sip and if you see it and the price is right, getting a bottle orr two is a good choice.
I'd happily accept it if a friend handed me a glass in their home.


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I've got the 12 year old 101 from Japan. They've been selling it there for a long time. It's very nice stuff even if I paid too much (a guy on r/bourbon brought a whole case to California and shipped bottles to us from there). 8 year would be great if available Stateside.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
There is nothing about BiB that "guarantees" a bourbon will be anything better than the rest of a distillery's products. While BiB became a legal necessity long ago due to counterfeiting and sketchy practices, today it's really just a marketing moniker.
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Disagree here. Most of the worst craft stuff I've had is aged in small barrels. BiB prevents that. Gives you 4 years in a full sized barrel in proper licensed rickhouse. Doesn't mean it will be good compared to something else from the same distillery (not one of Old Forester's better products for example) but it's hard for it to be "bad".
 
HuskyHawk said:
Disagree here. Most of the worst craft stuff I've had is aged in small barrels. BiB prevents that. Gives you 4 years in a full sized barrel in proper licensed rickhouse. Doesn't mean it will be good compared to something else from the same distillery (not one of Old Forester's better products for example) but it's hard for it to be "bad".
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Agreed that the larger houses tend to not make anything "bad", but as I'm in the industry and have been exposed to lots of "craft" whiskies there are lots that just don't pass muster. That all said, if you love something, then it's something loveable.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
Agreed that the larger houses tend to not make anything "bad", but as I'm in the industry and have been exposed to lots of "craft" whiskies there are lots that just don't pass muster. That all said, if you love something, then it's something loveable.
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I agree there is some bad craft stuff (and some excellent stuff). But none of it was BiB. I gave up on Mad River in Vermont. I can forgive it early on, but when you've been in business a decade cutting corners isn't excusable. Cleveland, Few and most Garrison stuff isn't well regarded.

Chattanooga is quite nice. Fiddler from Georgia is making excellent stuff and I like Ben Holladay from Missouri. Still Austin seems solid. Brands like Driftless Glen, High West, Breckinridge, Wilderness Trail, New Riff or Bardstown aren't really even craft at this point, they are so reliable. I do get annoyed by the pricing of some brands like 2XO. Why the hell is that stuff $100?
 
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Grabbed this one at work for like $30 ( its a pint ). That second barrel adds a ton of sweetness to it. I probably wouldnt buy a full bottle but it was fun to try and have around for folks who may not want the full single malt experience.

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Deepelm said:
Grabbed this one at work for like $30 ( its a pint ). That second barrel adds a ton of sweetness to it. I probably wouldnt buy a full bottle but it was fun to try and have around for folks who may not want the full single malt experience.

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Good stuff, and an instant buy at that price, but there is a Scotch thread.
 
I grabbed this budget offering today. Had the bourbon now trying the rye.
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Anybody get one of the Jack Daniels Heritage barrels? I'm looking for one but haven't come across one yet.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Anybody get one of the Jack Daniels Heritage barrels? I'm looking for one but haven't come across one yet.
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Tried by not purchased. Its tasty stuff, worth a punt at the price. Look for some older dates, I think they are aged 7 years iirc but my buddy found an 8 year.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Anybody get one of the Jack Daniels Heritage barrels? I'm looking for one but haven't come across one yet.
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Snagged one at my local. Absolutely worth it in sniffing distance of MSRP.
 
pepband99 said:
Snagged one at my local. Absolutely worth it in sniffing distance of MSRP.
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I got one too. Very much a desert bourbon but I really like it. Became bitter with water though so I stick to neat.
 
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Deepelm said:
One of the best values in the game right now. A single barrel of tasty stuff for under $50
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With ice. After the first sip kicked my tongue in the buds, the following sips were succulent.
 
Deepelm said:
One of the best values in the game right now. A single barrel of tasty stuff for under $50
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These, including the new recipes, are $42 at my local. I don't even bother buying things like WT 101 anymore because these are so great at that price.
 
HuskyHawk said:
These, including the new recipes, are $42 at my local. I don't even bother buying things like WT 101 anymore because these are so great at that price.
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I'm trying to behave and buy less this year but these are always very tempting.
 
HuskyHawk said:
These, including the new recipes, are $42 at my local. I don't even bother buying things like WT 101 anymore because these are so great at that price.
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I am searching for the Wild Turkey 101 8 year which is worth the upcharge over the NAS WT 101.
 
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