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UC1995 said:
MAC won't take UConn Football only... that is why UMASS was kicked out. If they don't get the basketball than they will say see you later.
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I don't think it's a realistic option anyway, but if it made sense financially, the MAC would definitely consider taking a package deal of UConn/Cinci, or UConn/Temple.

The only reason the MAC forced UMass to go all in is because Temple left, leaving the number of FB schools at 13. Instead of reaching for a 14th to balance the schedule, they forced UMass to do something the MAC knew they wouldn't do. That got the schedule balanced back at 12.

UMass football program leaving MAC after 2015 season

If UConn had a partner, like Temple or Cinci, or Navy or ECU, the MAC would definitely consider FB only.
 
UConn Dan said:
If the AAC loses 2-4 teams not named UConn -- I think UConn should explore all options at that point, including football only in AAC and the rest in Big East. I think at that point anything is negotiable and part of the pitch you can make to the AAC is we'll play 4 AAC teams a year in men's and women's basketball (2 home and 2 away). I don't know -- this is all going sideways right now -- gotta figure out how to stay alive and relevant in both football and basketball -- gotta be creative until the P5 calls. I never thought split AAC/Big East was on the table, but I think we are coming to that point.
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I agree it needs to be examined. I disagree on how willing the AAC will be to let us take us space in their league without our marquee programs.
 
UCONN13KC said:
I was thinking in terms of there ultimately being 4 super conferences. If the Big 12 were serious about expanding, the ACC could swoop up UConn and Cincy and put another nail in the big 12 coffin. I know, not gonna happen.
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Because if there are ultimately 4 superconferences, then ND will be in one of them, and they are contractually obligated to join the ACC for the next 15+/- years. So that leaves space for 1 more.

Because if you take UConn/Cinci, and there are 4 super conferences, you just handed ND, OU, and Texas to the B1G, P12, and SEC so you could get UConn and Cinci. Nobody would do that
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
This would be a net positive result for UConn given what the circumstances would be in that situation. Presumably, if one or more of UC/UH leave and especially if BYU is left on the table, I would expect Aresco to offer them football-only status. Our basketball programs cannot survive in an AAC that has defections from the pool of UC, UH, and Memphis. Yes, the Big East isn't the best and there's some sour feelings with a few of the Catholic bball-onlies, but would you rather be playing Villanova, PC, Xavier, and Georgetown or Tulane, Tulsa, USF, and ECU? Aresco would be in no position to push back against us all that much in negotiations. Paying a modified "exit' fee in this scenario would be worth it. We could tread water playing basketball in the Big East, infuse a little bit of fan-interest life back into the conference schedule, and pray for an ACC/B1G invite. AAC football would still be moderately serviceable if they made smart decisions post-defection, AAC basketball would not and we'd risk our biggest promotional tool to other P5 conferences being washed down the drain.
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Do you think a modified exit fee well in excess of 100mm is worth it because at a minimum thats what it will cost. included would be Uconns portion of about 25mm left over from the old BE. Why would Fox renegotiate a deal with the BE for short money from Bball that might last for only a few years. Why would the NBE put itself through 5 more years of what its already experienced for the last 13. Its not going to happen.
 
Seems as though Fox owns the BE rights, all tiers.

So there actually wouldn't be any monetary gains from UConn moving when you take into account the football playoffs (and of course exit fees that UConn would need to pay).
 
upstater said:
Seems as though Fox owns the BE rights, all tiers.

So there actually wouldn't be any monetary gains from UConn moving when you take into account the football playoffs (and of course exit fees that UConn would need to pay).
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Would be interesting to see how you would factor Football into this since the BE does not sponsor football. UConn in the American under a new TV deal for FB might be able to shop their T3 Football rights to SNY and pick up some additional cash.
 
