Big East shopping for new TV deal - Game on (or no games on).

[BlueMAB]

That may be a fantasy, but it is not a fantasy that I concocted:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/c...ne-games-national-tv-article-1.1127668?pgno=1''

"One of the network’s ideas may be to run a full day of Big East football, along with Notre Dame home games, from noon to midnight Saturdays on either NBC or its still-growing cable channel."

This was one of multiple write-ups speculating on that being a real possibility. Does this mean it will happen? Of course not. But why are you "poo-pooing" an idea for being fantasy when others are already speculating on it and how it makes sense?

"One idea may be"

I'm not overly enthusiastic about that quote. It doesn't even say that's actually one of their ideas. It says it MAY be one of theyr ideas. Talk about pure speculation. Yes, it's fair to poo-poo complete speculation on one of many possible scenarios.

 

[UConnDan97]

2) We should be able to see games on SNY yes. I don't think the rest of the conference has a deal with SNY, so that's not going to convince anyone other than Rutgers and UConn to sign a deal with NBC. SNY is an NY station. Bringing in SMU and SDSU doesn't help SNY at all, so I don't see why it makes the Big East more valuable.

3) You're making up the number of times UConn would be on the main NBC channel. Completely pulling that number out of your arse. We've been on ABC/ESPN/ESPN2 when we've been good. When we suck we aren't. Why would this change by going with NBC? It won't. ND gets top billing 7 weeks a year. Then we're competing with 13 other teams depending on how many conference games are taking place. Not to mention we don't know if NBC would want to broadcast more than 1 game on NBC each day. Maybe they do, but there is no reason to assume they would if the games are dog****.

4) You're making **** up as you go along. You don't know what they would do with those games head to head. Depends on what they get for ratings this year vs what they think they can get for football.

Stop clowning, WingU.

3) Yes, of course I made the number up, since I as much as said so. Even if the number is "once", it is more than we were on ABC this year. If the plan by NBC is to bracket ND (which I provided a link for, so....not out of my ), then that would be a reasonable assumption.

4) I'm not making anything up at all. ESPN REGULARLY moved gametimes of MLS in order to air other products that they felt were more valuable. Are you kidding me??? I love soccer with all my heart, but I am not stupid enough to think that I am not in the minority on that on any given Saturday. If you think that MLS and Don Garber are going to try to play some sort of hardball with a major network because they want to play at 12pm and not 6pm, then you are sadly mistaken. To quote GDL....OK???

 

[UConnDan97]

WingU and Whaler,

Since there is no amount of links or of talks in the media that you will believe until it actually happens, then just wait for it to happen! Or for it not to happen. Why the hell would you both badger people who comment on what's being talked about and how it might be good for UConn??? Do you not like UConn? Or do you just not like the people that like UConn?

I know it sounds tongue-in-cheek, but I'm being dead serious. This board is full of a bunch of crotchety old ladies, yapping about how life sucks and how anyone who might hope for different is an a. But the fact of the matter is that the two of you have NO MORE INFO than anyone else on the board. So if you want to believe that the deal will suck, or our exposure will suck, or WE will suck, then why do you feel the need to try to share your disease with others? Really...

 

[whaler11]

Everyone will move MLS for anything. They would move MLS so Magnus Von Magnusson could pull a train with his teeth.

Why would anyone need to move MLS anyway? They pick football game start times 11 days out.

 

[UConnDan97]

Everyone will move MLS for anything. They would move MLS so Magnus Von Magnusson could pull a train with his teeth.

Tell that to WingU, who believes I'm pulling that out of my for some reason...

 

[whaler11]

WingU and Whaler,

Since there is no amount of links or of talks in the media that you will believe until it actually happens, then just wait for it to happen! Or for it not to happen. Why the hell would you both badger people who comment on what's being talked about and how it would be good for UConn??? Do you not like UConn? Or do you just not like the people that like UConn?

