Big East Tournament Scenarios

[UCfor3]

There's no point in being a fan with his attitude. He's basing his rooting interest on what he thinks other fans may care about or remember in the future. As a fan I want "my" team to win every regular season game, win the conference championship, win the conference tournament, win the NCAA tournament.

Some of my favorite memories as a fan and some of the best games I've ever seen were in the conference tournament. I'm extremely happy I got to watch the UConn Georgetown Big East championship game where Ray hit the scissor kick runner in the lane. It's one of the best games I've ever seen. Taliek with the desperation three point bomb to bury Pitt in another title game classic. Kemba putting McGhee on skates and draining the long jumper for the win as time expired. One of the most iconic plays ever. The list goes on.

Agreed. I've been to many Big East tournaments at MSG. Used to take time off work and go to every single game, even the non Uconn games in the first round where you could sit in the front row with your feet up because the place was empty. Pre gaming at bars with my buddies and other UConn fans for big games. Took my wife(girlfriend at time) to the 1999 tourney and saw us wipe out St Johns when KFree was MVP. She has been a rabid UConn fan ever since. You can't tell me these games don't matter. I remember many of those games more than many NCAA games. In the 90's and 2000's the BE tourney was epic. Games were incredible.

 

[navery12]

I don't, but our most vital 1, and 2, ball handlers were not on a bum knee. I just happen to think Hassan is a huge aspect of any potential run. He's looked rough on games separated by 3-4 days, not sure how he's going to look on 3 games back to back with a Uconn-slayer on the back end.

Pitino resting D Smith tomorrow, there is smart man thinking about the long haul. And that's after a full week of rest and then another 4-5 days going into the BET.

I know we can't trust what Pitino says, but I wouldn't call it resting Deivon Smith tomorrow when he's likely to miss the whole BET tournament as well according to Pitino

 

[superjohn]

I don't, but our most vital 1, and 2, ball handlers were not on a bum knee. I just happen to think Hassan is a huge aspect of any potential run. He's looked rough on games separated by 3-4 days, not sure how he's going to look on 3 games back to back with a Uconn-slayer on the back end.

Pitino resting D Smith tomorrow, there is smart man thinking about the long haul. And that's after a full week of rest and then another 4-5 days going into the BET.

Hass has looked fine lately. Now you're getting duped by Pitino. I promise you Pitino cares deeply about winning the Big East tournament.

 

[RuffRuff]

Hass has looked fine lately. Now you're getting duped by Pitino. I promise you Pitino cares deeply about winning the Big East tournament.

Pitino has come out today and literally said Smith is out tomorrow, not a GTD. If he pulls a fast one here, then we know he's 100% FOS 100% of the time.

 

[superjohn]

Pitino has come out today and literally said Smith is out tomorrow, not a GTD. If he pulls a fast one here, then we know he's 100% FOS 100% of the time.

I already know he's 100% FOS 100% of the time. I knew that a long time ago, it's actually part of his appeal.

 

[UConnSwag11]

Pitino has come out today and literally said Smith is out tomorrow, not a GTD. If he pulls a fast one here, then we know he's 100% FOS 100% of the time.

@makethisaquote “quote this”

 

[UConnSwag11]

Pitino has come out today and literally said Smith is out tomorrow, not a GTD. If he pulls a fast one here, then we know he's 100% FOS 100% of the time.

Still has 18 hours

 

[gsmooth]

Still has 18 hours

Once the starting lineups are released than we will see. Until then, this message means nothing.

 

[connVA]

I don't, but our most vital 1, and 2, ball handlers were not on a bum knee. I just happen to think Hassan is a huge aspect of any potential run. He's looked rough on games separated by 3-4 days, not sure how he's going to look on 3 games back to back with a Uconn-slayer on the back end.

Pitino resting D Smith tomorrow, there is smart man thinking about the long haul. And that's after a full week of rest and then another 4-5 days going into the BET.

Resting Smith tomorrow? Yeah sure. Hopefully Shaka doesn’t fall for this crap the way McDermott did.

 

[RuffRuff]

 

[HooperScooper]

6th man of the year in the Big East? Does any other team have anyone that good coming off the bench?

 

[RuffRuff]

6th man of the year in the Big East? Does any other team have anyone that good coming off the bench?

I’d say no. He’s a starter on all teams other than StJ and Creighton.

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[bendm]

Pitino is going for 18 conference wins. Only other team to do that was us. No chance he doesn't want to steal some of our thunder.

I don’t think they’ll rest guys either b/c they want a 2 seed in March but that’s not the point I was clarifying

 

[bendm]

But is the reward of keeping hope alive to get the 2-seed worth the risk of leaving the possibility open of getting the 4-seed? I'm kind of on the fence, but I am thinking it's not worth it. Therefore I want Marquette to lose to SJU. The 2-seed will be out the window, but so will the 4-seed.

