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Anyone else notice "Dollar" Bill pull a "Frank Underwood" with the double-knock on desk in front of Taylor?
 
Husky25 said:
Anyone else notice "Dollar" Bill pull a "Frank Underwood" with the double-knock on desk in front of Taylor?
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No but the actor who plays Dollar Bill also plays the minister on The Americans.
 
businesslawyer said:
But didn't he blow up his entire trust fund to do it? Sounds like a particularly draconian plot (or did I miss something).
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Kind of. Now if Rhodes wanted to be particularly nefarious and flirt with some serious legal trouble. he would tell a few of Axe's hedge fund "friends" that Axe had a huge short position on Ice Juice right around the time Axe's office is raided. Axe's trading desk would be locked down just as news broke that the poisoning was a scam and Ice Juice was filing a multi-billion claim against Axe Capital. There would be an epic short squeeze as the sharks ripped Axe to shreds.
 
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Husky25 said:
Anyone else notice "Dollar" Bill pull a "Frank Underwood" with the double-knock on desk in front of Taylor?
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Great call. Couldn't place it either.
 
I really enjoyed the finale and can't wait for the next season. Taylor might be my favorite character...except for dollar bill.
 
lavuuk153 said:
I really enjoyed the finale and can't wait for the next season. Taylor might be my favorite character...except for dollar bill.
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I wasn't sure about Taylor at first - but they really made it work. Having Dollar Bill show respect at the end was a bit of a surprise. Thought he was going to pout.
 
Ive loved the show but was scared of a formulaic season close with Chuck not able to bury Axe because of Wendy. Or there there being all kinds of "close but no cigar" issues on Chuck/Wendy reconciliation because of Ice Juice. I was pleasantly surprised at the twists. Surprised Chuck and Wendy ended up together. Surprised Axe went down. I like how Axes wife is turning into a real demon. (she should be because her character sucks anyway, might as well) and I LOVED the scene of Axe and Chuck together at the end.

Chuck taunting Axe with a snarky "Worth it" a couple times was .... well ....... worth it.

Great show. Really found its stride this season.
 
August_West said:
Ive loved the show but was scared of a formulaic season close with Chuck not able to bury Axe because of Wendy. Or there there being all kinds of "close but no cigar" issues on Chuck/Wendy reconciliation because of Ice Juice. I was pleasantly surprised at the twists. Surprised Chuck and Wendy ended up together. Surprised Axe went down. I like how Axes wife is turning into a real demon. (she should be because her character sucks anyway, might as well) and I LOVED the scene of Axe and Chuck together at the end.

Chuck taunting Axe with a snarky "Worth it" a couple times was .... well .. worth it.

Great show. Really found its stride this season.
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I didn't get the payoff I was looking for when Chuck finds out Wendy crushed an Ice Juice trade. Guess I'll have to wait.
 
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intlzncster said:
I didn't get the payoff I was looking for when Chuck finds out Wendy crushed an Ice Juice trade. Guess I'll have to wait.
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Well, this is where Chuck's written agreement with the Nerd Boy isn't so ironclad. I bet that it doesn't cover his wife and when she is implicated he will go after her.
 
August_West said:
Ive loved the show but was scared of a formulaic season close with Chuck not able to bury Axe because of Wendy. Or there there being all kinds of "close but no cigar" issues on Chuck/Wendy reconciliation because of Ice Juice. I was pleasantly surprised at the twists. Surprised Chuck and Wendy ended up together. Surprised Axe went down. I like how Axes wife is turning into a real demon. (she should be because her character sucks anyway, might as well) and I LOVED the scene of Axe and Chuck together at the end.

Chuck taunting Axe with a snarky "Worth it" a couple times was .... well .. worth it.

