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Just found this thread. Think the best recently for me are Calumet 16 which surprised me because i was underwhelmed by their youngers stuff and at $115 is reasonable, Rabbit Hole Sherry Finished is tasty, not nearly as good as WTMK Olroso, but tasty and i typically don’t love finished stuff. So i was super suprised i liked them both. There’s also Cooper’s Daughter aged in Black Walnut barrels

I’m actually as close to offloading some of my order bottles to auction than ever before - I’ll never get through them.
 
Northbound said:
Just found this thread. Think the best recently for me are Calumet 16 which surprised me because i was underwhelmed by their youngers stuff and at $115 is reasonable, Rabbit Hole Sherry Finished is tasty, not nearly as good as WTMK Olroso, but tasty and i typically don’t love finished stuff. So i was super suprised i liked them both. There’s also Cooper’s Daughter aged in Black Walnut barrels

I’m actually as close to offloading some of my order bottles to auction than ever before - I’ll never get through them.
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I just picked up a Calumet 16 in NH for $139, haven't popped it open yet but probably will this coming week.
 
Northbound said:
Just found this thread. Think the best recently for me are Calumet 16 which surprised me because i was underwhelmed by their youngers stuff and at $115 is reasonable, Rabbit Hole Sherry Finished is tasty, not nearly as good as WTMK Olroso, but tasty and i typically don’t love finished stuff. So i was super suprised i liked them both. There’s also Cooper’s Daughter aged in Black Walnut barrels

I’m actually as close to offloading some of my order bottles to auction than ever before - I’ll never get through them.
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Would love to hear what you’re selling and how it goes. I have a nice collection that I plan to hold a little longer but am always interested in understanding the best way to offload it
 
So I've got stuff from the mid-90's before all this became a thing - Sotheby's is probably the place for me - prices are all over the map - I've seen some stuff I have listed for $15K and then the same bottle $5K - the adage "it's worth what someone will pay for it" is never more true than in spirits.

Without looking I know I've got things like:

-Taylor Tornado Surviving
-Taylor BP's
-Original Black Maple Hill 21 and 16
-Plenty of PHC's
-A slew of old BTAC including the Hazmat stuff
-Old bottle style ECBP

I toss all the sleeves, I don't need them, but I know that collectors want them so that'll hurt the price a bit.

If I had someone to drink them with, I'd hold and drink them, but there's plenty of very good juice on the market and honestly, my palate isn't refined enough to pick out nuances - my reviews are usually - I like it, it's passable, or hard pass - so why not make some coin on some of the stuff I bought ages ago. The BTAC was bought at Riverside Red X in Parkville, MO in the late 90's early 00's, the Black Maple Hill was bought at Lanell's in Brooklyn in the mid 00's, the ECBP in Utica, NY like 12 years ago, etc. etc.

I think it would be the hardest to part with the old bottles of ECBP they are incredible to me.

I've been adamant about not selling, keep telling my wife I didn't buy to sell, I bought to drink, but maybe it's time.
 
Northbound said:
So I've got stuff from the mid-90's before all this became a thing - Sotheby's is probably the place for me - prices are all over the map - I've seen some stuff I have listed for $15K and then the same bottle $5K - the adage "it's worth what someone will pay for it" is never more true than in spirits.

Without looking I know I've got things like:

-Taylor Tornado Surviving
-Taylor BP's
-Original Black Maple Hill 21 and 16
-Plenty of PHC's
-A slew of old BTAC including the Hazmat stuff
-Old bottle style ECBP

I toss all the sleeves, I don't need them, but I know that collectors want them so that'll hurt the price a bit.

If I had someone to drink them with, I'd hold and drink them, but there's plenty of very good juice on the market and honestly, my palate isn't refined enough to pick out nuances - my reviews are usually - I like it, it's passable, or hard pass - so why not make some coin on some of the stuff I bought ages ago. The BTAC was bought at Riverside Red X in Parkville, MO in the late 90's early 00's, the Black Maple Hill was bought at Lanell's in Brooklyn in the mid 00's, the ECBP in Utica, NY like 12 years ago, etc. etc.