If we lose to hall again we have bigger problems than being the 4 seed. It would guarantee we can’t do better than an 8/9 in the dance.

 

[Get a Job]

If we lose to hall again we have bigger problems than being the 4 seed. It would guarantee we can’t do better than an 8/9 in the dance.

No argument there. It would be a disaster to lose to SHU again. But if we did lose to SHU, I'd rather the result not matter for seeding vs. having it knock us down to the 4-seed.

 

[auror]

6th man of the year in the Big East? Does any other team have anyone that good coming off the bench?

Whomever St. John's decides is the 6th man will have a real shot, whether it be Wilcher or Smith. They had basically 6 starters they rotated (they all had at least 17 starts), so I don't know what the award restrictions are.

DePaul's CJ Gunn was on the bench for a while and averages 13ppg, but he started most of the games in conference play.

As far as true guy that pretty much never started, it's definitely Reed. He's got a great shot at it if Deivon Smith isn't in the running.

 

[HooperScooper]

As far as true guy that pretty much never started, it's definitely Reed. He's got a great shot at it if Deivon Smith isn't in the running.

Smith has played in 15 Big East games and started in 10 of them. Doesn't seem like a 6th man. Wilcher has started 12 of 19 Big East games. Again, doesn't seem like a 6th man.

Reed has started 1 (Johnson was out) of 19 Big East games.

 

[NJHusky]

Agree. It's also not even true because one reason teams like Duke, Kentucky, & Kansas are always placed above us in program rankings is that they have dominated their conferences to a much higher degree than we have. So it does actually register nationally.
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They have also been to more FF and E8 than us

 

[auror]

Smith has played in 15 Big East games and started in 10 of them. Doesn't seem like a 6th man. Wilcher has started 12 of 19 Big East games. Again, doesn't seem like a 6th man.

Reed has started 1 (Johnson was out) of 19 Big East games.

Yeah it's unclear. Divincenzo won it in 2018 starting in 9 of 18 games in BE play. The St. John's guys are clear of that mark, but is it possible for a team to have none of their top 6 minute earners qualify for sixth man of the year? I don't know how the Big East answers that question.

Paul Jorgensen, who I have never heard of until this very moment, won in '19 and he started 16 games, but the vast majority were in non-conference games.

 

[HuskyV]

If we want to continue arguing for Blue Blood status we need to be considered the best team in the Big East - over time no other team should compare.

Winning BE Regular Season & BET's matter. And in the years in between championships you need to be in the NCAA EVERY year & get to Final4 or Elite8 in off years.

Losing in BET Semi's & Sweet16 would be a good performance - as long as we play well & lose to a good team. But if you expect other fans to consider the program to be special, you need to do special things.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Don't get me wrong; if we're playing a game and they're keeping score, I want the W.

This is a difficult argument as it is never an either/or, but to clarify the point on each side it needs to be viewed as such, which is why my earlier examples were viewing a couple of seasons retrospectively.

Back to how this should be considered (this is a forum where we can make a leap like this) if you were told that not including today's game, we will lose one (and only one) more game this season, where would you prefer to havethat loss?

 

[Peacefrog]

Don't get me wrong; if we're playing a game and they're keeping score, I want the W.

This is a difficult argument as it is never an either/or, but to clarify the point on each side it needs to be viewed as such, which is why my earlier examples were viewing a couple of seasons retrospectively.

Back to how this should be considered (this is a forum where we can make a leap like this) if you were told that not including today's game, we will lose one (and only one) more game this season, where would you prefer to havethat loss?

Big East Tournament final. Is there even another reasonable answer? This would maximize victories and add another National Championship and historic three-peat.

 

[RuffRuff]

If we want to continue arguing for Blue Blood status we need to be considered the best team in the Big East - over time no other team should compare.

Winning BE Regular Season & BET's matter. And in the years in between championships you need to be in the NCAA EVERY year & get to Final4 or Elite8 in off years.

Losing in BET Semi's & Sweet16 would be a good performance - as long as we play well & lose to a good team. But if you expect other fans to consider the program to be special, you need to do special things.

How we do in the big tournament is light years more important than what we do in the BE as it comes to perceived BB status. There is no one from an opposing BB fan base that sites out BE accolades as grounds for status. Any knocks are around our inconsistency making the tournament. We are seen as all or nothing.

 

[jpeakin]

So with the St. J win, if I'm reading this correctly, looks like nothing else matters...we are locked at the three.

 

[DCHuskyFan]

So with a Creighton loss, we are still locked in at the 3?