Big East OOC thread - Dec 24/25

[nelsonmuntz]

Xavier was good in the A10, a mid major, until they had to replace their coach. Butler was good in the MVC, a mid-major then moved to the A10 we’re they were ok but not as good then the NEWBE where they have been ok at best and awful at worst.

DePaul was a market add but we’re chosen because they had

Make the case for returning to the AAC. I want to see what that looks like.

 

[gsmooth]

Nah, they both made sense. DePaul b/c they had history and b/c media markets were important at the time. Butler wasn't a flash in the pan, you just probably weren't paying attention to them because you didn't cross paths much until UConn rejoined the BE. Look at their history in the last 15 years. COVID disrupted what was really a solid program that continued to perform well despite coaching turnover. They really did make sense to add.


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This is what I remember, too, was that Butler had good seasons in the BE prior to UConn rejoining in 2020. Lavall Jordan got over because it looks like he had his best team when coaching there (#5 seed) to only get fired later after some lackluster seasons afterwards. He is now on Chris Holtmann's staff in DePaul.

You know who else was good in the COVID shortened season? I mean really good with Final 4 aspirations.
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Dayton with Obi Toppin (28-2).

In the Lahaina Civic Center in Maui, on the East wall behind one of the baskets, they have big pictures of some of the star players that played really well in that tournament in the past. That includes Kemba Walker, and you guessed it, Obi Toppin.

 

[RuffRuff]

 

[RuffRuff]

Creighton next 4 out. 3 bids. I’ll take East region any way we can get.

https://twittter.com/espnlunardi/status/1870115180690190339?s=46&t=ZmRox7-IWVB7w8zPzR3q1Q

 

[Kolumbo]

I'm not sure what it means but I'll take it. At least he didn't throw puke on there. No ACC teams. I would say cuse in the past maybe but the program stinks so bad now those fans may be dwindling.

 

[REB1094]

Maybe we took different math classes at UConn, but if Xavier goes 12-8 in the Big East, they would have a 20-11 record, and if Georgetown did the same they would be 20-10.

Are we adding extra losses to Big East teams now?

That’s what I get for not using a calculator!

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Creighton next 4 out. 3 bids. I’ll take East region any way we can get.

https://twittter.com/espnlunardi/status/1870115180690190339?s=46&t=ZmRox7-IWVB7w8zPzR3q1Q

I want to see one of the Big East Haters make the case for returning to the AAC.

 

[AntG168]

The BE isn’t very good this year. But the games are gonna be so much fun. Not the usual separation 3-11.

 

[RuffRuff]

The BE isn’t very good this year. But the games are gonna be so much fun. Not the usual separation 3-11.

And when on the road not even sure there’s much separation between 1-11.

 

[RuffRuff]

StJ PC in a great one.

StJ is will be an interesting matchup for us. What they don’t do well is shoot the 3, at all. I’m surprised Pitino left such a gap there. They do have 3 guys that can put the ball on the floor, two with size. Another matchup where Jayden may get run because I can see Kadari just bullying Solo. They look like a 4 man team. Liam will have his hands full with Ruiz, the key with him is keeping him out of the lane. Can also see Tarris getting a lot of run here because I don’t think Samson has a chance with Zuby, and the StJ team can rebound. Will have to limit 2nd opportunities. If we play sound here and don’t give them easy stuff and 2nd chances we win. Need Jayden to figure out his role and contribute on offense by the time we see them by latter half of season.

 

[shizzle787]

St. John’s just got a big road win. I feel more and more confident they will be a tournament team.

 

[shizzle787]

DePaul lost.

81-37 (18-23)

5-2 vs. ACC
5-9 vs. Big 12 (Big 12 won Big12-Big East Battle 6-5)
4-5 vs. SEC
4-7 vs. Big 10

OOC records by school:

Marquette 9-2 (4-1)
St. John's 8-2 (2-2)
UConn 8-3 (2-1)
Xavier 8-3 (2-3)
Creighton 7-4 (2-3)
Butler 7-4 (3-2)
Villanova 7-4 (1-2)
DePaul 8-2 (0-2)
Georgetown 8-2 (1-2)
Providence 6-5 (1-2)
Seton Hall 5-6 (0-3)

Bad losses (current Quad 3 and 4 losses): Villanova, Butler 2x, Georgetown, Providence, Seton Hall 3x

Games remaining:

Coppin State @ Georgetown (12/28)
Loyola (MD) @ DePaul (12/28)
Delaware @ St. John's (12/28)

Must win all three cupcake games.

 

[RuffRuff]

 

[ctbro1999]

I think Creighton will climb out of the hole now that they got their Euro guy. I mean not into the top tier of the BE, but at least tourney good.

