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he is playing that’s the forgiveness. If Hurley wants to start in two more games he can. If he doesn’t it’s fine. You take out Gilbert you have no point Guard. You going to bench a senior in vital? Bench Polley or Akok? Theirs no obvious answer there. It might just be easier to leave him as sixth man chemistry wise.
The only switch would be Bouk for Polley. You're either going to have the best sixth man in the nation or a 6th man sniper shooter. Whether it's off the bench or starting Bouk needs to play most of the game and get the ball a ton.
 
I think the insurance policy is he knows the consequences because there were consequences for the first mistake. And those are bigger than a university violation. He had legal issues and these could become criminal issues.
I don’t believe you hold something over someone’s head as an insurance policy. The punishment is the insurance policy. I guess that just comes from 15 years of parenting - this last week I had my first real kid screw up (complete with Saturday detention). Literally impulsive teen behavior - asked to go to Peer Group during study hall but ran into a friend on the way and decided to go to the art room instead. She didn’t realize that was cutting class beforehand but got immediately why she was in trouble. Punished in school and at home. She completed both punishments yesterday and unless she pulls it again, we will never, ever talk about it again. The insurance policy isn’t the study hall teacher doesn’t give her passes to things during study hall. The insurance policy is she now knows it’s a problem and hopefully the punishment deters future bad behavior.
Bouk seems like a good guy who did a stupid thing. We all did stupid things as college freshmen. He just happens to be famous and play on a D1 team. Imagine that?
May not just be about Bouknight but a message to all players now and in the future. You are correct that it’s really up to Bouknight to learn from his mistakes and no coach can do anything that guarantees how a player behaves.

If Bouk is as nice a person you and I believe he is he’ll accept whatever approach Hurley utilizes.

It’s not like Bouknight is on the rack with this measured approach to his minutes although like Filtch I really miss the screaming.
 
Really? So there’s no forgiveness?
El Amin was caught with marijuana back when it was a big deal,
Not when he was a freshman. It was the off season after he won the NC. I don't think he got three games.
 
He shouldn’t start any of these games. Starting a freshman who’s been suspended is how you lose ur team. Hurley playing it the right way.
I think that's a big part of it. Hurley doesn't want to lose the older guards. He said something at the end of the first half that made me perk up. UConn finishes the 1st half on a 6-0 run on two beautiful plays by Bouk and Sid dropping a dime to Whalley (!). The lead triples in the last 2 minutes with the starters on the bench. Hurley is asked what impressed him the most in the first half and says, "Just the leadership from the older guys". That is some big-time coachspeak right there.
 
Who also takes bad 25 foot shots early in the shot clock and is the poster child for hero ball during crunch time. If I never saw CV or AG in the court again, I would be ok with that. They simply don't play winning basketball.
I'd rather we figure out why he regressed to "under Ollie" form over the off season. Last year, the 2nd half of the season, he didn't take those bad threes, and the change pushed his season average up to almost 41% from three, after a start not too much better than this year. His game today was a lot more under control, too.
 
Not when he was a freshman. It was the off season after he won the NC. I don't think he got three games.
I’m trying to remember when it happened - I think you’re right about right after. But it was an issue - and I think it jeopardized his draft chances. Or there was talk of it jeopardizing it. I don’t think he graduated so if he came back it would have been an issue.
But still criminal.
Not when he was a freshman. It was the off season after he won the NC. I don't think he got three games.
i had to look this up bc it was a big deal when it happened. I can’t find anything that says what his punishment was - but it did happen right after the NC. He still had another year to do with us, though. The following fall there was a ticket/car exchange scandal that was never proven but I’m thinking that’s more bc it was the late 1990s versus not being true.

I also found this list of all the players who had legal issues - some of these players I’d forgotten, some of these I went “oh, yeah, remember the laptops?”, and others are really disturbing like the ones where they were implicated in violent situations but seemed to get off. Some of these make driving without a license and hitting a pole look mild.

 
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Absolutely not. It was the most blatant open court charge I've seen in a long while.
Watch replay. Kid slid over last second. But refs will call it a charge every time if player continues straight.
 