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The real issue for UConn is that the Big East is no better than the AAC with the exception that it brings nostalgia. The never ending issue is that the UConn athletic department to this day has many basketball people who think football was a mistake. There really is no great solution but I doubt going to the Big East for other sports and leaving football in the AAC is workable.
 
freescooter said:
The real issue for UConn is that the Big East is no better than the AAC with the exception that it brings nostalgia. The never ending issue is that the UConn athletic department to this day has many basketball people who think football was a mistake. There really is no great solution but I doubt going to the Big East for other sports and leaving football in the AAC is workable.
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Dude. Really? Name the last time a non-UConn team currently in The American got past the first weekend of the NCAA Tournament?

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2012 - Cincy.

Since 2010 Cornell has as more Sweet 16 appearances than 9 out of 11 teams currently in The American.
 
freescooter said:
The real issue for UConn is that the Big East is no better than the AAC with the exception that it brings nostalgia. The never ending issue is that the UConn athletic department to this day has many basketball people who think football was a mistake. There really is no great solution but I doubt going to the Big East for other sports and leaving football in the AAC is workable.
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BE has been seeded h much better than the AAC ever since UCONN has been in the AAC. AAC has been treated as a total mid-major with most teams seeded to go out by the first weekend. Meanwhile, BE has been seeded more like a power conference with # of teams and seeding #s. BE with Temple and UCONN would be much stronger as well.

If UCONN does not get into the B12, UCONN needs to find a home for FB only. Hopefully, its the AAC. This scenario certainly sucks, but at least it is somewhat within our control.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
BE has been seeded h much better than the AAC ever since UCONN has been in the AAC. AAC has been treated as a total mid-major with most teams seeded to go out by the first weekend. Meanwhile, BE has been seeded more like a power conference with # of teams and seeding #s. BE with Temple and UCONN would be much stronger as well.

If UCONN does not get into the B12, UCONN needs to find a home for FB only. Hopefully, its the AAC. This scenario certainly sucks, but at least it is somewhat within our control.
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I don't know about other on this board but if UConn ever got back into the BE in all sports but football I will have written my last donation check to the athletic department and bought my last ticket to ANY UConn sporting event! I will in no way shape or form support a athletic department that chose to go back to a conference made up of schools who A) leeched off of UConn basketball success for YEARS and B) Caused the BE to eventually break apart by doing A and trying to dictate to the schools that played football about how conference business was done.
 
freescooter said:
The real issue for UConn is that the Big East is no better than the AAC with the exception that it brings nostalgia. The never ending issue is that the UConn athletic department to this day has many basketball people who think football was a mistake. There really is no great solution but I doubt going to the Big East for other sports and leaving football in the AAC is workable.
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Big East basketball with the defending national champion and another school that nearly got a 1 seed is no better than the AAC?
 
FDNY99 said:
I don't know about other on this board but if UConn ever got back into the BE in all sports but football I will have written my last donation check to the athletic department and bought my last ticket to ANY UConn sporting event! I will in no way shape or form support a athletic department that chose to go back to a conference made up of schools who A) leeched off of UConn basketball success for YEARS and B) Caused the BE to eventually break apart by doing A and trying to dictate to the schools that played football about how conference business was done.
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Yawn. Let's keep holding grudges until were in the patriot league. That'll show everyone
 
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JMick said:
Yawn. Let's keep holding grudges until were in the patriot league. That'll show everyone
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Lets keep banging that drum about getting the Big East band back together! That train has left the station.
 
FDNY99 said:
Lets keep banging that drum about getting the Big East band back together! That train has left the station.
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No one wants to be in the Big east, but if the other option is an AAC without Cinci/Houston/Memphis staying is a fate worse than death for basketball.
 
freescooter said:
The real issue for UConn is that the Big East is no better than the AAC with the exception that it brings nostalgia.
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1) Most would say you're wrong about the Big East being no better today.
2) Take Cinci away and you're on an island making the argument the AAC is still better.

