Big East OOC 2.0

[nelsonmuntz]

I am surprised that Seton Hall scored 45 points with their terrible shot selection. How many contested 25 foot pullups and 1 on 3, out-of-control drives do they need to miss before they realize those are bad shots?

 

[Chin Diesel]

Dre Davis scored 10 pts for Hall. The only player from either team in double digits.

Surely someone had 10 TO's, no?

 

[twiceahusky]

Some people will never learn that the seed isn't as important as how the team is playing.
I submit UConn 2011 and 2014 as Exhibits 1 and 2.

I submit that UConn MUST win a tournament game this year to get off the Schneid … and avoid a disastrous reputation. The easiest way is a very high seed. Nobody on this board will be happy with only one win, but many will be VERY relieved if/when we get it. 1 seeds don’t lose, so let’s hope for as close to that as possible.

Agree not as important, but seed is still VERY important.

 

[shizzle787]

How does Rutgers have a 29 NET rating?

Did...

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Georgetown is so bad you can't even find a write-up about yesterday's game against orange outside of the Ontario province.

Deep State connection?

 

[shizzle787]

Remaining OOC games:

12/12
Creighton vs. Arizona State (in Vegas)

12/13
Southern @ Xavier

12/14
DePaul @ Duquesne
Drexel @ Seton Hall

12/17
DePaul @ Northwestern
St. John's vs. Florida State (in Florida)
Villanova @ St. Joe's

 

[gampelcrazies]

Remaining OOC games:

12/12
Creighton vs. Arizona State (in Vegas)

12/13
Southern @ Xavier

12/14
DePaul @ Duquesne
Drexel @ Seton Hall

12/17
DePaul @ Northwestern
St. John's vs. Florida State (in Florida)
Villanova @ St. Joe's

Creighton needs that ASU game.

 

[storrsroars]

This has nothing to do with hoops but there' really no place to put it. I went over to ESPN to check the Hall/Rutty box score and this was the lead story:

How can you make a mistake like that? How many people are involved in posting the lead story?

 

[shizzle787]

Creighton needs that ASU game.

That game and the two DePaul games worry me. St. John's could St. John's it as well against FSU but the Jonnies should be good.

 

[storrsroars]

Surely someone had 10 TO's, no?

No, most was 5.

But Kadary had 6 steals.

 

[karstenkibbe]

Marquette beating Notre Dame at Notre Dame is only a Q3 win?

Let me remind you that the Brey-d Bunch lost to Nosepicker and his putrid University of Southern Canada squad last week. The Golden Domers stink.

 

[DFW HOYA]

Georgetown is so bad you can't even find a write-up about yesterday's game against orange outside of the Ontario province.

The Washington Post is all-in on World Cup coverage and isn't sending anyone to games right now. The other two dailies (Times, Examiner) dropped sports coverage years ago. And FWIW, the longtime AP college sports writer for the area (Joseph White) died a few years ago and the position has never been filled.

Of course, averaging an announced 4,404 a game (net of the "free tickets for everyone" opener) doesn't help either.

 

[August_West]

Creighton needs that ASU game.

If Kalk is still down it might be a tall order. ASU is quietly 9-1 and another Hurley is having a great start to season.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

If Kalk is still down it might be a tall order. ASU is quietly 9-1 and another Hurley is having a great start to season.

Creighton isn't a great defensive team with Kalkbrenner. They are bad defensively and a terrible rebounding team without him.

A road win over any semi-decent P6 really moves the needle with the NET. Marquette is 30 and Seton Hall is 89 after yesterday's two wins over mediocre opponents.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Creighton kind of sucks without Kalkbrenner. ASU is making some tough shots, but they are also killing Creighton on the boards. It is really hard to win when the other team is getting 60% of the rebounds. Kalk also forces double teams which leaves the shooters a little more open outside.

 

[gsmooth]

Damn another close tough loss to Arizona St. Danny Hurley can't beat Creighton, but Bobby Hurley has won two and row against them. This year's UConn will beat them.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

You can see McDermott crumbling this season. The second half was a clinic in bad coaching. Hurley got the T that completely flipped the script with the refs for about 8 minutes of playing time. Creighton had a 10 point lead that quickly vanished as ASU got every 50/50 call for a while. A good coach has to step in there and turn the refs around.

Then McDermott buries his young star King on the bench for Mitchell. That was just stupid. Mitchell is useless offensively and is 6'1 so he can't defend anyone, especially on a team that shoots as well as ASU. Creighton should have pounded it into King for the entire second half until King fouled out or ASU's entire frontcourt fouled out.

Finally, the team with the ball should never call timeout without 8 seconds left. Get the ball up the court as quickly as possible with the pass to force the defense into transition D, which will create shooting opportunities in the secondary break. Or run a go to play that should have been practiced 100 times by this point in the season. Don't run an ISO to Scheierman from 25 feet away.

 

[Tiamat7]

It is mind-numbing that Creighton is 6-5 with a very difficult game at Marquette on Friday.

They could still get on a roll in the Big East, but their deficiencies have been revealed. Their lack of depth is evident, and if two or more of their big guns have off nights (or are sick, injured, etc) they will have trouble winning. Nembhard and Kaluma were awful tonight.

They should still make the tournament -- a Big East record of 13-7 (plus a win or two in the tournament) should be enough, but we're talking about a team that was predicted to be elite 8 or even final four quality.

 

[REB1094]

ouch

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Half this board would have bl_wn McDermott if he asked as recently as a month ago. I was never in the camp that sees him as some modern day Red Auerbach but it seems a bit early to write Creighton off.

 

[Jay-Bone]

You can see McDermott crumbling this season. The second half was a clinic in bad coaching. Hurley got the T that completely flipped the script with the refs for about 8 minutes of playing time. Creighton had a 10 point lead that quickly vanished as ASU got every 50/50 call for a while. A good coach has to step in there and turn the refs around.

Then McDermott buries his young star King on the bench for Mitchell. That was just stupid. Mitchell is useless offensively and is 6'1 so he can't defend anyone, especially on a team that shoots as well as ASU. Creighton should have pounded it into King for the entire second half until King fouled out or ASU's entire frontcourt fouled out.

Finally, the team with the ball should never call timeout without 8 seconds left. Get the ball up the court as quickly as possible with the pass to force the defense into transition D, which will create shooting opportunities in the secondary break. Or run a go to play that should have been practiced 100 times by this point in the season. Don't run an ISO to Scheierman from 25 feet away.

I see King was 18 and 11. That is a bright surprise for them. Is he part of the answer to their non-existent bench problem?

 

[The Yakk]

Better than Rutgers

Ugly game.

RAC is a tough place to win a game, doesn't matter how bad Rutgers is in any year. Those jabroni fans are right on top of you.

Seton Hall will play better than this.

 

[Jay-Bone]

Ugly game.

RAC is a tough place to win a game, doesn't matter how bad Rutgers is in any year. Those jabroni fans are right on top of you.

Seton Hall will play better than this.

Yup, a crappy Rutgers team beat up Indiana there. Was surprised Hall was able to do what IU couldn't.

 

[shizzle787]

79-36 (20-27).

Creighton loses to Arizona State.

Not good.

 

[Umami Zen]

Creighton will be a dangerous team playing loose and with nothing to lose for the rest of the year. The key vs them is to get their starting five in early foul trouble and make them use their bench guys.

Expecting a rock fight when we play them.