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I guess you could reasonably say it doesn't matter much but there is a pretty big drop-off between Villanova and Georgetown.
Sure or could look it as the better quality opponent gets us the higher quality win for the resume. Other than wanting to avoid a rough matchup StJ team till finals not sure we want to overly shy away from playing good teams before the big dance.

Creighton isn’t losing anyway.
 
Maybe I'm stupid but I am not seeing how people are still worried about being the 4. Don't we control our destiny for 3? (Aka beat Hall)
 
Maybe I'm stupid but I am not seeing how people are still worried about being the 4. Don't we control our destiny for 3? (Aka beat Hall)
Yes the only scenario we end up as a 4 seed is if we lose Saturday
 
Just beat SHU . I mean they must get revenge for that meltdown. Then we are 3/2 and that is preferred. I think Xavier has a good team, and can knock off SJU.
 
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But is the reward of keeping hope alive to get the 2-seed worth the risk of leaving the possibility open of getting the 4-seed? I'm kind of on the fence, but I am thinking it's not worth it. Therefore I want Marquette to lose to SJU. The 2-seed will be out the window, but so will the 4-seed.
Looking at the matrix in the tweet above, the only way we could possibly drop to the four seed is if we lose to Seton Hall. Otherwise we are the three, possibly the two.

So take care of business, and let other chips fall.
 
Not really. It will determine uniform colors in the semifinals but not much else.


I'm getting a little tired of seeing this. We need to be willing to face whoever's in front of us and not try to run from competition. If they beat us, they beat us. I'm not sure they are anything that great where we would have to hope for some divine intervention.
If this thought enters my mind I think about Lousiville in 2014 and the thoughts quickly disappear.
 
Agreed. We need to beat these teams if we want to feel good about ourselves moving forward in the postseason. And just so everyone knows the teams we will be playing in R1 NCAA will be better than Xavier, Georgetown and Villanova.
"And just so everyone knows the teams we will be playing in R1 NCAA will be better than Xavier, Georgetown and Villanova."

Not if we win the Big East tournament....:rolleyes:
 
To me it is just about the theatre of Saturday night at the Garden where we get our revenge. I’m not afraid.
I would love for us to cut down the nets after beating St John's in what they believe is their home court. I have a gut feeling however that Xavier is going to make it to the title game.
 
I don’t want stj to tie our best big east(*, I know) record from last year. em
 
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This game tonight is massive in my opinion, it either puts us on the right side of getting to a 7 seed, or firmly on the wrong side. It's also at a juncture where it feels like we are developing some things that could make us a lot more interesting in two weeks than we looked a month ago (Tarris).

This is a Marquette team we beat away, have a distinct interior advantage and I would think as long as we don't fumble the ball around like it's greased in olive oil again, should win. Tonight marks a game that is really going to show us if this team has a chance. The last two were nice warm ups against meh teams, now we have a real opponent on our turf (a place we haven't played great), on the eve of the post season.

Dare I say, most important game to date. Worst case scenario is that we are a sloppy mess, aren't hitting outside shots and Hurley moves back towards Samson and away from developing Tarris as a core piece.

Marquette has been a really meh basketball team since January. Their best win since Jan 7 has been home vs Nova. They're always tired and banged up at this point in the year. My gutt says we win by 7.
"Worst case scenario is that we are a sloppy mess, aren't hitting outside shots and Hurley moves back towards Samson and away from developing Tarris as a core piece."

The good news here is we didn't get sloppy, hit three's better in the second half and SJ showed we may have more potential for a two headed monster in the middle like the last two years than we've shown to date.

Now that could prove to be really interesting......
 
So just to lay it out based on that chart:

1) If St John’s wins, we are the 3 seed
2) If Marquette wins:
a) If we lose to Seton Hall, we are the 4 seed​
b) If we beat Seton Hall:​
i) if Butler wins, we are the 2​
ii) if Creighton wins, we are the 3​
 
So just to lay it out based on that chart:

1) If St John’s wins, we are the 3 seed
2) If Marquette wins:
a) If we lose to Seton Hall, we are the 4 seed​
b) If we beat Seton Hall:​
i) if Butler wins, we are the 2​
ii) if Creighton wins, we are the 3​

Perfect for us software coding types to understand !

(2a) can not happen . If UConn loses to SHU again on senior day, that would be really really disappointing going into the post season. Beat SHU and we are not a #4 seed.
 
The fact of the matter is that we CANNOT lose to Hall again as it would practically close the door to anything better than 8/9 in the Dance unless we win the BET
 
Perfect for us software coding types to understand !

(2a) can not happen . If UConn loses to SHU again on senior day, that would be really really disappointing going into the post season. Beat SHU and we are not a #4 seed.
The thought of losing to Seton Hall in Gampel on Senior Day just made me throw up in my mouth.

UConn needs to deliver a mammoth beatdown to Seton Hall this Saturday.
 