I kno it sounds crazy, but why rush him into starting lineup? We re playing well right now. Why mess with a good thing? When he comes off bench, it’s great cuz if we re down he can give us a boost or if were up, he can help us extend lead. Plus, Polley Is playing well so don’t mess with it!!!! If Polley has a couple bad games, make the switch
 
He shouldn’t start any of these games. Starting a freshman who’s been suspended is how you lose ur team. Hurley playing it the right way. He works his way back. Maybe he’s sixth man for the year who knows but he’s going to play 25 plus minutes a game.

And the best part is, Dan Hurley is a good enough and smart enough coach to clarify all that with his players, I'm sure. I'm assuming Bouknight knows his status isn't contingent on starting right now. In fact, you could argue he's better for the team as instant O off of the bench. Then you add in his suspension, and I agree with you completely.
 
Technically Kemba came before Bazz, but regardless it's not a problem and certainly not a bad problem to have. Shouldn't the goal be to bring in superior athletes and basketball players year after year? Don't you want to bring in better talent than the program has ever seen? Kemba is a UConn legend. At the PG spot, I don't think anyone outshines him and I'm a Ricky Moore homer. Moore will always be my favorite husky.
Ricky's performance the national championship was the stuff of legend. We had a bit of slow start and he kept us in it in the first half. Talk about a guy in a zone he was literally saying "can't guard me" but he didn't need to. Everyone knew. Then in the second half his defense was lock down, especially on the final two plays. It was just an amazing performance.

That said, Kemba was otherworldly the last 11 games of the season. Bouk has a long way to go before he's talked about in that company. Off to a great start though.

(FWIW I like bringing Bouk as a change of pace sub. Calhoun used to talk about how your subs should make you better. After playing against our starters and burning up energy on both ends of the floor, having Bouk come in has got to be disheartening.)
 
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During the Xavier game Bouknight had a really nice drive and dish to Whaley where he did a little hesitation move at the top of the key to freeze the defender before blowing by him. I thought to myself at the time I know I’ve seen him do that move before. It just dawned on me that that was the move he and Springs were practicing in that random workout video on YouTube. Check the video @1:35
 
He shouldn’t start any of these games. Starting a freshman who’s been suspended is how you lose ur team. Hurley playing it the right way. He works his way back. Maybe he’s sixth man for the year who knows but he’s going to play 25 plus minutes a game.

He should start EVERY game if he is our best option at the 2 or 3. Continuing to punish him after he served his suspension makes no sense at all.
 
He shouldn’t start any of these games. Starting a freshman who’s been suspended is how you lose ur team. Hurley playing it the right way. He works his way back. Maybe he’s sixth man for the year who knows but he’s going to play 25 plus minutes a game.
Debates like these are dumb. Like you said, he's going to get burn. Hurley knows more about the team than us, so until he proves he can't coach, maybe we should chill on worrying about who starts a game.
 
Don’t want him to be that great that quick. Guys that are that great tend to get picked high in nba draft quickly
My thoughts exactly, it's the reason why Hurley will not start Bouknight until next year. If Bouknight has two or three 30 point games, he could be one and done, and Hurley is not dumb enough to allow that to happen. His defense also still leaves alot to be desired, needs work.
 
My thoughts exactly, it's the reason why Hurley will not start Bouknight until next year. If Bouknight has two or three 30 point games, he could be one and done, and Hurley is not dumb enough to allow that to happen. His defense also still leaves alot to be desired, needs work.
I don't think Dan Hurley would ever do that to a kid...You WANT kids leaving early if they are lottery picks....He is too much of a player's coach to ever put his own interest above a player's future IMO.

Polley is not as multi-dimensional a player as Bouk and needs a better supporting cast. On the first unit, he's our sniper. I think Bouk is better off the bench than Polley because he's a more complete player and can do more on his own. this makes the second team better and makes the team better overall.
 
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Debates like these are dumb. Like you said, he's going to get burn. Hurley knows more about the team than us, so until he proves he can't coach, maybe we should chill on worrying about who starts a game.
I see you’ve begun posting again. Must be finished with your project. :cool:
 
It's too bad Calhoun wasn't smart enough to bring Kemba off the bench his junior year; imagine how good we would've been with that instant offense coming out of the U16 timeout?!
 