The sum of UConn, Temple, SMU (without Larry Brown) and Memphis is not a better conference than Villanova, Georgetown, Providence, Creighton, Butler, Marquette, and Xavier.
 
WingU-Conn said:
1) Most would say you're wrong about the Big East being no better today.
2) Take Cinci away and you're on an island making the argument the AAC is still better.

The sum of UConn, Temple, SMU (without Larry Brown) and Memphis is not a better conference than Villanova, Georgetown, Providence, Creighton, Butler, Marquette, and Xavier.
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And that's with UConn in it. Pull us out and add us to either slate and do the math over. The difference is more dramatic. I still think this is posturing or it wouldn't have been leaked to Blauds.
 
FDNY99 said:
Lets keep banging that drum about getting the Big East band back together! That train has left the station.
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It's not about getting the band back together, it's about finding a place where our bread and butter programs could at least tread water in the hopes of a future hail mary P5 invite, whereas an AAC minus one or more of UC, UH, and Memphis would be an abject disaster in basketball, and ruin our biggest argument for a P5 invite. Not to mention ticket sales would markedly increase for conference games against the bottom of the conference teams - Tulane/ECU/Tulsa becomes St. Johns/Seton Hall/Marquette - name recognition alone would be better. Not to mention the top of the Big East in Nova, Xavier, GT would easily outsell whatever the "top" of new AAC bb would be - Temple, maybe Memphis, and.... ???
 
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JeepCSC said:
Decoupling your football from the rest of your programs feels like the first step to shutting it down.
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I get that sentiment and whaler felt the same way as well, but I guess I don't see it that way.

Keep football and basketball in the best possible places available.
 
JeepCSC said:
Decoupling your football from the rest of your programs feels like the first step to shutting it down.
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It does, but basketball is our life blood. Everyone knows UConn because of basketball and it must be preserved. Staying in the AAC without Cincy is like shutting basketball down. Larry Brown is gone and SMU is going to slide. That leaves UConn, Temple and a shaky Memphis.
 
NYUConn said:
Would be interesting to see how you would factor Football into this since the BE does not sponsor football. UConn in the American under a new TV deal for FB might be able to shop their T3 Football rights to SNY and pick up some additional cash.
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If the AAC is going to give up 3rd tier rights, then UConn isn't moving.

The problem here is that both conferences gave 3rd tier rights away
 
Hoophound said:
It does, but basketball is our life blood. Everyone knows UConn because of basketball and it must be preserved. Staying in the AAC without Cincy is like shutting basketball down. Larry Brown is gone and SMU is going to slide. That leaves UConn, Temple and a shaky Memphis.
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I agree it is better to help the basketball program because it is the main card you all have. I just wish the madness would end soon, Texas and Ok go wherever they go, and the ACC feels secure enough to take UConn as #15.
 
Why would the Big East take UConn for everything except football? As long as we have G5 football the BE is going to say no. And they'll be consistent by doing so. Why take us if we'll be gone as soon as another conference might invite us? If we devalue football yes but I hope we don't do that anytime soon.
 
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freescooter said:
The never ending issue is that the UConn athletic department to this day has many basketball people who think football was a mistake.
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Yeah, well them. They are probably a big reason we're in this predicament, kept us from getting out in front of this thing.
 
The Funster said:
Why would the Big East take UConn for everything except football? As long as we have G5 football the BE is going to say no. And they'll be consistent by doing so. Why take us if we'll be gone as soon as another conference might invite us? If we devalue football yes but I hope we don't do that anytime soon.
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The Big East would take us in a heartbeat to renegotiate their TV deal.
 
The Funster said:
Why would the Big East take UConn for everything except football? As long as we have G5 football the BE is going to say no. And they'll be consistent by doing so. Why take us if we'll be gone as soon as another conference might invite us? If we devalue football yes but I hope we don't do that anytime soon.
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Nervousness about low ratings on Fox?
 
Forget the new Big East...not happening.
 
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