The thought of losing to Seton Hall in Gampel on Senior Day just made me throw up in my mouth.

UConn needs to deliver a mammoth beatdown to Seton Hall this Saturday.
And even that wouldn’t rid the bad taste of that loss. I still can’t believe they lost to that crappy team. I’ll get over it at some point.
 
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I don’t worry about any of this seeding because it means little. Marquette flew high 2 years ago, won the BE tournament, then flamed out in the NCAA which is the only tourney that actually is remembered. Yes it’s nice to win the BE tourney, yes it would be great to face and beat St. John’s and stick it to Pitino but I just want to see our team functioning at a high level which it appears we are.
We lose a very close BE tourney game it’s not a catastrophe.
 
I don’t worry about any of this seeding because it means little. Marquette flew high 2 years ago, won the BE tournament, then flamed out in the NCAA which is the only tourney that actually is remembered. Yes it’s nice to win the BE tourney, yes it would be great to face and beat St. John’s and stick it to Pitino but I just want to see our team functioning at a high level which it appears we are.
We lose a very close BE tourney game it’s not a catastrophe.
Couldn’t agree more - conference tourneys are only remembered by fans of individual teams, not the national audience. Apart of seeding this year, I’d rather we get healthy. Last year it was meaningful as part of a dominant run, this year not as much. The only reason I’d like us to go on a run this year is to get off the 8-9 line. Whether you like it or not, 90% of the college hoops season memories are registered during the dance.
 
Couldn’t agree more - conference tourneys are only remembered by fans of individual teams, not the national audience. Apart of seeding this year, I’d rather we get healthy. Last year it was meaningful as part of a dominant run, this year not as much. The only reason I’d like us to go on a run this year is to get off the 8-9 line. Whether you like it or not, 90% of the college hoops season memories are registered during the dance.
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Couldn’t agree more - conference tourneys are only remembered by fans of individual teams, not the national audience. Apart of seeding this year, I’d rather we get healthy. Last year it was meaningful as part of a dominant run, this year not as much. The only reason I’d like us to go on a run this year is to get off the 8-9 line. Whether you like it or not, 90% of the college hoops season memories are registered during the dance.
True but by this logic only a final four/national championship matters to a national audience. Only a select few programs are final four or bust any given year.
 
Agree. It's also not even true because one reason teams like Duke, Kentucky, & Kansas are always placed above us in program rankings is that they have dominated their conferences to a much higher degree than we have. So it does actually register nationally.

Some of my best memories are winning BE tournaments (and winning regular seasons outright). It's so lame how a giant percentage of people here **** on anything that's not a national title.
 
True but by this logic only a final four/national championship matters to a national audience. Only a select few programs are final four or bust any given year.
I'd say we are there. In terms of keeping national momentum with what we've built, I'm far more invested in the big tourney. BET would be a nice to have this year. Last year it was meaningful to cap an all time season and because it's been so long. I get a tingle we'd be best suited to go on a run from a less assuming position.
 
Couldn’t agree more - conference tourneys are only remembered by fans of individual teams, not the national audience. Apart of seeding this year, I’d rather we get healthy. Last year it was meaningful as part of a dominant run, this year not as much. The only reason I’d like us to go on a run this year is to get off the 8-9 line. Whether you like it or not, 90% of the college hoops season memories are registered during the dance.
Who gives a flip about the national audience? We ARE fans of an individual team in the conference tournament in question. Are you saying you derive enjoyment from observing the accolades UConn collects from non-UConn fans, and not from the games and achievements of the team itself?
 
Who gives a flip about the national audience? We ARE fans of an individual team in the conference tournament in question. Are you saying you derive enjoyment from observing the accolades UConn collects from non-UConn fans, and not from the games and achievements of the team itself?
There's no point in being a fan with his attitude. He's basing his rooting interest on what he thinks other fans may care about or remember in the future. As a fan I want "my" team to win every regular season game, win the conference championship, win the conference tournament, win the NCAA tournament.

Some of my favorite memories as a fan and some of the best games I've ever seen were in the conference tournament. I'm extremely happy I got to watch the UConn Georgetown Big East championship game where Ray hit the scissor kick runner in the lane. It's one of the best games I've ever seen. Taliek with the desperation three point bomb to bury Pitt in another title game classic. Kemba putting McGhee on skates and draining the long jumper for the win as time expired. One of the most iconic plays ever. The list goes on.
 
Couldn’t agree more - conference tourneys are only remembered by fans of individual teams, not the national audience. Apart of seeding this year, I’d rather we get healthy. Last year it was meaningful as part of a dominant run, this year not as much. The only reason I’d like us to go on a run this year is to get off the 8-9 line. Whether you like it or not, 90% of the college hoops season memories are registered during the dance.
I would rather win the Big East tournament and lose in the first round of the NCAA than lose in the Big East tournament but make the Sweet 16, maybe even the Elite 8. Trophies matter
 
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