I know it sounds tongue-in-cheek, but I'm being dead serious. This board is full of a bunch of crotchety old ladies, yapping about how life sucks and anyone who might hope for different is an a. But the fact of the matter is that the two of you have NO MORE INFO than anyone else on the board. So if you want to believe that the deal will suck, or our exposure will suck, or WE will suck, then why do you feel the need to try to share your disease with others? Really...

Sorry it's not clear. I don't think NBC is good for UConn or the Big East.

I never claimed to have any info - My stance is simple. NBC is a graveyard. Go to NBC - league stops getting players - quality of play goes down - people stop watching altogether.

I'm not badgering anyone - I just think the NBC circlejerk is wrong. If you want to argue against ESPN come up with real reasons - not hurt feelings.

 

[UConnDan97]

By the way, Whaler...this is thread #4 for you and me...

 

[whaler11]

Tell that to WingU, who believes I'm pulling that out of my for some reason...

I've got enough battles - I don't need any more.

 

[BlueMAB]

Stop clowning, WingU.

3) Yes, of course I made the number up, since I as much as said so. Even if the number is "once", it is more than we were on ABC this year. If the plan by NBC is to bracket ND (which I provided a link for, so....not out of my ), then that would be a reasonable assumption.

4) I'm not making anything up at all. ESPN REGULARLY moved gametimes of MLS in order to air other products that they felt were more valuable. Are you kidding me??? I love soccer with all my heart, but I am not stupid enough to think that I am not in the minority on that on any given Saturday. If you think that MLS and Don Garber are going to try to play some sort of hardball with a major network because they want to play at 12pm and not 6pm, then you are sadly mistaken. To quote GDL....OK???

There's no reason to think the number would be one. None. The link says one of the ideas may be. That's like saying one of our wins next year may be against Michigan. And we've been on ABC/ESPN on Saturday when we've been good. The key is we have to be good. If we aren't, we're not going to ever be on NBC.

ESPN has better products than the Big East. I don't think MLS has to play hardball. I think NBC may look at a game between LA and NY as more valuable than one between Houston and SMU. Or SDSU/South Florida. You're comparing apples to oranges with ESPN and NBC.

 

[whaler11]

By the way, Whaler...this is thread #4 for you and me...

Today? On this subject? Why are you tracking? Your wife have the baby yet?

 

[UConnDan97]

Sorry it's not clear. I don't think NBC is good for UConn or the Big East.

I never claimed to have any info - My stance is simple. NBC is a graveyard. Go to NBC - league stops getting players - quality of play goes down - people stop watching altogether.

I'm not badgering anyone - I just think the NBC circlejerk is wrong. If you want to argue against ESPN come up with real reasons - not hurt feelings.

As you know (or should know by now), I've said numerous times in the realignment area that if ESPN offers equal money for the Big East that the BE should take ESPN. If that is what you are arguing, then I will agree with that. I know the power of being on "Sportscenter", and I know the power of what happens when ESPN wants to marginalize you (as evidenced over the last year).

But if NBC offers a better contract, then I still see it as a positive. More money, and the channel will certainly work hard to promote us and our well-being. There's no doubt about that, because a big company does not pay a premium for a product without the intention of maximizing the investment. I'm sure you'll agree with that as well, right?

 

[UConnDan97]

There's no reason to think the number would be one. None. The link says one of the ideas may be. That's like saying one of our wins next year may be against Michigan. And we've been on ABC/ESPN on Saturday when we've been good. The key is we have to be good. If we aren't, we're not going to ever be on NBC.

ESPN has better products than the Big East. I don't think MLS has to play hardball. I think NBC may look at a game between LA and NY as more valuable than one between Houston and SMU. Or SDSU/South Florida. You're comparing apples to oranges with ESPN and NBC.

Apples and oranges?? Then how come you are offering up a game of LA vs. NY in soccer, instead of the one I just watched in the playoffs of LA vs. San Jose? Because it wasn't sexy enough for you? Hmmm.....