I think it would be the hardest to part with the old bottles of ECBP they are incredible to me.

I've been adamant about not selling, keep telling my wife I didn't buy to sell, I bought to drink, but maybe it's time.
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There is one bourbon I am always actively hunting or looking for, any Stagg batch. I live in a stupid control state, so my chances are basically nil.
 
Through miscommunication some of our friends got us two bottles of Elijah Craig. We were out of town and we got a message on a group text a local liquor store had these in stock. Mrs Diesel asked a friend to get us a bottle and two different people in the group text took her up on it.

Guess I have some work to do.

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As for rye’s a couple of very tasty ones to me

-Alberta Premium Select Barrel Proof - Canadian Rye is very good and really always has been
-Pikesville - As everyone knows a super tasty Maryland style rye
-Russell Reserve Single Barrel Rye - actually hard for me to find regularly
-Regular WT Rye is a very good cocktail rye
-WTMK Cornerstone Rye is a great sipper at 109 proof or whatever it is, BUT it does lack a bit in the spice department

One that people love and I don't is Angel's Envy Caribbean Rum Finished. It was just too sweet to me, ended up giving away the bottle after two glasses.

A side note a guy offered me $500 bucks for my empty bottle of Boss Hog first release - hard pass I'm not giving a guy a bottle to refill and screw someone on the secondary.
 
Northbound said:
As for rye’s a couple of very tasty ones to me

-Alberta Premium Select Barrel Proof - Canadian Rye is very good and really always has been
-Pikesville - As everyone knows a super tasty Maryland style rye
-Russell Reserve Single Barrel Rye - actually hard for me to find regularly
-Regular WT Rye is a very good cocktail rye
-WTMK Cornerstone Rye is a great sipper at 109 proof or whatever it is, BUT it does lack a bit in the spice department

One that people love and I don't is Angel's Envy Caribbean Rum Finished. It was just too sweet to me, ended up giving away the bottle after two glasses.

A side note a guy offered me $500 bucks for my empty bottle of Boss Hog first release - hard pass I'm not giving a guy a bottle to refill and screw someone on the secondary.
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I've been disappointed by my Alberta. Not as good as the WP10 store picks from Alberta. But it may be my batch. Not bad certainly but not worth what I paid.

The RRSiB Rye is awesome and hard to get. I need to remember to grab it when I can. Pikesville is solid. WT101 Rye is hard for me to find. I agree on the Angels Envy stuff, too sweet for me. Good on you with the Boss Hog bottle. Hate the counterfeiters.
 
Chin Diesel said:
Through miscommunication some of our friends got us two bottles of Elijah Craig. We were out of town and we got a message on a group text a local liquor store had these in stock. Mrs Diesel asked a friend to get us a bottle and two different people in the group text took her up on it.

Guess I have some work to do.

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Broke open the bottle on the left last night.

Taste is great. You obviously know this is uncut and 120+ proof but it doesn't burn and has an overall balanced flavor.

You're definitely slow sipping this but we enjoyed it with some good friends before dinner last night.
 
Had a chance a couple of night's ago to go to a Horse Soldier sipping event which included a 60 minute presentation by one of the guys who founded the brand.

Quick back story is these were the Green Berets who first went in to Afghanistan right after 9/11. They did a bunch of their work riding horses through the mountains. The Horse Soldier label is made from a mold made of steel from the Twin Towers.

For $75 you got to sample all three bottles, listen to the speech, est what looked like a decent buffet and an autographed bottle. We skipped the food line. Considering a bottle is about $50, it was a fair value.

Nothing spectacular about the straight bourbon. The barrel strength was decent too but I enjoyed the small batch the best.

They currently get the bourbon from Ohio but are in the process of building their own distillery in KY. Besides the distillery there's going to he a horse stable for veterans to go to ride horses and decompress.

barrelandbrew.co

Horse Soldier Bourbon - Barrel and Brew

Horse Soldier Bourbon gets a lot of attention, and it's not necessarily because it's a good bourbon. Now, it may be good and it may not, that's what we're
barrelandbrew.co barrelandbrew.co

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Chin Diesel said:
Had a chance a couple of night's ago to go to a Horse Soldier sipping event which included a 60 minute presentation by one of the guys who founded the brand.