I don't think Dan Hurley would ever do that to a kid...You WANT kids leaving early if they are lottery picks....He is too much of a player's coach to ever put his own interest above a player's future IMO.

Polley is not as multi-dimensional a player as Bouk and needs a better supporting cast. On the first unit, he's our sniper. I think Bouk is better off the bench than Polley because he's a more complete player and can do more on his own. this makes the second team better and makes the team better overall.
Coaches do that all the time, Boeheim did it for years, as did koach krap, and even Calhoun with certain players. Their mission is to win basketball games and Championships, and advise kids about getting their degree vs trying out for the NBA too soon, not to put kids in the NBA with no clue about what defense is and risk washing out, and ending up with nothing.
 
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During the Xavier game Bouknight had a really nice drive and dish to Whaley where he did a little hesitation move at the top of the key to freeze the defender before blowing by him. I thought to myself at the time I know I’ve seen him do that move before. It just dawned on me that that was the move he and Springs were practicing in that random workout video on YouTube. Check the video @1:35

Sure its just a workout but its astonishing how softly the ball seems to drop through the hoop when Bouknight shoots. So smooth
 
Starting is overrated, quality time is important

AG is our best PG, and I'm trusting coach to make those decisions anyhow

It's about minutes, some guys start for defensive purposes to set the tone. Once the game flow has been established, the in game substitutions take over.
 
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Coaches do that all the time, Boeheim did it for years, as did koach krap, and even Calhoun with certain players. Their mission is to win basketball games and Championships, not to put kids in the NBA with no clue about what defense is.

Who are the players Calhoun played less to keep them from being good enough for the NBA too soon?
 
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Ricky's performance the national championship was the stuff of legend. We had a bit of slow start and he kept us in it in the first half. Talk about a guy in a zone he was literally saying "can't guard me" but he didn't need to. Everyone knew. Then in the second half his defense was lock down, especially on the final two plays. It was just an amazing performance.

For those too young to have lived through the 99 season, Ricky Moore's D was not lock down in the second half of the championship game. It was lock down pretty much every minute of every game all year long. Still the best defensive performance over the course of a year that I've ever seen.

Up 1 and Duke having the ball for the last full possession, you could have banked the W the moment it was clear K's idea was to let Langdon try to take Ricky Moore one on one. If you had paid attention to the season, there was close to a zero chance that that was going to result in Langdon getting a good shot.
 
For those too young to have lived through the 99 season, Ricky Moore's D was not lock down in the second half of the championship game. It was lock down pretty much every minute of every game all year long. Still the best defensive performance over the course of a year that I've ever seen.

Up 1 and Duke having the ball for the last full possession, you could have banked the W the moment it was clear K's idea was to let Langdon try to take Ricky Moore one on one. If you had paid attention to the season, there was close to a zero chance that that was going to result in Langdon getting a good shot.
We were up three; and don't forget Rashamel gave a lot of pressure on that last possession, too.
 
We were up three; and don't forget Rashamel gave a lot of pressure on that last possession, too.

I'm almost positive he's talking about the possession where Duke had it and K had Langdon go at Moore one-on-one. The "TAKE HIM, TRAJAN!" moment.
 
I'm almost positive he's talking about the possession where Duke had it and K had Langdon go at Moore one-on-one. The "TAKE HIM, TRAJAN!" moment.

Thank you. I said last full possession. That's not having six seconds to go the length of the court needing a 3 to tie.
 
Thank you. I said last full possession. That's not having six seconds to go the length of the court needing a 3 to tie.
Ok, I understand what you mean now; I'm just not familiar with your concept of "full possession" in contrast to what you would consider having the ball with six seconds left. Is there a term for the latter? If so, at what point--and on what basis--does it become distinct from what you are referring to as "full possession"?
 
Doesn’t matter that much if he starts or is the first guy off the bench. He’ll Ray Allen was the first guy off the bench his first year. The important thing is that he plays many minutes and keeps out of trouble off the court.
 
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