 

[whaler11]

As you know (or should know by now), I've said numerous times in the realignment area that if ESPN offers equal money for the Big East that the BE should take ESPN. If that is what you are arguing, then I will agree with that. I know the power of being on "Sportscenter", and I know the power of what happens when ESPN wants to marginalize you (as evidenced over the last year).

But if NBC offers a better contract, then I still see it as a positive. More money, and the channel will certainly work hard to promote us and our well-being. There's no doubt about that, because a big company does not pay a premium for a product without the intention of maximizing the investment. I'm sure you'll agree with that as well, right?

So how much more money per team? Is 1 million enough? 2? 5?

 

[UConnDan97]

Today? On this subject? Why are you tracking? Your wife have the baby yet?

Christ, Whaler, it was a joke!!! You are a crotchety old lady, aren't you?

 

[whaler11]

Apples and oranges?? Then how come you are offering up a game of LA vs. NY in soccer, instead of the one I just watched in the playoffs of LA vs. San Jose? Because it wasn't sexy enough for you? Hmmm.....

You watched that? Are the batteries in your remote dead?

 

[whaler11]

Christ, Whaler, it was a joke!!! You are a crotchety old lady, aren't you?

So if you miss my reply as a joke who is the old lady? And I really asked if your wife had the baby.

 

[UConnDan97]

You watched that? Are the batteries in your remote dead?

I've told you before and I'll tell you again; soccer is my favorite sport. Tomorrow, I will be DVRing UConn vs. ND in the semis of the Big East soccer tourney...

 

[UConnDan97]

So if you miss my reply as a joke who is the old lady?

It's either because you included 4 questions in your joke or because your "punch line" didn't land...

 

[whaler11]

I've told you before and I'll tell you again; soccer is my favorite sport. Tomorrow, I will be DVRing UConn vs. ND in the semis of the Big East soccer tourney...

Baseball used to be my favorite sport - I still would have skipped Pawtucket and Indianapolis on NESN if there were better options.

 

[UConnDan97]

And I really asked if your wife had the baby.

She's "any day" now. There will be a period (no pun intended) very soon that I will be Boneyard-less for about 3-5 days. I'm sure I'll be missed! Thanks for asking and remembering, though...

 

[UConnDan97]

Baseball used to be my favorite sport - I still would have skipped Pawtucket and Indianapolis on NESN if there were better options.

Yeah, but would you have skipped the Brewers vs. the Yankees? (I'm treating LA as the Yankees for the purposes of our discussion, since they have all the big named players). Also, what the hell happened to your avatar??

 

[BlueMAB]

Tell that to WingU, who believes I'm pulling that out of my for some reason...

I said you pulled the number of times we'd be on NBC out of your ass. You did.

I never said they wouldn't move MLS games, you did. I said you don't know that, and what I meant is why would they have to? Moving it is one thing, the point you're missing is that they'll still broadcast it. And by broadcasting it (since the games take place either in the afternoon at night, just like football) means that's fewer football games they are going to show. The point stands.

WingU and Whaler,

Since there is no amount of links or of talks in the media that you will believe until it actually happens, then just wait for it to happen! Or for it not to happen. Why the hell would you both badger people who comment on what's being talked about and how it might be good for UConn??? Do you not like UConn? Or do you just not like the people that like UConn?

I know it sounds tongue-in-cheek, but I'm being dead serious. This board is full of a bunch of crotchety old ladies, yapping about how life sucks and how anyone who might hope for different is an a. But the fact of the matter is that the two of you have NO MORE INFO than anyone else on the board. So if you want to believe that the deal will suck, or our exposure will suck, or WE will suck, then why do you feel the need to try to share your disease with others? Really...

I'm sorry that life isn't all unicorns and sunshine, that you can't handle your opinion being challenged, and that differing opinios are somehow to be taken as personal assualts. I guess that's your diseas to manage. Maybe one day you'll put big boy pants on and realize that not everyone is going to be concerned about protecting your feelings.