Great show. Really found its stride this season.
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It's funny I really don't like Axe's wife, just something about her and playing the character she is that I hate. Not sure if I hate it because she's really good or because I just don't like her in that role? I guess ultimately that's a good thing right - although I'm clueless on so many things make it's not the show itself? :eek:
 
Season 3 jump-start to thread.
1. Mau is right, happy to see Axe separated, the actress is bad not good at making the character unlikable. She is on there for T&A so any plot that doesn't have her doing that is a waste.
2. Zoo on the money about Chuck's wife so they immediately got to it!
3. Sad to see my hometown of Westport cut from the plot, but they belong in Manhattan. Cooincidentally same thing happened I think in season 3 as well to my wife's hometown of Ossining in Madmen.
4. Episode #1 of season 3 was dynamite. Show is what it is now. Over the top but not too far to be camp dramatization of big swinging ducks talking and walking the walk.
5. I loved the Taylor stock pick and Chuck's Egg Cream conversation with his burnt Ice Juice buddy.
6. The AG!! Bad Boys is not a movie series with Martin Lawrence, its this
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This show is incredibly well researched. I assumed Taylor was having a meltdown when they were smashing devices on the floor. Good pivot.

Taylor is just awesome. Even when making mistakes, Taylor is several steps ahead. It is cool how Wags has slid into the same role with Taylor that he had with Axe.

Axe's wife is annoying and was never really credible as the wife of a hedge fund titan. In real life, Axe would have upgraded her when his fund hit $100 million of assets, i.e. a long time ago.

I like Jack Foley, the David Straithairn character. That is who Axe wants to be. I hope Axe and Foley get into it this season.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
This show is incredibly well researched. I assumed Taylor was having a meltdown when they were smashing devices on the floor. Good pivot.

Taylor is just awesome. Even when making mistakes, Taylor is several steps ahead. It is cool how Wags has slid into the same role with Taylor that he had with Axe.

Axe's wife is annoying and was never really credible as the wife of a hedge fund titan. In real life, Axe would have upgraded her when his fund hit $100 million of assets, i.e. a long time ago.

I like Jack Foley, the David Straithairn character. That is who Axe wants to be. I hope Axe and Foley get into it this season.
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Agree on the wife just not a good character. The personal beat down of the mom at the Little league game was so ridiculous.

Have you seen Straithairn on McMafia?
 
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Show is absolutely getting better, its found a rhythm & niche and now they are adding characters (Jock Jeffcoat!) that can play in their awesome sandbox. Gotta hope the divorce being finalized means we are done with Malin Ackerman and they start providing a soft parade of Axe bimbos.

This week's episode was pretty rough on Chuck & Axe is seemingly making all the right moves notwithstanding that such moves are flagrantly flaunting the law*. I'm a bit suspicious that they are setting us up with lots of Axe love and Chuck comeuppance only to flip the table halfway thru this season. In contrast Wags is in such a groove right now that I think they are having a blast making him a continual badmfer. Banned from little league last week and this week tries a 'quant' backdoor power-play yet doesn't miss a beat in fessing up and moving on.

*Speaking of which, how can he buy $30MM of Ira's Ice Juice stock if he's not allowed to trade?
 
Dogdeacon said:
Show is absolutely getting better, its found a rhythm & niche and now they are adding characters (Jock Jeffcoat!) that can play in their awesome sandbox. Gotta hope the divorce being finalized means we are done with Malin Ackerman and they start providing a soft parade of Axe bimbos.

This week's episode was pretty rough on Chuck & Axe is seemingly making all the right moves notwithstanding that such moves are flagrantly flaunting the law*. I'm a bit suspicious that they are setting us up with lots of Axe love and Chuck comeuppance only to flip the table halfway thru this season. In contrast Wags is in such a groove right now that I think they are having a blast making him a continual badmfer. Banned from little league last week and this week tries a 'quant' backdoor power-play yet doesn't miss a beat in fessing up and moving on.

*Speaking of which, how can he buy $30MM of Ira's Ice Juice stock if he's not allowed to trade?
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The Wags quant backdoor was very good. Someone must have tried that in real life. I know a guy that produced in Hollywood in the 2000's that told me that half the Entourage plots were based on real-life.

Axe's wheels are coming off a little bit. He is getting so reckless that the show needs to be careful or his character will stop being credible.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
The Wags quant backdoor was very good. Someone must have tried that in real life. I know a guy that produced in Hollywood in the 2000's that told me that half the Entourage plots were based on real-life.
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Great point, they should have showed Wags coaching that candidate into the backdoor. It was fitting that Taylor figured it out at same time as us, but;
Cooler if we knew Wags was trying to run the backdoor strategy (make us think it'll work, Maphee et all celebrate)
Cooler & more heroic (note not hero or heroine ;) for Taylor if we thought it would get past 'them' and
We would have knowingly seen the candidate more shocked that despite following the playbook of the CFO he gets bounced by the COO.
 
