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mikedog10 said:
Liberty doesn’t count. Besides, Marc D’Amelio is a better NIL ambassador than Jerry Falwell.
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Liberty counts in so many ways. Period.
 
superjohn said:
Incredibly easy schedule.
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I think it is a “typical” G 5 schedule for 8 games. Then it is above average for 4. Rare to see a G5 team play 4 P4 teams. Add that we play 3 on the road and it will be a challenge. The positive is we have no Michigan/Clemson/Ohio State type opponent. Some people like us to play those games but I much prefer competitive ones. Getting beat 55-7 with the 3s playing in the 3rd quarter is not beneficial. It would be helpful if at least 1 of Maryland, Duke, Wake Forest or Syracuse had a bad year, too.
 
AD DB Burner said:
Even with the 247 ding, the portal class is currently ranked 70th according to their rankings. UConn slots in at 12th among G5 teams.

Rumors on Storrs Central indicate there are two more players expected to commit as well.
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Look forward to hearing about the next two! !!!
 
Patman said:
Don't compare against CMU. Compare against Boise and Memphis
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This post at a Minnesota message board shows the top NIL teams in the P4, along with the top G5 teams. Also, for what it's worth, I did mention Boise in the post you quoted if you read the whole thing.

P5 NIL Team Rankings + G5 notables

P5 NIL Team Rankings (from on3): 1 - Texas $19.9 mil 2 - Alabama $16 mil 3 - tOSU 13.6 mil 4 - USC 13.5 mil 5 - Georgia 13.4 mil 6 - Colorado 12.3 mil 7 - Michigan 11.6 mil 8 - Oregon 11.6 mil 9 - Tennessee 11.6 mil 10 - Florida State 10.2 mil 11 - LSU 10.1 mil 12 - Penn State 9.9 mil 13 -...
gopherhole.com gopherhole.com

That poster's G5 valuations based on on3:

G5 NIL Notables:
AAC: SMU 2.1 mil, Tulane 1.5 mil
C-USA: Western Kentucky 1.1 mil
MAC: Toledo 2.5 mil, Western Michigan 1.2 mil
MW: Biose State 2 mil
SBC: James Madison 1.9 mil, App State 1.4 mil

They have said on Storrs Central that we made about a 900% increase in NIL from last year to this year. I find it hard to believe we can't be right with, or above, all of the teams listed. I would be very surprised to hear our football team isn't at or above the teams listed, especially considering the QB they just brought in. I've looked on on3's website and can't seem to find UConn football's player valuations. I may just not know where to go.
 
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DMTCYNAW said:
Respectfully - liberty counts. politics aside, they are doing their "football development" right and are on the way up. you don't need to agree with their values to acknowledge that wins don't lie. Yeah yeah, C-USA, etc. etc. - I know.
Let us not be too proud in our worldview, to refuse good examples of indep/G5 football management when we see it.

bottom line - They are getting G5 anddd P4 wins, keep hiring the right coaches even after guys leave* (uconn take note) , and spending money on their program, to attract NFL caliber players. They are consistently represented in the draft now. That will move the needle for your newest recruit who's also weighing an offer to a mid-tier P4 school (pitt/wake/kansas/WVU).

there is something to be learned about what Liberty is doing (see * above).
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Weren't Cincinnati and Ville conference USA not that long ago?
 
Forte said:
Weren't Cincinnati and Ville conference USA not that long ago?
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It was 19 years ago (2004-05 was their final year; they joined the Big East with USF, Marquette & DePaul for the 2005-06 school year).
 
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freescooter said:
I think it is a “typical” G 5 schedule for 8 games. Then it is above average for 4. Rare to see a G5 team play 4 P4 teams. Add that we play 3 on the road and it will be a challenge. The positive is we have no Michigan/Clemson/Ohio State type opponent. Some people like us to play those games but I much prefer competitive ones. Getting beat 55-7 with the 3s playing in the 3rd quarter is not beneficial. It would be helpful if at least 1 of Maryland, Duke, Wake Forest or Syracuse had a bad year, too.
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We average 4 P4 games a year.
 
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ShakyTheMohel said:
coaches who can’t evolve…”they’ve got issues”
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When I was a kid (far too many years ago) there was a very popular expression: "there's more than one way to skin a cat".

Not sure where it came from but it basically illustrates that you can do things different ways and still reach your goal.