Quick back story is these were the Green Berets who first went in to Afghanistan right after 9/11. They did a bunch of their work riding horses through the mountains. The Horse Soldier label is made from a mold made of steel from the Twin Towers.

For $75 you got to sample all three bottles, listen to the speech, est what looked like a decent buffet and an autographed bottle. We skipped the food line. Considering a bottle is about $50, it was a fair value.

Nothing spectacular about the straight bourbon. The barrel strength was decent too but I enjoyed the small batch the best.

They currently get the bourbon from Ohio but are in the process of building their own distillery in KY. Besides the distillery there's going to he a horse stable for veterans to go to ride horses and decompress.

barrelandbrew.co

Horse Soldier Bourbon - Barrel and Brew

Horse Soldier Bourbon gets a lot of attention, and it's not necessarily because it's a good bourbon. Now, it may be good and it may not, that's what we're
barrelandbrew.co barrelandbrew.co

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I thought they were associated with American Freedom Distillery in St. Petersburg FL. Do you know anything about that relationship?

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Anyone try the Old St. Nick's Immaculata bourbon? $269 seems steep for mystery juice.
 
HCCForever said:
I thought they were associated with American Freedom Distillery in St. Petersburg FL. Do you know anything about that relationship?

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They are American Freedom Distillery but the bourbon gets shipped from Ohio for now.

The St Pete place makes gin, rum and vodka.

Check out the link I posted which goes through the past, present and future.
 
HCCForever said:
I thought they were associated with American Freedom Distillery in St. Petersburg FL. Do you know anything about that relationship?

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Chin Diesel said:
They are American Freedom Distillery but the bourbon gets shipped from Ohio for now.

The St Pete place makes gin, rum and vodka.

Check out the link I posted which goes through the past, present and future.
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Yeah, I tried the small batch at Disney Springs (the Southern Food restaurant, which is quite good actually) and thought it was good. But without the bottle then I didn't know it was Ohio. Noticed that when it showed up in stores here.
 
Bought this today. It’s a wheater from Montana. All local grains I think. Tried it in store and it was good. Not amazing, but good.
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Chin Diesel said:
They are American Freedom Distillery but the bourbon gets shipped from Ohio for now.

The St Pete place makes gin, rum and vodka.

Check out the link I posted which goes through the past, present and future.
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Thank you. I worked at a liquor store on weekends for a little while and my favorite part of the job was talking bourbon. Horse Soldier was one brand of interest for a few and one vet told me some of the history.
 
I was in the DC area last week and one of the restaurants had a drink called a Wayback. It's a take on an Old Fashioned but key ingredient is something called switchel syrup.

I had to look it up and it's an old farmers drink to replenish fluids while working on the farm. Lots of New England roots in history of the drink.

Basically it's ginger, honey or molasses or maple syrup, and raw apple cider vinegar. Water to dilute as wanted. Plenty of variations.

The Haymaker had Basil Hayden, switchel syrup, ginger beer and a twist of orange.


I decided to make my own switchel syrup and will use it tomorrow afternoon for cocktails.

I used this recipe.

www.simplyrecipes.com

How to Make Ginger Switchel

Think of switchel as that refreshing summer drink you didn't know you needed—there's a reason farmers used to drink it after working in the fields all day. Made with fresh ginger, vinegar, water, and honey, it couldn't be simpler to make!
www.simplyrecipes.com www.simplyrecipes.com
 
Chin Diesel said:
I was in the DC area last week and one of the restaurants had a drink called a Wayback. It's a take on an Old Fashioned but key ingredient is something called switchel syrup.

I had to look it up and it's an old farmers drink to replenish fluids while working on the farm. Lots of New England roots in history of the drink.

