Big Ten payout in '17/'18....$44.5M

[kyleslamb]

Do you guys have such low self esteem and little self worth that your entire identity is built around the perception of a school you might have gone to?

Seriously if you went to Michigan that doesn't make you better than someone who went to Michigan State no matter how many times you post it on message boards.

That you waste so much of your valuable time debating the academic value of athletic conferences where the actual 'student-athletes' are mostly admitted on their ability to play sports is pretty hilarous if you think about it.

Ooooh we are the Big 10 - you have to be a reseach university for your basketball players to play against our basketball players - even though even at frigging Northwestern the coaches tell you not to waste valuable time on a roadtrip actually studying.

Virginia can't hold their nose to play a school in football that isn't in the top 50 in some bogus ranking - but North Carolina's teams are made up of functional illiterates.

Yet half the threads on this board devolve into academic pi**ing matches between people who if they were really as high minded as they would have you believe should really have better things to do.

What you say has a ton of merit, but it's not just this board. It''s about every board and every fanbase. Heck, it isn't just limited to athletics... there is a snobby culture out there where people thump their chests about the perception of their university because of what ultimately centers around how selective the admissions are.

I will never understand why sports fans feel the need to worry so much about academic ranking(s) but I also don't understand why so much debate is spent on the subjective rankings in any capacity.

 

[Seaa Blue]

if you went to Michigan that doesn't make you better than someone who went to Michigan State no matter how many times you post it on message boards..

If you are using this as a specific example from this thread...

There's a back story to "little brother" when it comes to Michigan and Michigan State, and we generally accept their apt reply that we are their "Big Sister". They've kicked our ass in football and we've returned the favor in basketball. I've don't think I've ever belittled Michigan State except when having some fun with them.

 

[btstimpy]

Well NDSU has accomplished more as a football team than UVA ever has, so maybe you have something there. That said I would rather The Cavs join The B1G someday just for the gut wrenching discomfort it will cause you.

UVA is not coming. Virginia Tech is not coming either. But NDSU has build a football juggernaut at the FCS level. Bring them up to FBS and give them a try.

 

[whaler11]

There's a back story to "little brother" when it comes to Michigan and Michigan State, and we generally accept their apt reply that we are their "Big Sister". They've kicked our ass in football and we've returned the favor in basketball. I've don't think I've ever belittled Michigan State except when having some fun with them.

What would ever make you think people taking about realignment on a UConn board care about the relationship between Michigan and Michigan State?

Do you think we are dimwitted and don't understand the relationship between the two schools?

I think the funniest thing I ever read on the Boneyard was that every college student goes to the school with the best academic reputation that they can get accepted to. That is pure unadulterated lunacy.

 

[NotreDameJoe]

I was trying to imply that Michigan State and FSU were both "little brothers".

"SkunkBear", "MeatChicken". . .it's obvious that Notre Dame fans are completely infatuated with Michigan. A rivalry like this is wasted on internet boards. You should just get a room and join the conference. UConn will be your 16th and best man at the ceremony.

You've got a point, MSU actually wins Rose Bowls, they're a BUG strayed from the hive.

 

[upstater]

Your point regarding "announced attendance versus actual attendance" is quite valid. Posting a picture of a game versus B-CU as representative of typical Miami attendance is absurd. All of the Miami attendance issues discussed here are well-documented and long-standing.

I agree. It really is understandable that Miami fans would have little to no interest in watching a game against Boston College University. It's about as exciting as watching a game against a SWAC team.

 

[Ldandy]

UVA is not coming. Virginia Teach is not coming either. But NDSU has build a football juggernaut at the FCS level. Bring them up to FBS and give them a try.

I'll wait for UVA thanks.

 

[Seaa Blue]

What would ever make you think people taking about realignment on a UConn board care about the relationship between Michigan and Michigan State.

The Dantonio - Mike Hart story is on the Big Ten entrance exam.

