Big East OOC thread

[CTBasketball]

This might be the strangest start to a year in recent memory. Lots of Jeckle and Hyde performances by top teams. Lots of upsets.

 

[Sibeerian]

Bad ankle roll for Ashworth, he can't put weight on his right ankle

It’s tough in your forties, the body isn’t as flexible

 

[Edward Sargent]

Just read the boxscore Kalkbrenner took one shot in 39 minutes?

 

[RuffRuff]

This might be the strangest start to a year in recent memory. Lots of Jeckle and Hyde performances by top teams. Lots of upsets.

Honestly don’t recall a lot of upsets of “top” teams which I’d consider top 20 or so. Most of the losses in that group have been to each other. Baylor gonna be blown out now for the second time, so maybe that qualifies but both gonna be to other top teams. This Creighton loss probably qualifies as one of the bigger upsets, maybe along with TAM losing to UCF.

 

[auror]

Just read the boxscore Kalkbrenner took one shot in 39 minutes?

If I were a Creighton fan I would be asking a LOT of questions.

 

[JustbrewitMan]

Nebraska had a nice defensive plan but his teammates made absolutely minimal effort to try to feed him the ball when he did try to establish position.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

That Ashworth injury looked bad, and may have smoked Creighton’s season.

 

[Leebo]

Kalkbrenner didn't attempt a 2 point shot???

EDIT: I see he did take 8 free throws, so I guess they just denied and then hacked when he got it close

 

[REB1094]

Kalkbrenner didn't attempt a 2 point shot???

EDIT: I see he did take 8 free throws, so I guess they just denied and then hacked when he got it close

They had his main defender fronting him all night, a secondary defender behind him so they couldn’t throw it over the top, and sometimes even were hovering a third defender nearby too

Nebraska made the rest of Creighton beat them 4v3 or sometimes 4v2, and they weren’t able to

 

[shizzle787]

St. John’s and Butler won. Creighton and Seton Hall lost.

46-10 (5-5)

vs ACC: 3-2
vs Big 10: 2-1
vs Big 12: 0-1
vs SEC: 0-1

Bad losses: Villanova 2x, Seton Hall 2x, and Butler.

 

[BFieldHusky]

Way too early KenPom rankings this morning:

Uconn (6)
St. Johns (10)
Marquette (15)
Creighton (33)
Xavier (42)
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Villanova (62)
Butler (73)
Providence (77)
Seton Hall (105)
Georgetown (111)
DePaul (117)

 

[Icehawk]

Way too early KenPom rankings this morning:

At this point it feels like Nova and DePaul should swap rankings, who would have expected that?

 

[August_West]

Robert O. Wright III doesn't play like a freshman. Poised, confident and skilled.

This should probably be its own thread, but I think the same but here is what I’m getting at it’s Monteverde. EVERY single Frosh this year from Monteverde plays like an upperclassman. It’s not just that they’re talented they are all incredibly poised

Think about it.
Cooper Flagg we know what he is. 17 years old and handling the most high profile spot of any player in any class with total poise.

Liam McNeeley is incredibly solid and poised.

Derrick Queen is the best and most stable player on Maryland

Asa Newell is leading the Georgia bulldogs in scoring and pretty much running that team.

And your take on Wright is spot on.

I’ve never seen anything like it. 5 players from one HS all so college ready at such a high level from day one. Incredible and a joy to watch.

 

[auror]

This should probably be its own thread, but I think the same but here is what I’m getting at it’s Monteverde. EVERY single Frosh this year from Monteverde plays like an upperclassman. It’s not just that their talented they are all incredibly poised

Think about it.
Cooper Flagg we know what he is. 17 years old and handling the most high profile spot of any player in any class with total poise.

Liam McNeeley is incredibly solid and poised.

Derrick Queen is the best and most stable player on Maryland

Asa Newell is leading the Georgia bulldogs in scoring and pretty much running that team.

And your take on Wright is spot on.

I’ve never seen anything like it. 5 players from one HS all so college ready at such a high level from day one. Incredible and a joy to watch.

That team was insane. In general they run that program like a college program. And they run real offense, too. I don't know if their coach Boyle would consider stepping up to college, but if a team could pick him off it would be smart. He's got a good thing going there, but they could probably 10x his salary.

 

[Scrutineer]

They had his main defender fronting him all night, a secondary defender behind him so they couldn’t throw it over the top, and sometimes even were hovering a third defender nearby too

Nebraska made the rest of Creighton beat them 4v3 or sometimes 4v2, and they weren’t able to

Smart. Just the opposite of UConn's strategy versus Purdue

Way too early KenPom rankings this morning:

Uconn (6)
St. Johns (10)
Marquette (15)
Creighton (33)
Xavier (42)
---‐-------------

Villanova (62)
Butler (73)
Providence (77)
Seton Hall (105)
Georgetown (111)
DePaul (117)

.The next month should be really interesting. Lots of high profile games with other leagues that could help the league's ratings, but we can't have teams blowing games like St. John's did with Baylor.

I believe Butler and Providence are better than Villanova and DePaul might be too so these next four weeks will tell us a lot about the league.

 

[lonsharkin51]

You never want to see anyone get injured, but, damn, it sure looked like Ashworth went way out of his way to kick his leg out and try to draw the foul. He wouldn't have come anywhere near the other player's foot if he'd just gone straight up and down. I hope he's not too injured or too upset with himself for causing the injury.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

At this point it feels like Nova and DePaul should swap rankings, who would have expected that?

Not good Nova against blah opposition vs DePaul’s wins against softest Charmin opponents. Neptune Neptuning versus versus Holtmamn’s hype history in November, then season swoons? Other than against UConn, hopefully they both surprise for overall BE SOS.

 

[donyell34]

Depaul is kicking butt right now, much improved with better players and Holtmam is a solid coach. Maybe just maybe there's a glimmer of hope.

 

[shizzle787]

Marquette, Georgetown, and DePaul won.

49-10 (6-5)

vs ACC: 3-2
vs Big 10: 2-1
vs Big 12: 0-1
vs SEC: 1-1

Bad losses: Villanova 2x, Seton Hall 2x, and Butler.