Basically it's ginger, honey or molasses or maple syrup, and raw apple cider vinegar. Water to dilute as wanted. Plenty of variations.

The Haymaker had Basil Hayden, switchel syrup, ginger beer and a twist of orange.


I decided to make my own switchel syrup and will use it tomorrow afternoon for cocktails.

I used this recipe.

www.simplyrecipes.com

How to Make Ginger Switchel

Think of switchel as that refreshing summer drink you didn't know you needed—there's a reason farmers used to drink it after working in the fields all day. Made with fresh ginger, vinegar, water, and honey, it couldn't be simpler to make!
www.simplyrecipes.com www.simplyrecipes.com
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Drink was called a Wayback. Wayback and Haymaker were two of the other names for switchel.
 
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Could have posted this in Beer perhaps. It’s an American Single Malt, but it’s really a distilled beer. This is about the 5th version of it, each from a different beer in Vermont. This time, it’s the legendary Lawson’s Triple Sunshine. Only had a little It’s good but you need to be able to handle hops in a whiskey.

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Chin Diesel said:
Had a chance a couple of night's ago to go to a Horse Soldier sipping event which included a 60 minute presentation by one of the guys who founded the brand.

Quick back story is these were the Green Berets who first went in to Afghanistan right after 9/11. They did a bunch of their work riding horses through the mountains. The Horse Soldier label is made from a mold made of steel from the Twin Towers.

For $75 you got to sample all three bottles, listen to the speech, est what looked like a decent buffet and an autographed bottle. We skipped the food line. Considering a bottle is about $50, it was a fair value.

Nothing spectacular about the straight bourbon. The barrel strength was decent too but I enjoyed the small batch the best.

They currently get the bourbon from Ohio but are in the process of building their own distillery in KY. Besides the distillery there's going to he a horse stable for veterans to go to ride horses and decompress.

barrelandbrew.co

Horse Soldier Bourbon - Barrel and Brew

Horse Soldier Bourbon gets a lot of attention, and it's not necessarily because it's a good bourbon. Now, it may be good and it may not, that's what we're
barrelandbrew.co barrelandbrew.co

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During the COVID lockdown, the manager of the community's restaurant started a cocktail class. It became a regular thing happening every month. Manny, the manager of the restaurant, is also a bourbon afficianato. One of the classes he introduced Horse Soldier. It was an instant hit with many. He also introduced a couple of months late Heaven's Door. BTW, Manny was getting 50 to 60 people per class. Admission was $10.00.

Those two have become staples in my cabinet along with St. Augustine bourbon, distilled in Florida.

When my bourbon friends come over with their wives for a lanai party, we will polish off a bottle of one of the three.

Cheers.
 
I have a buddy coming in this weekend for a couple days of food, cigars and potent potables. In anticipation, I picked up a bottle of Penelope Barrell Strength Bourbon. I read some reviews and it gets a knock here and there for being young. Anybody tried this one?
 
AreBee1969 said:
I have a buddy coming in this weekend for a couple days of food, cigars and potent potables. In anticipation, I picked up a bottle of Penelope Barrell Strength Bourbon. I read some reviews and it gets a knock here and there for being young. Anybody tried this one?
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It's pretty good, sure it's young, but you know that going in. It seemed to have changed recently, not sure if that's acquisition related or not.
 
AreBee1969 said:
I have a buddy coming in this weekend for a couple days of food, cigars and potent potables. In anticipation, I picked up a bottle of Penelope Barrell Strength Bourbon. I read some reviews and it gets a knock here and there for being young. Anybody tried this one?
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It's ok. My complaint with some of what I see from them is more about price. These good but young products are often priced higher than good older products from the more established brands. It's the same story across the category. None of the new producer offerings are your best value option.
 
HuskyHawk said:
It's ok. My complaint with some of what I see from them is more about price. These good but young products are often priced higher than good older products from the more established brands. It's the same story across the category. None of the new producer offerings are your best value option.
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I noticed this trend with Scotch. I saw Ardbeg 5YO "Wee Beastie" is a couple bucks more than the 10YO.
 
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