 

[MSNDfan]

You've got a point, MSU actually wins Rose Bowls, they're a BUG strayed from the hive.

Michigan State was not contaminated by the BUG until the 1950s. That and the ties to us have saved the Spartans from becoming nearly as revolting as most of the rest.

 

[MSNDfan]

I'll wait for UVA thanks.

The fact that the BeeOneGee could take Rutgers, which historically is among the very small group of worst performing athletics departments in D1, and Maryland, which fiscally makes the Rutgers athletics department seem like a haven for geniuses, has deluded you into thinking everybody is dying to get BUGged. UVA has a very wealthy and healthy athletics department. That combined with the fact that UVA strongly prefers a conference like the ACC, primarily southern schools with many private schools and some smaller state universities, means the BUG really should turn to KU or settle for 14 or maybe make a play for Buffalo.

Buffalo and UConn would sew up the northeast for the mighty unpronounceable 2nd letter/1st number/7th letter and make it the envy of college football and sports generally.

 

[upstater]

The fact that the BeeOneGee could take Rutgers, which historically is among the very small group of worst performing athletics departments in D1, and Maryland, which fiscally makes the Rutgers athletics department seem like a haven for geniuses, has deluded you into thinking everybody is dying to get BUGged. UVA has a very wealthy and healthy athletics department. That combined with the fact that UVA strongly prefers a conference like the ACC, primarily southern schools with many private schools and some smaller state universities, means the BUG really should turn to KU or settle for 14 or maybe make a play for Buffalo.

Buffalo and UConn would sew up the northeast for the mighty unpronounceable 2nd letter/1st number/7th letter and make it the envy of college football and sports generally.

33-30
November 9, 2009

 

[Pat125]

Blah blah blah ... BeeOneGee ...blah blah blah ... BUGged .... blah blah ...BUG ... blah blah blah ... mighty unpronounceable 2nd letter/1st number/7th letter ... blah blah blah

You're pretty hung up on this. Interesting.

 

[UConnDan97]

33-30
November 9, 2009

 

[NotreDameJoe]

The BUG is the French Army of college football and should be swatted at every opportunity.

 

[Pat125]

The BUG is the French Army of college football and should be swatted at every opportunity.

Oh, you're hung up on it too. Okay.

 

[NotreDameJoe]

Oh, you're hung up on it too. Okay.

And Huskies and learning to do it with the ACC. Just wait until you have a century or more of character attacks.

 

[btstimpy]

The fact that the BeeOneGee could take Rutgers, which historically is among the very small group of worst performing athletics departments in D1, and Maryland, which fiscally makes the Rutgers athletics department seem like a haven for geniuses, has deluded you into thinking everybody is dying to get BUGged. UVA has a very wealthy and healthy athletics department. That combined with the fact that UVA strongly prefers a conference like the ACC, primarily southern schools with many private schools and some smaller state universities, means the BUG really should turn to KU or settle for 14 or maybe make a play for Buffalo.

Buffalo and UConn would sew up the northeast for the mighty unpronounceable 2nd letter/1st number/7th letter and make it the envy of college football and sports generally.

Ldandy and I have been over this many times. UVA is not Northern, and UVA is not Midwestern. UVA is mid-Atlantic with Southern and Eastern ties. UVA is in the correct conference right now. It is Penn State that is in the wrong conference, and a good number of the Penn State faithful know this and express this. Ldandy thinks it is a small minority. Penn State is Eastern and has traditional rivalries with Pittsburgh and Syracuse. Its alumni live up and down the eastern seaboard just like Pittsburgh's do. They do not sprawl the midwest.

I've tried to suggest good candidates for the Big Ten like UConn, Iowa State, and now North Dakota State. But he keeps coming back to my school. We are in a better situation and are not coming. I'd like UConn in the ACC. But if the ACC is too stupid to invite UConn, they should get a Big Ten invite. And many UConn faithful here want that over the ACC anyway.