We are going down a road where Chuck and Axe are going to become allies. I don't know if I like that.

Taylor is one of the more interesting characters on television. The writers constantly surprise us with Taylor, but it never seems forced or contrived.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
We are going down a road where Chuck and Axe are going to become allies. I don't know if I like that.

Taylor is one of the more interesting characters on television. The writers constantly surprise us with Taylor, but it never seems forced or contrived.
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They gotta do something, the central conceit can't be Chuck vs. Axe forever. Maybe it is good (ethical behavior) vs evil (blind pursuit of wealth & power)?

I agree that especially with the end of previous epi & this one Taylor is evolving into a 3-dimensional character. Interestingly Taylor is on the bad team yet on the side of good.

Connaghty is tiresome, they're making us hate him via his failed grudges whereas Axe & Chuck are revered for theirs'. Is this pointing out that Chuck is loathsome or that he's admirable b/c his Machiavellian plays work?

Back to the original point, Wendy in the middle has run its course (they've copped to that) and we need some closure to the Chuck v Axe situation with room for what's the bigger picture. They've successfully jettisoned Lara, hopefully can pull off bigger trick with Chuck and Axe showdown morphing into one battle within a larger war.
 
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I definitely want to see Chuck and Axe as Allies against the government. The government are almost always the true evil.
 
In a sense, I don't think it is good/evil. I think it is an overall commentary on the fact that the system is a mess, and in order to be successful you have to be willing to bend the rules (on either side).
 
J187Money said:
In a sense, I don't think it is good/evil. I think it is an overall commentary on the fact that the system is a mess, and in order to be successful you have to be willing to bend the rules (on either side).
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Whoa look at JMoney with the big brain ;)
 
[SPOILER ALERT]
As speculated here Wendy thru direct acts of her own (loyalty, her trade made out of respect for Axe and to protect $ for Chuck, and of course final no options move) brings Axe and Chuck together.
A. Will we see what they propose to do - or will it be a caper we get to see play out? (pulling for latter)
B. Chuck seems willing to let Axe walk via his end of episode actions, can he stomach a plan to avoid mutual destruction via mutual vindication?
C. I don't buy Axe going to jail for Wendy, we've seen him be loyal but not at the expense of self. If Axe was sacrificing b/c he was caught via the evidence = he's got to be a little grateful to Chuck for removing that, but now why would he still risk prison? Axe can walk and let Chuck fall for Wendy's transgressions like Connety offered.
D. I would however buy Axe staying on team Chuck - Wendy simply for the thrill of victory and beating the law especially with the flip of #1 lawman (Axe's ego tells him he's so good Chuck flipped convinced that Axe's side is only way to win).
 
Dogdeacon said:
[SPOILER ALERT]
As speculated here Wendy thru direct acts of her own (loyalty, her trade made out of respect for Axe and to protect $ for Chuck, and of course final no options move) brings Axe and Chuck together.
A. Will we see what they propose to do - or will it be a caper we get to see play out? (pulling for latter)
B. Chuck seems willing to let Axe walk via his end of episode actions, can he stomach a plan to avoid mutual destruction via mutual vindication?
C. I don't buy Axe going to jail for Wendy, we've seen him be loyal but not at the expense of self. If Axe was sacrificing b/c he was caught via the evidence = he's got to be a little grateful to Chuck for removing that, but now why would he still risk prison? Axe can walk and let Chuck fall for Wendy's transgressions like Connety offered.
D. I would however buy Axe staying on team Chuck - Wendy simply for the thrill of victory and beating the law especially with the flip of #1 lawman (Axe's ego tells him he's so good Chuck flipped convinced that Axe's side is only way to win).
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What are the odds of a really awkward Chuck, Wendy and Axe Threesome? We already had to see Taylor with no clothes on. Will it get worse?
 
I didn't get why Chuck was torn about handing the slide over to Axe. He had no other play.
 
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