One major issue with RE was that he only saw one path to getting to the level we wanted. It did work his first time here but when he replaced Diaco we were in no position to strip it down to the surface so to speak and then start building. Unfortunately that was the only way RE knew and it set us back even further
 
freescooter said:
Yes. Which no other G5 does. Makes winning more than 8 a huge challenge.
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P4 Football is where we aspire to be. Rutgers, Vanderbilt and Syracuse have to play 9 or 10 P4 games a year. I think 4 is the perfect number for us at this time. 6-7 wins next year with one a P4 upset would be good progress.

Schedule differentiates us from other P4’s. How soon can we average 8 W’s for 3 years running? Would it move the needle in time to make a difference?
 
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As of today it looks like we’ve gotten commitments from 11.2% of the 2024 kids we reached out to. Unsure how that compares to other schools.
 
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i take it as this is part of our last stand to get into the P4 this decade... maybe ever. I suspect the table is set for an invite, from SOMEONE at the big table. They want our basketball but even with the back2back on the boys side, the revenue splits/financials just don't work out to invite us if our football brings nothing to the table.

I would not be surprised if below the table, AD.DB/HCJM have been given clear outlines of what a P4 needs to see out of us, in order to clear the way with member university presidents. I won't pretend to know specifics, but a bowl-worthy season has to be the minimum floor, i'd imagine. That, and assuming our m/w basketball stay elite, and i could see a clear path to an invite.

OR i'm full of horse manure and i'm filling you up with fools hope.
The fearful pessimist in me wonders if, like in the last few seconds sprint in a cycling workout, we're going all-out right now knowing full well that the runway to sustain this spending is super short - and if we miss again on the invite, that's officially curtains on the UConn FBS experiment.
I would think UConn would prefer to just long-term park football in the CAA, move our facilities to a basement somewhere, Fundraise via bake sales, and ignore us forever, before putting all sports in the MAC or SBC/CUSA for our sake.
 
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If that were the case, I'd have expected them to go out and make a big OC hire and have let Charlton go earlier. I don't say that as a criticism or lack of faith in Sammis. I've liked everything he's said so far and seems like a sharp guy and I'm excited to see what the offense does this season, but if this is really the Alamo.. then I think going with a first time OC that for all intents and purposes deserves this opportunity and has earned it isn't necessarily a "get us in a conference now" move.
 
Hamms30 said:
If that were the case, I'd have expected them to go out and make a big OC hire and have let Charlton go earlier. I don't say that as a criticism or lack of faith in Sammis. I've liked everything he's said so far and seems like a sharp guy and I'm excited to see what the offense does this season, but if this is really the Alamo.. then I think going with a first time OC that for all intents and purposes deserves this opportunity and has earned it isn't necessarily a "get us in a conference now" move.
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Disagree on the Sammis hire. Mora is an old experienced hand. He didn’t take this job to fail. It’s may be our last stand, I’m sure it’s his. His hire of Sammis is one of belief, and trust. Yes, a leap of faith too, but he saw what he wants.
#SomethingsDifferent
 
Hamms30 said:
If that were the case, I'd have expected them to go out and make a big OC hire and have let Charlton go earlier. I don't say that as a criticism or lack of faith in Sammis. I've liked everything he's said so far and seems like a sharp guy and I'm excited to see what the offense does this season, but if this is really the Alamo.. then I think going with a first time OC that for all intents and purposes deserves this opportunity and has earned it isn't necessarily a "get us in a conference now" move.
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Not like the Alamo, like Guadalcanal or D Day.
 
Hamms30 said:
If that were the case, I'd have expected them to go out and make a big OC hire and have let Charlton go earlier. I don't say that as a criticism or lack of faith in Sammis. I've liked everything he's said so far and seems like a sharp guy and I'm excited to see what the offense does this season, but if this is really the Alamo.. then I think going with a first time OC that for all intents and purposes deserves this opportunity and has earned it isn't necessarily a "get us in a conference now" move.
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fair, but there's only so much money. I would venture to say it still gives "alamo" vibes even without the OC hire - perhaps we can't get the splashy OC hire and keep NIL money up. If i were HCJM, do i spend the thin money on another coach? or on some PLAYERS who can actually play at this level? No OC was going to pull off the miracle we need, with recruits who otherwise only got offered by Monmouth, Wagner, and Akron. HCJM essentally said something to this effect in that epic speech about needing more money and stop crying if you're not sending money. So i'll take Sammis + some Dawgs all day - humbly i believe it puts us way closer to keeping up with Big12 / ACC schools, than a skilled position coach would
 
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