 

[kyleslamb]

Ldandy and I have been over this many times. UVA is not Northern, and UVA is not Midwestern. UVA is mid-Atlantic with Southern and Eastern ties. UVA is in the correct conference right now. It is Penn State that is in the wrong conference, and a good number of the Penn State faithful know this and express this. Ldandy thinks it is a small minority. Penn State is Eastern and has traditional rivalries with Pittsburgh and Syracuse. Its alumni live up and down the eastern seaboard just like Pittsburgh's do. They do not sprawl the midwest.

I've tried to suggest good candidates for the Big Ten like UConn, Iowa State, and now North Dakota State. But he keeps coming back to my school. We are in a better situation and are not coming. I'd like UConn in the ACC. But if the ACC is too stupid to invite UConn, they should get a Big Ten invite. And many UConn faithful here want that over the ACC anyway.

Better situation? Laugh.

You do realize that your former ACC rival will be doubling up on you in conference revenue within the next five years, right?

 

[NotreDameJoe]

Better situation? Laugh.

You do realize that your former ACC rival will be doubling up on you in conference revenue within the next five years, right?

The buggers will make more but it won't be twice more. That news was for pr purposes.

As WE the fans will probably never touch a dime of those millions (and somehow more athletic success results in HIGHER tuition prices) it's quite rational to prefer our alma mater take athletic success over financial gain.

 

[Ldandy]

UCONN is welcome, and then we'll wait for UVA thanks. Shouldn't be too long.

 

[upstater]

Ldandy and I have been over this many times. UVA is not Northern, and UVA is not Midwestern. UVA is mid-Atlantic with Southern and Eastern ties. UVA is in the correct conference right now. It is Penn State that is in the wrong conference, and a good number of the Penn State faithful know this and express this. Ldandy thinks it is a small minority. Penn State is Eastern and has traditional rivalries with Pittsburgh and Syracuse. Its alumni live up and down the eastern seaboard just like Pittsburgh's do. They do not sprawl the midwest.

I've tried to suggest good candidates for the Big Ten like UConn, Iowa State, and now North Dakota State. But he keeps coming back to my school. We are in a better situation and are not coming. I'd like UConn in the ACC. But if the ACC is too stupid to invite UConn, they should get a Big Ten invite. And many UConn faithful here want that over the ACC anyway.

There is no Eastern conference. PSU has strong ties to Rutgers and Maryland and they are in the B1G. In 1988, Paterno said he went back to the BE "with Maryland in his pocket" and wanted to join but was rebuffed.

 

[btstimpy]

Better situation? Laugh.

You do realize that your former ACC rival will be doubling up on you in conference revenue within the next five years, right?

I'm not the least bit convinced of this. It will take 7 years for the new Big Ten teams to buy into equal share. And from what I see, the gap is exaggerated especially if the ACC launches a network. What I do know is that both the football coaches at Virginia and at Virginia Tech are literally giddy over the gift that Maryland has given them on the recruiting trail with high school talent in Virginia and the DC areas of Maryland. I've heard both Mike London and Frank Beamer discuss it publicly. The opportunity to play against Penn State, Michigan, and Ohio State is attractive along with Nebraska. It's easily countered with Notre Dame, Florida State, Miami, and Clemson. And then there are the rest of these games on the other side of the moon for those kids and families to think about.

I'm not worried about Maryland having any advantage at all. In fact, I expect them to dwindle in that Big Ten East division.

 

[btstimpy]

There is no Eastern conference. PSU has strong ties to Rutgers and Maryland and they are in the B1G. In 1988, Paterno said he went back to the BE "with Maryland in his pocket" and wanted to join but was rebuffed.

In football at least Penn State has played 94 football games against Pittsburgh and 69 football games against Syracuse. Pitt has won 42 of those games and Syracuse 23. Now compare that to 37 games against Maryland with Maryland only winning 1 game over 50 years ago, and then against a rivalry with Rutgers where Rutgers has won 2 games out of 24 games. One of the Rutgers wins is from 1918. Most around now missed that one.

