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A deeper bench? Our second five would have been a top 25 team last year. You have to be careful not to believe the hype. I will be happy if Castle and another of the freshmen are solid contributors next year.
Can’t tell if you are serious or not. I hope you don’t really believe our second five would have been a top 25 team.
 
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You never quite know how it will all play out but, if Castle performs at all conference type level as a freshman, we are going to be very tough to handle. I think everyone is expecting that Clingan and Karaban could have all conference type seasons, but if we can get another starter to be that good as well, man, this team really could be special.
Clingan could have an all conference type season? I'm expecting Clingan to have a National Player of the Year contender season.
 

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Last years 6-10:
Clingan
Alleyne
Joey
Diarra
Samson ?

This season proj 6-10:
Samson/Singare
Stewart
Ross
Ball
Diarra

Im not necessarily disagreeing with you, but it's closer than you might think. We really only got any production from DC, Joey, and Alleyne last season, and they were always in alongside 3-4 of the starters from the NC team. They certainly looked better with Hawk, Adama, etc... drawing help defenders away from them, and Andre feeding them assists on the break.
Ok, now tell me about all the minutes played by that second list. We can call Samson and Diarra a wash. Aside from them, 2023-24 team, zero minutes played. 2022-23 team: four year player at San Diego, 2 year starter in the ACC who once scored 30 in an NCAA tournament game.

We don't have the veteran depth we had last year. Even the starters have less experience. It's a much younger team. That bench this year might be more "talented". It probably is.
 
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Ok, now tell me about all the minutes played by that second list. We can call Samson and Diarra a wash. Aside from them, 2023-24 team, zero minutes played. 2022-23 team: four year player at San Diego, 2 year starter in the ACC who once scored 30 in an NCAA tournament game.

We don't have the veteran depth we had last year. Even the starters have less experience. It's a much younger team. That bench this year might be more "talented". It probably is.
What do you mean by we can call Samson and Diarra a wash?

The veteran depth last season was Joey, Alleyne, and Diarra.

Joey shot 45% from three which I highly doubt we replace but Alleyne was pretty bad all season before bouncing back to make some plays tournament time. Diarra should be somewhat improved from last season. The youth off the bench will certainly be more talented than the veterans off the bench last season.

What we will be missing off the bench this season is Clingan and Joey. I really like Alleyne but we shouldn't have any problems replacing his production, we should actually be upgraded there. So I see it as one veteran bench player who will be really hard to replace.
 

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What do you mean by we can call Samson and Diarra a wash?

The veteran depth last season was Joey, Alleyne, and Diarra.

Joey shot 45% from three which I highly doubt we replace but Alleyne was pretty bad all season before bouncing back to make some plays tournament time. Diarra should be somewhat improved from last season. The youth off the bench will certainly be more talented than the veterans off the bench last season.

What we will be missing off the bench this season is Clingan and Joey. I really like Alleyne but we shouldn't have any problems replacing his production, we should actually be upgraded there. So I see it as one veteran bench player who will be really hard to replace.
Even Joey didn’t do much during conference play.

The high bar that guys will have to pass will really be how they perform during the postseason where everyone just went bonkers.

Hopefully they’re ready for that time and can give us more during the regular season. Especially conference play which will be difficult. Even Karaban had some struggles his first go around against teams.
 

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What do you mean by we can call Samson and Diarra a wash?

The veteran depth last season was Joey, Alleyne, and Diarra.

Joey shot 45% from three which I highly doubt we replace but Alleyne was pretty bad all season before bouncing back to make some plays tournament time. Diarra should be somewhat improved from last season. The youth off the bench will certainly be more talented than the veterans off the bench last season.

What we will be missing off the bench this season is Clingan and Joey. I really like Alleyne but we shouldn't have any problems replacing his production, we should actually be upgraded there. So I see it as one veteran bench player who will be really hard to replace.
Wash because they are on both teams. Should be much better next year of course. Johnson should easily be the most important bench player on the team.

Yes DC is the most obvious. Alleyne was good though. Clutch shooting and played terrific defense. The point is we had guys who had been there and done that and when it comes to March that matters. Nobody on the bench next year has performed in that situation. Maybe they step up, but as we saw with Purdue’s guards, it is risky to rely on it. I do think Ball is the guy I expect could really step up.
 
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Samson will be a major factor next year. Not a star of the team, but productive
Huge X factor on this year's team. Looking forward to a healthy, confident, more skilled Samson this year.
 
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Last years 6-10:
Clingan
Alleyne
Joey
Diarra
Samson ?

This season proj 6-10:
Samson/Singare
Stewart
Ross
Ball
Diarra

Im not necessarily disagreeing with you, but it's closer than you might think. We really only got any production from DC, Joey, and Alleyne last season, and they were always in alongside 3-4 of the starters from the NC team. They certainly looked better with Hawk, Adama, etc... drawing help defenders away from them, and Andre feeding them assists on the break.
Starting 5 is Newton, Karaban, Clingan, Castle and Spencer? Wish we had another Spencer coming in on the 2nd unit, kinda like Joey.
 
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Hate to dampen people’s confidence but we don’t know if DC can play 28 to 32 minutes a game.
I'm pretty sure Hurley wants to keep Clingan fresh and in that 26-28 mpg range. That may be why we're kicking the tires on another backup center, there's a good chance that Johnson and Singare aren't up to the task and we can't risk playing 1/3 of the game at a severe disadvantage.
 
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Do we want someone who is a good player or just a good shooter?
Not disputing that. The poster mentioned “somebody like Joey”. You are a veteran poster, have you seen the incoming freshmen play in person?
I have seen so many people believe the hype surrounding freshmen in the past that I have learned to take a wait and see approach.
 
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We do, Solomon Ball
I was actually thinking Ross would be the closest comp. He's a low usage spot up shooter. I dont think he's even a moderately similar player to joey, but if we're just talking bench shooting, then Ross is our guy. If he's ready to get minutes (if he knows his defensive rotations), he will also be a disruptive defender with his size/length.

Ball, imo, is a very different player.
 

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Not disputing that. The poster mentioned “somebody like Joey”. You are a veteran poster, have you seen the incoming freshmen play in person?
I have seen so many people believe the hype surrounding freshmen in the past that I have learned to take a wait and see approach.
I haven’t seen them play in person, but I think those with a worried perception of freshman come from the 2021 debacle.

Outside of that freshman usually do very well for us early. Especially as highly ranked as someone like Solo is. He might not have a similar game to Joey but I can see him being like Boatright.
 

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