 

[auror]

I think Creighton will climb out of the hole now that they got their Euro guy. I mean not into the top tier of the BE, but at least tourney good.

I was surprised he only played 3 minutes.

 

[ctbro1999]

I was surprised he only played 3 minutes.

Probably easing him into game action? Was he able to practice with the team while his status was pending?

 

[BEFAN]

Probably easing him into game action? Was he able to practice with the team while his status was pending?

He is supposedly getting over the flu, but has been practicing with the scout team. That the starters were all playing well yesterday (happens every 3 games or so) probably contributed to his limited minutes. The key for Creighton seems to be Jamiya Neal. If he's on, Creighton's on. The hope is Zugic will fill the offensive void when Neal isn't hitting his shots. (Ashworth is the only consistent shooter right now.) We'll see soon enough. St. Johns comes to town NYE.

 

[gsmooth]

Probably easing him into game action? Was he able to practice with the team while his status was pending?

He was on the scout team for all of this time. McDermott is trying to ease Zugic's game time as he isn't in game shape.

 

[kobe]

Dayton has something 99.9% of other schools of its caliber don't have. An incredibly loyal fanbase. It seems the people of Dayton live and die by this team.

I've been in arenas during tournaments twice when they've been around. When Dayton played in the northeast regionals, they've had the most impressive fanbase by far, even when UConn, Syracuse, Villanova and Ohio State were playing. I've seen it with my own eyes, and it was impressive. They have a bunch of unique chants as well.

The city/town has a big arena that hosts NCAA regionals and they fill it. This program is impressive. The problem of course is that they are so close to Cincinnati that they may eat into Xavier's market.

xavier hates dayton and will do anything to keep them out of the church league.

the charity exhibition this year was the first time they've even played them in over 10 years since moving leagues.

complete cowardly bums if you ask me.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Amazing fanbase in a deeply rooted hoops community/alumni. Xavier down the street and a nice local rival. Catholic. As good a fit as it gets.

xavier hates dayton and will do anything to keep them out of the church league.

the charity exhibition this year was the first time they've even played them in over 10 years since moving leagues.

complete cowardly bums if you ask me.

If I’m looking for a rational non bias opinion on something concerning Xavier a Cinncy fan immediately comes to mind as a credible source .

 

[BEFAN]

xavier hates dayton and will do anything to keep them out of the church league.

the charity exhibition this year was the first time they've even played them in over 10 years since moving leagues.

complete cowardly bums if you ask me.

I think you're right. Instead, Xavier has chosen to schedule their cupcake crosstown rival. Golly, I didn't realize Cincy has only one win all-time in the Cintas Center, and that was over 20 years ago. And 16-7 overall in favor of X since that time. I think it's high time Xavier scratches the mildcats and adds Dayton to their schedule.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

xavier hates dayton and will do anything to keep them out of the church league.

the charity exhibition this year was the first time they've even played them in over 10 years since moving leagues.

complete cowardly bums if you ask me.

You are talking a lot of smack for the fan of a school that is usually the 3rd best team in the greater Cincinnati metro area.

 

[Fan1978]

I think you're right. Instead, Xavier has chosen to schedule their cupcake crosstown rival. Golly, I didn't realize Cincy has only one win all-time in the Cintas Center, and that was over 20 years ago. And 16-7 overall in favor of X since that time. I think it's high time Xavier scratches the mildcats and adds Dayton to their schedule.

Big east crappy refs on full display tonight. Yes i know i am the only one watching Georgetown at seton hall. Late first half Georgetown goes to line for 1 and 1 on 9th foul. Refs think its a 2 shot foul so becomes a jump ball back to Georgetown. Very next Georgetown possession sorber misses first free throw and seton hall rebounds and starts advancing before ref realizes its 2 shots. Can’t make this up

 

[RuffRuff]

Big east crappy refs on full display tonight. Yes i know i am the only one watching Georgetown at seton hall. Late first half Georgetown goes to line for 1 and 1 on 9th foul. Refs think its a 2 shot foul so becomes a jump ball back to Georgetown. Very next Georgetown possession sorber misses first free throw and seton hall rebounds and starts advancing before ref realizes its 2 shots. Can’t make this up

Sorber and McNeeley gonna battle for BE FOY. He’s great. Highly ranked kid at Creighton has had a few good games too.

 

[Fan1978]

Sorber and McNeeley gonna battle for BE FOY. He’s great. Highly ranked kid at Creighton has had a few good games too.

Creighton guy is a stud, with pop isaacs injured he is a starter and major player. Mcneeley still foy based on better team. By the way cooley haters, Georgetown is pretty good. and that is good for huskies