Upstater I don't think it will be difficult for you to analyse this comparison to find the actual strong rivalries. I could be wrong, but doubt it. There is some history with the new Big Ten additions yes. It's doormat. Penn State has history with Temple too. At least Temple has won 3 games. Maybe lopsided rivalries is what Penn State wants. That's boring to me, but to each his own.

There is a conference that incorporates the entire East Coast. No there isn't a P5 northeastern conference, but there is an eastern one. It is not the Big Ten.

 

[BC1978]

I agree. It really is understandable that Miami fans would have little to no interest in watching a game against Boston College University. It's about as exciting as watching a game against a SWAC team.

Yes, because Miami fans have never seen an exciting game between these two teams. Ever! No iconic last second Hail Mary's to win a game. No 100 yard interceptions on the last play to seal a game. Nope. Just boring football!

 

[Adios]

What you say has a ton of merit, but it's not just this board. It''s about every board and every fanbase. Heck, it isn't just limited to athletics... there is a snobby culture out there where people thump their chests about the perception of their university because of what ultimately centers around how selective the admissions are.

I will never understand why sports fans feel the need to worry so much about academic ranking(s) but I also don't understand why so much debate is spent on the subjective rankings in any capacity.

Whatever it takes to feel better about themselves. Worshiping their own schools.

 

[Adios]

And Huskies and learning to do it with the ACC. Just wait until you have a century or more of character attacks.

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Want a tissue?

 

[upstater]

Yes, because Miami fans have never seen an exciting game between these two teams. Ever! No iconic last second Hail Mary's to win a game. No 100 yard interceptions on the last play to seal a game. Nope. Just boring football!

I'm not talking about things that happened when Herbert Hoover was President.

 

[upstater]

In football at least Penn State has played 94 football games against Pittsburgh and 69 football games against Syracuse. Pitt has won 42 of those games and Syracuse 23. Now compare that to 37 games against Maryland with Maryland only winning 1 game over 50 years ago, and then against a rivalry with Rutgers where Rutgers has won 2 games out of 24 games. One of the Rutgers wins is from 1918. Most around now missed that one.

Upstater I don't think it will be difficult for you to analyse this comparison to find the actual strong rivalries. I could be wrong, but doubt it. There is some history with the new Big Ten additions yes. It's doormat. Penn State has history with Temple too. At least Temple has won 3 games. Maybe lopsided rivalries is what Penn State wants. That's boring to me, but to each his own.

There is a conference that incorporates the entire East Coast. No there isn't a P5 northeastern conference, but there is an eastern one. It is not the Big Ten.

Since going to the B10, PSU has regularly scheduled games against Rutgers. Maryland has always had a relationship because of the closeness of the schools and the recruiting territories are shared. The Pitt series will always be special for many older PSU fans but because Pitt insists on a yearly series, it can't happen. The Syracuse games are so far in the past and not at all appealing to PSU fans because of how that series ended with PSU dominating. You assume that PSU has closer ties to the ACC but that's absolutely wrong. Most PSU fans would be livid at giving up the games against Michigan and Ohio St. especially, but also Nebraska.

 

[Sea Goat]

The BUG is the French Army of college football and should be swatted at every opportunity.

And exactly what is ND? An over-rated FB school with marginal olympic sports? Its best days are in the rearview mirror and the nostalgia is wearing thin. It's been 26 years and counting since ND was relevant... ND survives and prospers now until the memories fade and the vestiges of greatness melt in the cauldron of mediocrity.

 

[upstater]

And exactly what is ND? An over-rated FB school with marginal olympic sports? Its best days are in the rearview mirror and the nostalgia is wearing thin. It's been 26 years and counting since ND was relevant... ND survives and prospers now until the memories fade and the vestiges of greatness melt in the cauldron of mediocrity.

I think ND can sustain it for much, much longer. 5 ACC games? ND just kept its semblance of relevance by watering down its schedule.