 

[whaler11]

She's "any day" now. There will be a period (no pun intended) very soon that I will be Boneyard-less for about 3-5 days. I'm sure I'll be missed! Thanks for asking and remembering, though...

If it's your first, the best time is when she's on maternity. It's straight downhill once that ends.

 

[UConnDan97]

I'm sorry that life isn't all unicorns and sunshine, that you can't handle your opinion being challenged, and that differing opinios are somehow to be taken as personal assualts.

The second you bring any facts to "challenge" my opinions, I'll consider it an honor. Until then, you're still just portraying life as all dark clouds and skunked beer...

 

[BlueMAB]

Apples and oranges?? Then how come you are offering up a game of LA vs. NY in soccer, instead of the one I just watched in the playoffs of LA vs. San Jose? Because it wasn't sexy enough for you? Hmmm.....

I bet LA vs. San Jose gets more play in the California market (which is ginormous) than SMU vs. UConn.

I'm offering up possible matches. It's all speculation. The point is, there are MLS games, that are far more valuable in certain (very large) markets than Big East games.

I'm sorry you don't want to admit that.

I want the best for UConn too, i don't belive NBC is the best we can do. Look at the rest of their inventory and tell me how that's the company we want to keep?

 

[UConnDan97]

If it's your first, the best time is when she's on maternity. It's straight downhill once that ends.

It's my second, which somehow has me more nervous. Just the "logistics" of it all; I need to look after one while she is in the hospital looking after the other, and then constantly making the trip back and forth until we're all home. Plus, I have to buy more Husky gear...

 

[whaler11]

Yeah, but would you have skipped the Brewers vs. the Yankees? (I'm treating LA as the Yankees for the purposes of our discussion, since they have all the big named players). Also, what the hell happened to your avatar??

I don't know my phone just went berserk and threw up like 15 straight error messages. Guess I need to find a swimsuit model.

Yes when I was a huge baseball fan I'd take a Yankee Brewer playoff game over Arkansas State and Funroe. I'm not really sold that MLS is equivalent to the American League. Milwaukee will always be in my AL - Houston in the AL is an abomination.

 

[BlueMAB]

The second you bring any facts to "challenge" my opinions, I'll consider it an honor. Until then, you're still just portraying life as all dark clouds and skunked beer...

The outlook for UConn and the Big East is . That's the reality of it.

If there were something positive to take from our current situation I would gladly discuss it.

Your facts are "One idea, may be". That's not a fact. That's speculation from a reporter that you decided to prop up as a strong possibility through the tone of your posts and your obvious opinion on the matter.

 

[UConnDan97]

I bet LA vs. San Jose gets more play in the California market (which is ginormous) than SMU vs. UConn.

I'm offering up possible matches. It's all speculation. The point is, there are MLS games, that are far more valuable in certain (very large) markets than Big East games.

I'm sorry you don't want to admit that.

I want the best for UConn too, i don't belive NBC is the best we can do. Look at the rest of their inventory and tell me how that's the company we want to keep?

I'll admit it when you "show it". Give me ratings of the LA vs. San Jose PLAYOFF game, and then put it against the rating of, let's say, a regular season game between Louisville and Cincy. Those two teams are dog**** anyways, so it shouldn't be a problem, right?

And don't give me a California market and then compare it with SMU-UConn and call it a fact, okay? Give me an SDSU game against someone of meaning, since the Galaxy game was a playoff game, and then we'll compare notes....all bull$#it and no facts...

 

[whaler11]

It's my second, which somehow has me more nervous. Just the "logistics" of it all; I need to look after one while she is in the hospital looking after the other, and then constantly making the trip back and forth until we're all home. Plus, I have to buy more Husky gear...

Yeah that's not multiplicative it is exponential. The first is great - oh you are both sleeping? I'll be at the golf course if anyone needs me.